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TheOther   
15 Oct 2015
Travel / I discovered Poland - a nice country [62]

And here we come to the conclusion that Poland is just different, like each country is different from each other.

Exactly. That's a good thing, although globalization seems to chip away on each country's unique character. Poland is not an isolated island and will change significantly over time. There's no way to prevent this from happening unless you want to build a wall.
TheOther   
15 Oct 2015
Travel / I discovered Poland - a nice country [62]

Apples are loaded with natural sugar.

...and pesticides. Apples, peaches and pears are the worst.

ewg.org/release/most-us-apples-coated-chemical-banned-europe-0
TheOther   
15 Oct 2015
Travel / I discovered Poland - a nice country [62]

I don't think Poland is much different from the countries like Italy, Spain or Greece

Southern Europe is a whole different world - the savoir-vivre, the culture in general, the climate ... everything. In my opinion, there's no way that you can compare these countries to Poland. I would rather compare Poland to the Czech Republic or Germany.
TheOther   
11 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

And some things the German press seem reluctant to report.

There are rumors in Germany that the police and the media were told to refrain from reporting certain refugee-related incidents like attacks on the local population, increasing numbers of rapes, fights amongst the refugees, and the like. I can only hope that these rumors are untrue, because otherwise there will be a rude awakening very soon
TheOther   
11 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

OK man.

Don't take it the wrong way, WB. I just know where you stand politically.

Hey, and I just noticed that my previous post was edited by a mod without leaving a note. What's going on here?

Note: Links unrelated to Poland / Poles / Polish matters may be deactivated by moderators. Posters should refrain from linking to content unrelated to Poland.

Mod, it was not a link you deleted. It was a comment for Dgytgjgjkykhff in which I stated that Germany was already blamed for attracting too many young people from Spain and Portugal by offering them jobs and a free education.
TheOther   
10 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

thats just media fuelled fear mongering

Unfortunately, it's not. Right wing parties have been on the rise all across the continent for quite some time now. Look at the FPO in Austria which has overwhelmingly won some local elections just recently ( reuters.com/article/2015/09/27/us-austria-election-idUSKCN0RR0ZQ20150927). The AfD in Germany has jumped to about 6% now and elections are another two years away. Plenty of time to grow like PEGIDA. Wilders in the Netherlands, the Golden Dawn in Greece, LePen in France, UKIP in Britain. You need more examples?

Care to post up some credible links to these statements?

You know a little German? There are a million sources out there.

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article7222075/Tuerken-sind-die-Sorgenkinder-der-Integration.html
taz.de/!5168897/
de/regionales/duesseldorf/article116063056/Warum-stagniert-die-Zahl-eingebuergerter-Tuerken.

Do you honestly think that the people who really know aren't at least three steps ahead of you?

I'm not into conspiracy theories, WB...

We are living within the wrong social system.

Ha ha ha. I knew you would say this.
TheOther   
10 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

Or perhaps all these "calculations" are not complete and the net flow of money goes in the opposite direction ?

Except for creating the necessary infrastructure, funds from the EU have nothing to do with business investments in Poland. Companies do business for one reason only: profit. If you think that's bad, you're living in the wrong system. ;)
TheOther   
10 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

Merkel and the EU can change this if they so wish

They are debating in Brussels until they'll drop dead. Nothing has happened yet that actually deals with the refugee crisis.

Germany would not be so welcoming to these immigrants if they weren't benefiting in a financial sense

For various reasons, the country was barely able to integrate 3 million Turks over the past 50 years. How would they possibly deal with 1.5 million refugees from the Middle East per year over the next 5 years? And I haven't even mentioned that the refugees, once accepted as asylum seekers, will want to bring their extended families as well. There might be a short-term financial benefit for the corporations, but you cannot bring in millions of people from a totally different culture over a short period of time without risking social peace. It shows already. Right-wing parties are on the rise.

Germany were recently advertising free engineering degree courses in the UK, free education and guaranteed work placement

What I said: well educated specialists are needed, not illiterate people from some hellhole in Syria, Afghanistan or Eritrea.
TheOther   
10 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

they could quite simply say no

Actually, they can't because they are - just like everybody else - bound to international law. Once a refugee is within the EU (which you cannot prevent on the long run) and claims to be an asylum seeker, you have to grant asylum no matter what. You can try to prove that they are something else, but that is a long process.

remain as one of worlds top exporters with that kind of human resource

If the refugees would be engineers, doctors and stuff, then yes, but from what I've heard the vast majority are uneducated folks that saw camel herding as a career path.

