Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

@ Vlad:

Sorry, but you've got it all wrong. The films are by Jerzy Hoffman, the most pro-Ukrainian film director in Poland. His wife is Ukrainian, by the way. In With Fire and Sward, Hoffman portrays Polish lords savagely raping Ukraine. The film was very well received in Ukraine. In Battle of Warsaw 1920, he's anti-bolshevik, not anti-Russian. He also made Ukraine - The Birth of a Nation in 2008, a long and well-researched documentary based on Kuchma's book Ukraine is not Russia.

In the link "Polish radio hosts fired after insulting Ukrainian women" the point is he got fired. Insulting immigrants is common in Europe. Poles are constantly insultet by anti-immigration British press and no one gets fired. What else is new?

There are probably as many videos of Polish drunkards as Russian drunkards on youtube. Etc. Etc.


I think you're wrong, but not completely wrong. Ukraine is key to Putin's imperial ambitions. He can't rebuild the Russian Empire without Ukraine. However, Ukraine's constant problem is its inability to create a strong state. Historically, the coutry was a playground of stronger powers: Russia, Turkey, Poland. After gaining independence, Ukraine remains a weak state for two reasons. Economically, it's 3 times as poor as Russia and Poland and so it lacks economic influence. While Poland and Russia have political traditions of clearly defined national interests with which the political classes and the people can agree on Ukraine lacks such tradition and its politicians and the people still can't work out what Ukraine's interests are. Are they in the West, in the East or in between and how? I'm afraid nothing will change in Ukraine soon because Ukrainians are divided along cultural and political lines and they don't know what they want as one nation.

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

I read Polish newspapers and I watch Polish films and I have never encountered anything of this sort. Any examples? Poles don't like Russia as a state, but have nothing against Russians. The only problem that Poles have with Ukraine is Ukrainian nationalism of the Bandera sort and that's it.


I have never met a Pole claiming that Polish people are Germanics. It's absurd. Don't base your opinions on some comments by trolls on this or other forums. Most commentators here are not Polish. Not that it matters because some trolls here are Polish, and some foreigners who live in Poland and comment here have pretty good understanding of Poles and Poland.


Poland is the best friend Ukraine has got in Europe today. It's in Polish geopolitical interest that Ukraine is a democratic and sovereign country as close to the European Union as possible. Ukraine back in Russian hands is a Polish nightmare.

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]


I agree. Genetic research is useful in explaining migrations in prehistory. Today, genetic closeness of nations is meaningless. There are no pure races or ethnic groups in Europe or Americas. To whom are Americans genetically close? As a nation of immigrants - to everyone.

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]


The link stopped working. Sorry. How about Pan Tadeusz by Mickiewicz, the best known book in Polish:

Litwo! Ojczyzno moja! ty jesteś jak zdrowie.
Ile cię trzeba cenić, ten tylko się dowie,
Kto cię stracił. Dziś piękność twą w całej ozdobie
Widzę i opisuję, bo tęsknię po tobie.

Литва! О родина! Ты — как здоровье. Тот
Тебя воистину оценит и поймет,
Кто потерял тебя. Теперь живописую
Тебя во всей красе, затем, что я тоскую.

Isn't it more than 60% similar. 70%?

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]


Poles are not close to Italians, but are close to Hungarians and even Austrians. This is because Hungarians and Austrians are to a large degree magyarized and germanized Slavs.

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]


Maybe. Maybe I'm biased because I studied Russian in school. I can no longer speak it, but I can read Russian newspapers without much difficulty. I gave you a link to a text in Polish. Can you read it?

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]


Don't have scientific sources at hand to answer you. But the differences among Poles are not as great as between south and north Russians. Poles are pretty much mixed up. But because of ethnic cleansing one may guess that western Poles (originally from eastern Poland) are the closest to south Russians. North-east Poles are closer to Balts (extinct Old Prussians). North Poles are closer to Scandinavians, Germans, Dutch, Scots. Incidentally, neolithic Swedes were closer to present day Poles than to present day Swedes. Vikings were latecomers to Scandinavia, just as Russians were latecomers to North Russia.

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

@ Vlad:

-->Which Polish towns/villages those students are from and why did they choose to study in Ukraine?
Does Poland even recognize Ukrainian diplomas?

Ukrainian diplomas are recognized by Poland and vice versa by governmental agreements. 600 Poles study in Lviv alone. Main reason: money, nice city and people. 6000 Ukrainians study in Poland and their number tripled in the last few years. Quarter of all foreign students in Poland are from Ukraine. Source:

..w.edukacjawpolsce.pl/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=arti cle&sid=604

As to similarities and differences between Russians and Poles, I'd put them this way:

1. Genetically, Poles and especially south Russians are very close, almost identical. North Russians are more Finnic.
2. Linguistically, Polish and Russian languages are very close. If you wrote Russian in Polish alphabet, most Poles would understand it easily (say 80% of it) without prior knowledge of Russian. However, a Pole who never studied Russian would likely not understand spoken Russian easily because of different melody, accents, etc.

3. The biggest differences are cultural (Rome versus Bizantium thing) and political (Polish democracy and distrast of all governmental powers versus Russian permanent experience of absolutist, totalitarian and authoritarian regimes only.

UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]

Since you know the answer, why do you ask the question?

Language / Mushroom: pieczarka vs grzyb [24]

Zupa pieczarkowa is usually made from cultivated agaricus mushrooms. Zupa grzybowa is usually made from wild mushrooms. Every pieczarkowa is grzybowa, but not every grzybowa is pieczarkowa.

UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]

Brits are brainy, but not as brainy as the Poles, according to Professor Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster.

Average adult IQ in Europe:

1. Germany and the Netherlands: 107
2. Poland: 106
3. Sweden: 104
4. Italy: 102
5. Austria and Switzerland: 101
6. Britain: 100
...France and Romania: 94
...Serbia (lowest): 89

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brain y.html

Lynn published his research in 2006 and didn't take into account a large influx of Poles to Britain. The question is: has the influx od brainy Poles improved the British IQ score or not?