jon357
27 Oct 2017
jon357
27 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
I have
The Vatican do just that.
So many religions to choose from, so many gods. And still a marriage that is dead should still be buried, and Poland fortunately still has plenty of divorces.
I have never met a Christian that got married in a Mosque a
I have
NO if you are a Christian you don't have the option to consider another sort of philosophy of legalism that contradicts the Bible.
The Vatican do just that.
Millions of unsaved people consider legalism a philosophy that trumps Gods words.
So many religions to choose from, so many gods. And still a marriage that is dead should still be buried, and Poland fortunately still has plenty of divorces.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
What argument?
What's written in a club's rulebook isn't always how it works out in reality
Millions have divorced in Poland. If a particular family's so dreary that it's a problem for them, it probably doesn't take much to alienate them.
Your argument
What argument?
What's written in a club's rulebook isn't always how it works out in reality
Millions have divorced in Poland. If a particular family's so dreary that it's a problem for them, it probably doesn't take much to alienate them.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
It was entirely genuine and valid. This is normal with Diocesan Marriage Tribunals - they just pretend it isn't.
Most rational adults are not scared by the antics of clergy. Register office weddings in Poland are very nice, as millions of divorced and remarried people can testify..
Then the marriage was not valid according to Canon Law
It was entirely genuine and valid. This is normal with Diocesan Marriage Tribunals - they just pretend it isn't.
Most rational adults are not scared by the antics of clergy. Register office weddings in Poland are very nice, as millions of divorced and remarried people can testify..
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
I doubt the head of that organisation even looks at 1% of 1% of the decisions made by his minions. The conditions, by the way, are not stringent, hence the huge numbers of Catholics who dissolve their marriages.
Again, the rather Jesuitically used word 'valid'. A friend had her (in every way valid, legal and ordinary) marriage dissolved on the grounds that she said she was too young at 22 to be fully aware of what she was getting into yet her family wanted her to marry. Fortunately she had witnesses to vouch that she'd said at the time she was unsure. This was interpreted very loosely, as it so often is.
And of course, anyone, whether a magical thinker or not, can end a marriage in court and religious groups can say whatever they like (and frequently do), but can't do a thing.
Provided that the rather stringent conditions for dissolution are met, the decision to do so belongs to the Pope alone. ....., if so, prepare the request to be sent to the Pop
I doubt the head of that organisation even looks at 1% of 1% of the decisions made by his minions. The conditions, by the way, are not stringent, hence the huge numbers of Catholics who dissolve their marriages.
Once a valid marriage has been consummated, though, even the Pope is powerless to dissolve it.
Again, the rather Jesuitically used word 'valid'. A friend had her (in every way valid, legal and ordinary) marriage dissolved on the grounds that she said she was too young at 22 to be fully aware of what she was getting into yet her family wanted her to marry. Fortunately she had witnesses to vouch that she'd said at the time she was unsure. This was interpreted very loosely, as it so often is.
And of course, anyone, whether a magical thinker or not, can end a marriage in court and religious groups can say whatever they like (and frequently do), but can't do a thing.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
The clue here, Dominic, is 'validly entered into'. This is (fortunately) interpreted very liberally, so marriages that are in every way normal are often dissolved. There's an interesting and oft-relaxed get-out clause.
The clue here, Dominic, is 'validly entered into'. This is (fortunately) interpreted very liberally, so marriages that are in every way normal are often dissolved. There's an interesting and oft-relaxed get-out clause.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / The age of consent in Poland is only 15 [147]
Agreed. It becomes an unpleasant subject when someone is talking about how much they want to abuse 12 year olds, especially when that person has already served a jail sentence for grooming one.
This whole thread is just bad and getting worse, the mods need a black permanent delete button in this instance
Agreed. It becomes an unpleasant subject when someone is talking about how much they want to abuse 12 year olds, especially when that person has already served a jail sentence for grooming one.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Travel / Gdansk Christmas markets [26]
Bitterly cold there in the winter.
I'm not sure I'd fancy Gdansk in December.
Bitterly cold there in the winter.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
Very much yes. Millions of people who were married in mosques, churches, whatever, get divorced.
Pedal your propaganda elsewhere.
