Law / British married to a Polish woman and they have a son. Son's British Passport? [65]


Let us not presume, if we don't Know how the system works. My guess is that it is inline with most other EU countries.

Law / British married to a Polish woman and they have a son. Son's British Passport? [65]

Thing is we have no idea why they separated in the first place or her motivations, I would like to find out the circumstances before making a judgement.


The best interests of the child should always prevail, the parent that is best placed, or if both are in some kind of an arrangement to provide for that to happen, then that is the way it should be.


So you are a legal expert now Harry?


I can only go on on what you can, and from observing the media over similar cases in countries like Germany and Italy, most particularly Germany with every case involving a Polish mother, the case has gone against the mother.

Dear Sylvia1

I don't mean to play on your guilt as I do not know your grandchild's circumstances but if you want your child to grow up well adjusted, you should take a look at these statistics.

According to this report the UK is failing its children.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6359363.stm

CHILD WELL-BEING TABLE
1. Netherlands
2. Sweden
3. Denmark
4. Finland
5. Spain
6. Switzerland
7. Norway
8. Italy
9. Republic of Ireland
10. Belgium
11. Germany
12. Canada
13. Greece
14. Poland
15. Czech Republic
16. France
17. Portugal
18. Austria
19. Hungary
20. United States
21. United Kingdom
Source: Unicef

So ask yourself the question whose well being is really a stake here, are you keen to look out for the interests of your son or your grandson?

Who is a better carer of your grandchild your son or his wife?

Why is the relationship between your son and his wife at this stage of separation? Ask yourself honestly whose fault really is it?

Having asked yourself these questions act independently irrespective of what your son's wife or your son thinks.

It's not a good start for your grandchild and I am sure you don't want him to end up being stabbed one day just because he comes from a broken home.

So just to clarify the issue why are they separated, is infidelity involved, if yes then by whom?

I am sure as a women you will understand another women's motivation and you can judge if if she is acting from the best of intentions or not.

Law / British married to a Polish woman and they have a son. Son's British Passport? [65]


That is very bad attitude, a child needs both parents to grow up in a stable family environment. If there are proper arrangements in place, she would have no reason for taking the kid, anyway I bet the UK and Poland have agreements on these things, and besides it appears she resides in the UK in any case.


Spot on, further more a father simply cannot provide the care that a mother can, so if you want the kind to grow up mentally stable with little problems down the track i would think twice. What is more the legal system in the UK is more female friendly whilst in Poland that is not quite the case.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

Harry either it is me or you that seems to have problems with the English language.

Definition of at bay:

a. (of a person or animal) forced to turn and face attackers the dogs held the deer at bay
b. at a distance to keep a disease at bay

If English is such a struggle for you Harry, i will be happy to debate with you in Polish, how does that sound?

And yes you are right they were wrong, they did not suppose that a country not in existence for some half a millennium, would be so craven and opportunistic as to stab Poland in the back while it was occupied with other things, over a piece of territory with a predominantly Polish population. Only to roll over sever years later and be swallowed up by the Germans, it is exactly such stupidity that could have altered the course of WWII.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

That was the one i was actually looking for about the prisoners.

youtube.com/watch?v=55tquCLbQZA&feature=related

And a deserved last goodbye for the Hero who was partly responsible for making it all happen.

youtube.com/watch?v=aSHAf53Qsec

As described by presumably a BBC journalist.

youtube.com/watch?v=aSHAf53Qsec


I fear that you are trying to be to clever by half Harry, the point is that no troops could have been spared because they were mobilized in the east, and the Czech attack was unexpected.


You see Harry the difference is that they had months of planning in advance, for exactly such an eventuality. That is not to say that I blame the Brits, because frankly speaking they were simply not ready.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

Interesting how when you are on a hiding to nothing, you draw the conversation to some obscure point of contention:) Yes they were keeping the Red peril at bay, minor clashes or large clashes are pure semantics. The fact is that they anticipated a larger conflict and had to act accordingly, by placing their troops in the right area. Surely you are bright enough to realize that mobilizing an army takes months not a few days, though I fear I assume to much:)

Good on those Lads from the Cavalry putting up such spirited resistance:)

youtube.com/watch?v=nzR4mzOvSgs

And how considerate are they to their prisoners of war, they even let them pick and peel their own potatoes from the field.

youtube.com/watch?v=b6pXkpsdyuo&feature=related

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

Look at those brave chaps giving those Russkies a run for their money, and taking old Petlura under their wing as well:)

youtube.com/watch?v=uJX0MJotVyE


well obviously they must have acknowledged the validity of Poland's claim since they became Poland's allies.

I am sure that Poland was gracious enough to forgive them their previous misdemeanor:)

Especially that silly business over Brestlitovsk.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


Again a demonstration that Harry's tiny brain cell is in funk struggling to pick its direction

Because than he says:


The fact that the Ukrainians proved incapable resisting the Bolsheviks is no fault of Poland.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]


I will take your word for it Costa....