Angela Merkel invited these migrants and refugees to Germany in her "come one, come all" speech.

Very stupid of her, and she or, to be more exact, Germany and Europe will ultimately pay the price.

Did she consult anyone in Europe?

I bet the rest of Europe was more than relieved not to be consulted. You can't be so naive to believe that either Greece or Italy would've been capable to deal with such a large number of refugees. Controlling the outside borders of the EU looks good in theory. They would've been quickly overrun and the refugees would've spread across the continent completely uncontrolled, so Germay's offer was more like a valve releasing pressure. But of course, Germany has to deal with the same crap in Europe that the USA has to deal with on a global scale: damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And here you are bashing Poland

BS. I said "Poland needs to get much more involved in creating a strategy on how to solve the refugee crisis" . How is that bashing? Poland always has the ambition to play in the same league as the big guys. Here's her chance.
TheOther   
9 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

This is going to create a huuuuuuge amount of instability in a country next to Poland and should concern people a lot more than it does.

Absolutely, and it will affect Poland directly because the country's economy will tank once Germany is in deep doodoo. In my opinion, Poland needs to get much more involved in creating a strategy on how to solve the refugee crisis. ASAP, to be exact. This endless debating in Brussels will lead to chaos if it doesn't stop and they get their act together.
TheOther   
9 Oct 2015
News / Polish people's criticism of European Union [104]

I don't understand why the other 27 EU countries should be involved. Merkel and more generally Germany have made a huge mistake so it's their problem now.

How about Merkel saved the sorry ass.es of the other EU countries so that they didn't have to take in any significant number of refugees? If the Germans have to accomodate 1.5 million arrivals a year as it looks now, the country will collapse at some point in time. Should that happen, the rest of Europe can kiss their economies goodbye and prepare themselves for some big time civil unrest.

Some people here seem to believe that 'European Union' means to leech off the system but don't give back in return. Exactly the attitude that will ultimately destroy the union. Where will that leave Poland?
TheOther   
6 Oct 2015
News / Polish priest sacked by Vatican for being openly gay [54]

The Jehovah Witnesses think so as do the American southland's Baptist bible-thumpers.

So depending on whom I ask, it's either humans or God that were responsible for the Holocaust? If I recall correctly, there are Jewish circles which actually interpret the Holocaust as God's punishment for sin.
TheOther   
5 Oct 2015
Genealogy / Leon Trozer. Looking for Polish family in Poland. [10]

Have you tried the LDS databases already? There are tons of Trozer on there; from the UK and the US, but also from Germany.

familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3ATrozer

Heindrick

That's most likely 'Heinrich'.
TheOther   
5 Oct 2015
News / Polish priest sacked by Vatican for being openly gay [54]

God was not responsible for the Holocaust or the Crusades

Interesting theological question. I just looked up the explanation for the Flood on a Christian web site:

"And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. (Genesis 6:11-13)"

Why not a flood for the violence, death and destruction caused by the crusaders, the Nazis, Stalin, ... ? Not evil enough?
TheOther   
4 Oct 2015
USA, Canada / American Polonia. Wisconsin - the most Polish state? [112]

I believe that some censuses include a self-declaration of ethnicity. The 2000 one certainly did.

Where? All I can find is a question about the place of birth where you can print the name of the foreign country, if applicable. Nothing about ethnicity and/or heritage. Do you think that the Polish population of the cities listed above were actually Poles born in Poland?

census.gov/dmd/www/2000quest.html
TheOther   
27 Sep 2015
USA, Canada / Do many Polish people in America hate Americans? [592]

I guess you have never been with a clean sweet smelling college girl from the U.S have you.

Things have changed since the 1970's, JR ... :)


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TheOther   
25 Sep 2015
Genealogy / Genealogy - Cecylia Lisinska Family, Szczutowo, Poland [9]

Okay, that village was part of the German Empire until 1918 - Landkreis Strasburg, Regierungsbezirk Marienwerder, to be exact. Since your grandmother was born in 1882, there's a good chance that the civil registration record for her birth has survived the war. On that record, the birth dates of the parents are usually also given. If not, there is still a very good chance to find the civil registration record for their marriage in the archives. Just start looking about 1 year prior to the birth of the first child, and then move forward in time.