Just to be clear, every RC diocese has a Diocesan Marriage Tribunal to deal with dissolving marriages. The RCC prefers anullments, however they also issue divorces - a friend (now dead) worked as a Defender of the Bond, basically a devil's advocate automatically arguing against dissolving a marriage.
The Orthodox Church has always taken a more practical view - if a marriage dies, bury it.
Not if you are a Christian and get married in the Church j
Very much yes. Millions of people who were married in mosques, churches, whatever, get divorced.
Pedal your propaganda elsewhere.
Pedal your propaganda elsewhere.
Just to be clear, the Roman Catholic Church does not permit couples married in the Church to divorce under any circumstances, period
Just to be clear, every RC diocese has a Diocesan Marriage Tribunal to deal with dissolving marriages. The RCC prefers anullments, however they also issue divorces - a friend (now dead) worked as a Defender of the Bond, basically a devil's advocate automatically arguing against dissolving a marriage.
The Orthodox Church has always taken a more practical view - if a marriage dies, bury it.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
Those millions of divorcees are free to consider any sort of philosophy they like, or not. Anyway, plenty of religions (including the predominant one in Poland) permit divorces under circumstances they feel appropriate. In theological terms, the death in 'till death us do part' can also mean the death of the marriage.
If they marry in church. The Polish civil ceremony talks about the commitment being 'trwaly' or lasting. It doesn't refer to any Scientology-style billion year contract.
the law that will count for eternity.
Those millions of divorcees are free to consider any sort of philosophy they like, or not. Anyway, plenty of religions (including the predominant one in Poland) permit divorces under circumstances they feel appropriate. In theological terms, the death in 'till death us do part' can also mean the death of the marriage.
Of course the non believers take that same vow,
If they marry in church. The Polish civil ceremony talks about the commitment being 'trwaly' or lasting. It doesn't refer to any Scientology-style billion year contract.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / How common or culturally accepted is divorce in Poland? [43]
It's quite common in Poland, is nothing new, and plenty of people are divorced. Most extended families will have members who are divorced.
Commonlaw marriages are also accepted and there are provisions in the law which give certain rights to cohabiting couples.
It's quite common in Poland, is nothing new, and plenty of people are divorced. Most extended families will have members who are divorced.
Commonlaw marriages are also accepted and there are provisions in the law which give certain rights to cohabiting couples.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
UK, Ireland / Polish career criminal gets six years for rape [43]
Absolutely.
Their criminal justice system cannot in any sense be called civilised. As bad as their so-called healthcare system.
He has the option to apply for the prisoner transfer scheme if he meets the criteria, however he'd probably find a Polish prison to be far worse than a British one, not that British ones are in any sense comfortable.
UK always had a total control over non-EU citizens- yet we cannot even do that (i.e. control them).
claims that "we will finally control our borders" are utterly idiotic
claims that "we will finally control our borders" are utterly idiotic
Absolutely.
America
Their criminal justice system cannot in any sense be called civilised. As bad as their so-called healthcare system.
I don't see why anyone convicted of a serious crime should be residing in a UK prison at a cost to the British taxpayer
He has the option to apply for the prisoner transfer scheme if he meets the criteria, however he'd probably find a Polish prison to be far worse than a British one, not that British ones are in any sense comfortable.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Love / The age of consent in Poland is only 15 [147]
It just is.
14 in Germany and Italy, 15 in France and Poland, 16 in the UK and Spain, 17 in Ireland, 18 in Malta and Turkey and 20 in Tunisia..
It's relative, and the difference between a 15 year old and a 17 year old being able to consent is one that there are different opinions on.
I look 21-24. How is that old for a 15-16 yr old?
It just is.
The age of consent in Poland is only 15
14 in Germany and Italy, 15 in France and Poland, 16 in the UK and Spain, 17 in Ireland, 18 in Malta and Turkey and 20 in Tunisia..
It's relative, and the difference between a 15 year old and a 17 year old being able to consent is one that there are different opinions on.
jon357
26 Oct 2017
Law / Unusual situation with Poland's work permit and karta pobytu / moving to another city? [3]
You need to speak to a lawyer about this. Are you from outside the EU?