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


What, it is you and the whole thing with wildlover, so cut me some slack. Of course Harry as per usual you are putting the carriage before the horse, and conveniently forgetting the Brestlitovsk Treaty and the duplicitous role the Ukrainians played in it.

And quite conveniently you are forgetting Petlura fought along with the Poles against Bolshevism. So the division of the Ukraine was a price he needed to pay for Polish assistance, he still ended up with quite a good deal. Face it Harry your version of history comes straight from your ass.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


North yes, as for south I am sure you were joking:) Mind you given the protracted civil war after independence they could have done with the Brits staying for a little longer.

Language / Is it too late for me to learn Polish..? [65]

Michal, you talk some tremendous amount of crap, do you realize?

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

Come on moderator, we were just discussing the similarities of the Afrikaans and Dutch languages, which is pertinent to the thread concerning the dialect of the Gorale on the Polish and Slovakian side of the Tatra mountains:) It demonstrates how language differences develop or not as the case might be in the goral case over time:)

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


It is too hard for you to comprehend my dear Henrietta, Keeping Poland down was always as strategic goal of the Russians.

And yes, I would care to remember who they were fighting. They fighting for the cause of civilization against Ukrainian Bolshevism. Something you clearly would rather forget, Am I right Henrieta?

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


There was already a mobilization of Bolshevik troops on the eastern front before the Czech invasion, so Poland was not in a position to offer resistance because its troops were concentrated in the east. If they had been they would have given them one hell of a hiding:)

It is only common sense for your own citizens to participate in your own election whilst things are decided, it did not alter the existing situation in any way. The process would have been the same, there would still have been a plebiscite regardless. But the Czechs knew they were going to lose a plebiscite so they used that as a pretext for invasion, its the coal mines that they were after!

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


Hardly, it was merely the returning of a favor. The Czechs new that the land they occupied was predominately occupied by Poles, and as you say when Poland was busy keeping the red peril at bay, the Czechs seized their opportunity of stabbing Poland in the back, whilst using some pathetic excuse about Poland granting its citizens the vote. They knew perfectly well that if they waited for the plebiscite the result would go Poland's way, so they used force (pathetically dressing their troops in allied uniform) to get what they wanted on that pretext.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


I can handle the Polish occupation of Polish land, i think we already established that, or are your powers of logic still at low low ebb?

And no, Poland did not take part in the Nazi occupation, they took part in their own occupation of land with a majority Polish population. So in other words they were occupying what was theirs by right, I think every country has the right to occupy its own land.

quote=jonni]You think it's a great injustice to be on the Czech side of the border?[/quote]
Not now, but back than yes, because of the discriminatory behavior of the Czech government.

As you can see Harry the people seemed to be pleased with the event, and be fair to the Czechs they seem to be remarkably cooperative as well.

youtube.com/watch?v=q11Bo7X-F_4&feature=related

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]

Jesus Chist give up the whole Jewish thing already! If there is going be another Jewish thread on this forum, i think I will be bothered visiting anymore.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

I don't where to begin, such hysterical nonsensical tosh, you should really give up on the whole equating the Nazis with Poland, nobody believes it, at least nobody who is sensible and doesn't have an axe to grind.


The above sentence proves your weak powers of logic, you can't even follow your own logic let alone someone else's. You say that they should have not, when you clearly believe that they should since you point out the occupation of the land mentioned. And then you proceed to say that they should have held on to that land after all!

So what is it Harry, yes, No or a maybe?

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

But my dear Harry, the evidence is right before you, but before we continue you should be a little bit more honest and say that it was a TINY PART OF CZECHOSLOVAKIA, as i was saying, with the Czechs themselves agreeing I am afraid that your interpretation of these events as with most others, is neither here nor there.

By agreeing to this deal The Czechs have effectively confirmed that the Poles where right all along, and had they been a little bit more mature, this foolishness could have been avoided, and they wouldn't have had to face Hitler alone.

Besides Harry your logic as per usual fails you again, If you were to ask the people of the area, would you want to be under the administration of Poland, or a Nazi occupied Czechoslovakia, I am quite sure they would have chosen Poland seeing as it was that the vast majority of them were Polish in any case.

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

You are thanking the wrong person):

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

Just as well that they did not have a government like New Labour, otherwise they would have wanted to give away even more instead of trying to get a little extra, like Labour over Gibraltar.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


Yes you are quite right of course. What was great injustice to the Poles living in that part of the Czech Republic, is know justice to the Poles that know find themselves in Poland again:)

Being in the EU has nothing to do with it though.

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

Look at my Poland gets a little bigger thread, that is about the Czech dispute.

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

No they are not, but they are certainly not Gorale:)

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

Their latest 3rd of May celebrations, notice the followers making their way gingerly around the little surprises the horses left behind:)

youtube.com/watch?v=UrUYyHNUZXw


Take it easy he was merely describing the way Russians see things:)

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]

Gorale showing their Polish patriotism

youtube.com/watch?v=1FfBFgLMPBQ

History / Slovakian misrepresentation of Polish history [33]


LOL. Upper Hungary sounds correct.

Gorals singing for the late pope.

youtube.com/watch?v=BV1oqiZ7s8Y