Many of the West Prussian records are now either in the Landesarchiv Berlin ( landesarchiv-berlin.de/lab-neu/home.htm) or in the Polish state archive that is in charge. Not sure which one that is in this case; either Toruń (torun.ap.gov.pl/en/index.php?show=zasob) or Bydgoszcz ( bydgoszcz.ap.gov.pl).

Good luck.
TheOther   
25 Sep 2015
Genealogy / Genealogy - Cecylia Lisinska Family, Szczutowo, Poland [9]

There are three villages with that name within a 20 mile radius - one in woj. mazowieckie, and two in woj. kujawsko-pomorskie. Which one is it?

mapa.szukacz.pl/
(enter Szczutowo into the "Miejscowość" field on the right)
TheOther   
17 Sep 2015
News / Pole-basher Gross up to old tricks [284]

I might add at this point that more than half of all Holocaust survivors never saw as much as a penny in compensation aka restitution!

Where did you get that number from? I couldn't find anything on Google, except for people scamming the Jewish Claims Conference:

content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2031278,00.html
TheOther   
14 Sep 2015
News / Why no reprivatisation in Poland? Holocaust-era property ownership. [119]

...a declaration of war instigated by German aka Nazi aggression

Why did they feel the urge to meddle in Central Europe in the first place? Fight for freedom and democracy? Protect our way of living? You believe that? LMAO! It was never about Poland, because then they would've been obliged to declare war on the USSR, too. No, France and Britain were only worried that Nazi Germany would once again become a global competitor just like the German Empire had been a few years earlier. WW2 was not about democracy, but all about military power and global influence. Thank goodness that the Nazis were defeated, but it's also good that the Brits and French lost their empires after the war. Their meddling around the globe in the past is one of the main reasons for so many conflicts of today.
TheOther   
14 Sep 2015
News / Why no reprivatisation in Poland? Holocaust-era property ownership. [119]

Everybody, please stick to the topic about post-war Holocaust-era property ownership in Poland

Mod, the above was only a reaction to Lyzko's absurd argument, that Germany should cover the cost for property that was confiscated and/or nationalized after the war because they attacked the USSR and lost. The Jewish organizations could as well ask Russia for restitution because the USSR invaded in 1939, too, or France and the UK because they were the ones which "officially" started WW2 by declaring war on Germany. The latter two arguments are equally absurd, but show the principle.

No Nazis, thus, no Holocaust, ergo no Communist Party takevover, hence no issue at all of returning "stolen" property to its rightful owner

Flawed logic. You could as well say, no declaration of war by the UK and France, no WW2, no Holocaust.
TheOther   
14 Sep 2015
News / Why no reprivatisation in Poland? Holocaust-era property ownership. [119]

Hitler declared war on Europe

Get your facts straight, Lyzko. He annexed the Sudentenland and invaded Czechoslovakia after the weak Brits and French caved in at the Munich conference. When Germany and the USSR attacked Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany - not the other way round. Hitler wasn't interested in an armed conflict with the Brits.

.. then into France, Norway, Denmark and the list keeps growing

A direct result of the declaration of war by the Brits and French, and by the way: the Brits would've invaded neutral Norway (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_R_4) if the Germans hadn't been faster. Know your history?

What were the to-be Allies supposed to do, for pity's sake?

Don't know. Let the Germans and Russians go at each other's throat after they had carved up Poland? Fight the Nazis when they would actually attack Britain or France? Some Poles on here have even argued that a pact with Hitler would've been much better for the country than the "helping hand" of Britain and France during and immediately after the war. Your pick.

Everybody, please stick to the topic about post-war Holocaust-era property ownership in Poland
TheOther   
12 Sep 2015
News / Why no reprivatisation in Poland? Holocaust-era property ownership. [119]

Yet, who put the Soviets in the uncompromising position of being enemies of the West in the first place?

By that logic, the UK and France would have to pay. They declared war on Germany, and not the other way around. Our Jewish friends should talk to the Frenchies and Poms then, don't you think? Especially since the Holocaust most likely wouldn't have happened the way it did, would France and Britain have refrained from meddling in Central Europe. Some sarcasm involved...
TheOther   
12 Sep 2015
News / Why no reprivatisation in Poland? Holocaust-era property ownership. [119]

Poland, Austria, Germany, even little Switzerland, each bear at least part of the brunt.

How would Austria, Germany or Switzerland be responsible for the actions of the Polish/Soviet government right after the war? They had no say whatsoever. If real estate was nationalized instead of being returned to the original Jewish owners or their heirs, it is the legal responsibility of Poland to pay restitution.