You need to speak to a lawyer about this. Are you from outside the EU?
jon357
25 Oct 2017
Law / Polish Citizenship for a foreigner whose parents was born in Poland [174]
He must be really really old
17th June 1086
He must be really really old
jon357
4 Oct 2017
Language / Easy texts to practice Polish sentences/reading/vocabulary? [33]
Far too difficult for learners.
No. Koszalin Chris should look for a book where he is unfamiliar with around ten words per page. He should concentrate looking up those necessary for the text to make sense.
I started with Lord of the Rings, for example. Harry Potter is another good choice.
Far too difficult for learners.
Underline ALL the words you don't know or not completely sure of until you have about thirty words underline, then stop and look up those words in the dictionary,
No. Koszalin Chris should look for a book where he is unfamiliar with around ten words per page. He should concentrate looking up those necessary for the text to make sense.
jon357
4 Oct 2017
Work / Information about jobs for Indian students in Poland [286]
This place is quite low in the rankings. It's good for certain courses, but there are better places for MBAs in Poland. Depending on your age and work experience, here are some interesting programmes run by the Polish Academy of Sciences. Have a look at those. They're aimed at people who are working in a good career, however they're extremely flexible and there can, I think, be a distance component. I was looking at them myself a couple of years ago.
a MBA from Polish University (University of Euroregional Economy is suggested by my agent).
This place is quite low in the rankings. It's good for certain courses, but there are better places for MBAs in Poland. Depending on your age and work experience, here are some interesting programmes run by the Polish Academy of Sciences. Have a look at those. They're aimed at people who are working in a good career, however they're extremely flexible and there can, I think, be a distance component. I was looking at them myself a couple of years ago.
jon357
29 Sep 2017
Language / Are Anglophones able to detect different Polish accents? [17]
There are some that are noticeable. Poznan, Upper Silesia, and (especially) Podlasie.
certain Polish accents
There are some that are noticeable. Poznan, Upper Silesia, and (especially) Podlasie.
jon357
27 Sep 2017
Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]
It should be preserved,
We should never forget that all experts, all independent environmental agencies, all credible authorities have condemned the PiS attack on the forest..
. Bialowieza is not pristine, but it the LEAST TRANSFORMED, BEST PRESERVED of the European virgin forest, by a very long way. That is why it is valuable. I
It should be preserved,
We should never forget that all experts, all independent environmental agencies, all credible authorities have condemned the PiS attack on the forest..
jon357
25 Sep 2017
Travel / My Experience in Poland (compared to Germany) [100]
That's good news.
Craven individuals, ruled by fear rather than decency.
They have their parallels in Poland too, of course.
I think the AfD already split in half this morning.
That's good news.
the smallest sniff of power was enough to have them at each other's throats
Craven individuals, ruled by fear rather than decency.
They have their parallels in Poland too, of course.
jon357
25 Sep 2017
Travel / My Experience in Poland (compared to Germany) [100]
The current German coalition has been re-elected for yet another term. Therefore, their actions are democratic. Any political party that supports political and legal equality for all is democratic.
The current German coalition has been re-elected for yet another term. Therefore, their actions are democratic. Any political party that supports political and legal equality for all is democratic.
jon357
25 Sep 2017
Travel / My Experience in Poland (compared to Germany) [100]
Yes, it's basically disrespect to the country and its people (it doesn't work either) - it's also illegal with very good reason and a very bad idea to even try it..
Fascists. 'Ganging up' on them should be the default position of all decent people. Otherwise someone always gets hurt.
Rare that we agree.
You're not doing Polish people any favours by taking an attitude that encourages the kind of corruption one sees in Banana Republics.
Yes, it's basically disrespect to the country and its people (it doesn't work either) - it's also illegal with very good reason and a very bad idea to even try it..
ganging up on the only political party
Fascists. 'Ganging up' on them should be the default position of all decent people. Otherwise someone always gets hurt.
For me his views on Poland are just too 'sweety'. I think he is a guy with some agenda
Rare that we agree.
jon357
25 Sep 2017
Food / Herb used in Polish rosol (chicken soup)? [88]
You are allowed to be surprised ;-)
The home made ones are always better, and so easy to do. The only problem in my house is that, being delicious, they get eaten as malosolny - we don't always let them pickle for long enough. I also do British-style red cabbage, since I find the type in jars in Poland to be too mild for my taste. The secret with that is to use allspice and peppercorns, plus sweet vinegar (if you can get it).
For rosol, we rarely make that with chicken (and use both pietruszka and natka pietruszka if we do) but very often do beef rosol - it's a good base for soups.
For that rosol, I use basil, thyme and marjoram.
So there you go. The rare words are the best for catching out unschooled people.
good for you. Am I not allowed to be surprised?
You are allowed to be surprised ;-)
The home made ones are always better, and so easy to do. The only problem in my house is that, being delicious, they get eaten as malosolny - we don't always let them pickle for long enough. I also do British-style red cabbage, since I find the type in jars in Poland to be too mild for my taste. The secret with that is to use allspice and peppercorns, plus sweet vinegar (if you can get it).
For rosol, we rarely make that with chicken (and use both pietruszka and natka pietruszka if we do) but very often do beef rosol - it's a good base for soups.
For that rosol, I use basil, thyme and marjoram.
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So there you go. The rare words are the best for catching out unschooled people.
jon357
24 Sep 2017
Food / Herb used in Polish rosol (chicken soup)? [88]
Why are you surprised, kaprys? We always make our own. The bundles generally have some horesradish in. Carrefour, Makro etc also generally have some in stock when it's in season.
Google it.
I'm kind of surprised you do.
Why are you surprised, kaprys? We always make our own. The bundles generally have some horesradish in. Carrefour, Makro etc also generally have some in stock when it's in season.
Doesn't matter, no such a word in Polish.
Google it.
jon357
24 Sep 2017
News / Brutal rape by Polish man on homeless woman in Rome [50]
Are there any updates on this? Do they have a suspect?
Are there any updates on this? Do they have a suspect?
jon357
24 Sep 2017
Travel / My Experience in Poland (compared to Germany) [100]
He certainly asked a hundrd trivial questions before coming out with all this stuff.
You are right, something doesn't add up.
You come to such sweeping conclusions after ONE week in Poland? How much time have you spent in Europe? One and a half weeks?
He certainly asked a hundrd trivial questions before coming out with all this stuff.
You are right, something doesn't add up.
jon357
22 Sep 2017
Food / Herb used in Polish rosol (chicken soup)? [88]
A lot of shops have it - biedronka sell it as part of the bunches of pickle herbs.
Pretty easy round my way.
A lot of shops have it - biedronka sell it as part of the bunches of pickle herbs.
jon357
21 Sep 2017
Food / Herb used in Polish rosol (chicken soup)? [88]
Don't be daft - you're just trying to argue.
As an ingredient, Hamburg Parsley (not actually that common in Holland, however Jane Grigson does refer to it there) is only traditionally found east of a certain line. If you can get it in Britain, Spain or France at all, it's only in shops catering to diaspora communities.
It's essential for rosol z kury, and although it resembles parsnip (rare in Poland) it has a more bitter taste.
I've used it as a substitute for parsnip (parboiling it then baking it coated with flour and parmesan is nice) however there are some flavour differences.
In rosol z kury, you also find marjoram - something of a catch-all in Polish cookery, rather as sage used to be in the UK.
Don't be daft - you're just trying to argue.
As an ingredient, Hamburg Parsley (not actually that common in Holland, however Jane Grigson does refer to it there) is only traditionally found east of a certain line. If you can get it in Britain, Spain or France at all, it's only in shops catering to diaspora communities.
It's essential for rosol z kury, and although it resembles parsnip (rare in Poland) it has a more bitter taste.
I've used it as a substitute for parsnip (parboiling it then baking it coated with flour and parmesan is nice) however there are some flavour differences.
In rosol z kury, you also find marjoram - something of a catch-all in Polish cookery, rather as sage used to be in the UK.
jon357
21 Sep 2017
Food / Herb used in Polish rosol (chicken soup)? [88]
Read carefully, Dommy, the phrase
And have you tried to buy pietruszka in Western Europe?
Read carefully, Dommy, the phrase
and eastwards
And have you tried to buy pietruszka in Western Europe?
jon357
21 Sep 2017
Work / Diary of a Teacher in Poland [181]
Oooh, touchy. Nice that your account above entirely conflicts with the resume you sent me by PM, last time you were called out.
Oooh, touchy. Nice that your account above entirely conflicts with the resume you sent me by PM, last time you were called out.