Life / What do decent Poles think about true rightists ? [148]

What do decent Poles think about true rightists?

Decent Poles are true rightists and true rightists are decent Poles.

I've got a better question for you, @pawian: does spam-posting insinuations instead of real questions brings any quality to a discussion table? Or maybe your feeble mind was captivated by a Karl Marx's notion that "quantity is transformed into quality"? :-)

History / Why is Poland weaker than Russia? [390]


I would disagree. When Hitler's army entered the USRR they've encountered offensive Russian forces who were unable to defend themselves effectively (different equipment is needed for defense than for offensive manouvers).

Germans have also captured a lot of abandoned tanks and destroyed plenty of planes which were sitting on field airports up to 20-30 kilometres next to the border. Stalin was planning an invasion and Hitler stabbed him in the back (just before Stalin could do the same)

Life / Want help! Need to buy English novels but can't seem to find any good ones [8]

@Sarah, you can get those on Kindle. I like classic English literature and I have Kidnapped and Katriona by R.L.Stevenson, Robinson Cruzoe by William Defoe and Merry Adventures of Robin Hood by Howard Pyle in both Polish and English.

History / Why is Poland weaker than Russia? [390]

If he won Germany would now, instead of brainwashing other EU members with neo-marxism dressed as "tolerance", teach in schools about 'ubermensh' and live of slavery of other Europeans nations.

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]


True. In the years 1939-45 it was a General Government/Generalgouvernement that is Polish lands occupied by German army and under German administration. And the remaining parts of pre-war Poland were directly absorbed by the IIIrd Reich.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

@BratwurstBoy, you've done you're research.

Er hat ein gutes sitzfleisch


Both of those statements compliment each other and are built upon your consecutive answers to my further questions.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


I'm asking you politely whether it is a symmetrical initiative or just a one sided homage?

If it is symmetrical, that's good, and you would have no problem providing photos of Israelis celebrating Polish culture in Israel.

No more dodging, let's see some concrete :-)

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


There's an English saying which goes "a word is enough to the wise". So if it wasn't understood the first time there no need to repeat it...


PolishForums is a training ground for both: Stoicism and Socratic dialectics :-)

If you operate on a logical level, some members can give you a headache, though. Almost like arguing with your better half :-P

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


Argumentum ad hominem will take you nowhere [with me] and it only weakens your other arguments.


I like to uncover a true essence of disputed matters. In this case a basic concept and goals of such student exchanges. And I have to tell you that you have not convinced me so far :-)

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


Since when asking honest questions is about creating problems? I thought the we've put that era behind us :-)


So this Cracow's school has Hebrew class yet they communicate in English with Israeli students? I would assume that they would speak Hebrew together. And by the same logic when Polish student's go for exchange to Israel Israeli students would speak Polish with them. Am I mistaken?

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


So I understand that this is only about numbers [and statistics] and not exchanging values and experiences between students since they don't learn the language of the other group?

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


It is very important. One cannot call it an exchange if it is one sided [asymmetrical].

Like in that communist era joke about Polish-USSR economic exchange:

"We're giving them meat and for exchange they also take potatoes from us"

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

@Pawian, the question here is: are there language schools in Israel which teaches Polish language or it this exchange purely asymmetrical?

History / Why is Poland weaker than Russia? [390]


Of course it is. Modern Russia may not be fully capitalist but it's not communist either. And Russia spend "only" 4.5-5% of its GDP on military as compared to 25% in the 80's.


True. Abortion should be called by its real name: a murder of an innocent human being.


After WWII they had an aid in form of skilled German engineers and their inventions and prototypes. The US has also benefited from it, but USSR more since their starting point was much lower.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


German Nazis have proclaimed many nonsense things. Since when are they mentors to you, @BratwurstBoy? ;-)

History / Why is Poland weaker than Russia? [390]


To be honest, Lenin wasn't any better than Stalin. He may not have killed as many people as Stalin but his ideas and administrative decisions lead to the deaths of millions. He started the Red Terror. Stalinism was only a logical extension of Leninism.

I imagine that if Lenin didn't die on syphilis in 1924 and ruled a little longer he would match Stalin's "achievements".

@Rich, the fact that Gagarin flew to space didn't improved lives of common Russians who lived in the same state of misery as 100 years ago. And millions of them who ended up in Gulags were even worse off.

In the 80's military spending of the USSR has reached 25% of their GDP which eventually lead to economic collapse. People were starving yet they had thousands of tanks and howitzers to be proud of. Communism had never ever worked in any country.

History / Why is Poland weaker than Russia? [390]

Well, Poland have survived Teuton Knights, Turks, Swedes, Russians, Bolsheviks, Germans, Bolsheviks again and it is now surviving the EU neo-marxism :-)


I like regular Russians but the same cannot be said about homo sovieticus. Russians should go back to their roots, religion and traditions instead of constantly remembering the USSR "glory". There was nothing great about it.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]


It was on the offer and the offer was refused. The most famous failed attempt was forming Goralenvolk SS division but the recruits have deserted. The whole idea was abandoned as impossible by Germans.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

Lyzko, let us not forget that there were also Jews who turned other Jews in. Read about "Żagiew"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBagiew


There's a primary school in my hometown named after him

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]


They would expect that from Poland, yet they are not eager at all to admit that Jews also weren't all angels during WWII either.

I think Poland wouldn't oppose the idea of having a press conference with Israel on which both heads of the state - Israeli and Polish - would admit that:

"yes, there were some Poles and some Jews who did immoral things during WWII but we also have to remember that the most of them behave morally and many of them heroically in face of death. And also let's not forget that the whole territory was occupied by German forces which were the perpetrators of the holocaust"

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

Never say never. Building an anti-Iranian (or rather pro-war) coalition may take some sacrifices. Israel may as well learn some humility in the process.

Yet hearing the apologies from Israeli officials and then not joining the pro-war coalition by Poland would be priceless.

After such move Poland would be slandered in Jerusalem Post and New York Times every single week for another decade or so :-P

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

If Poles were anti-semitic, would they...save hundreds of newborns?

aleteia.org/2017/03/15/midwife-from-auschwitz-the-woman-who-saved-hundreds-of-newborns/

Feedback / Will this forum be available in Europe if Article 13 passes? [30]


Negative or not, it raise the awareness of an issue and it had to be processed in the Parliament. And only after that process it can finally be rejected [or accepted].

And a 100k signature threshold guarantee that it won't produce legislative spam.

Sure, some of them will be successful and some of them will not. But there's a way for citizens to mobilize and to change and improve the law.


There are non governmental organisations, like Ordo Iuris, which provide professional legal advice for citizens.

Feedback / Will this forum be available in Europe if Article 13 passes? [30]

I can see there are 15 of them on the list for the years 2012-2019

orka.sejm.gov.pl/proc8.nsf/0/0F0AF1FC671F7BC8C1257F180052F244?Open

Feedback / Will this forum be available in Europe if Article 13 passes? [30]


Well, politicians have the right and the power to write the law. In Poland Sejm is the Executive Power and Senate is a Legislative Power.

In Poland also regular citizens have power to write the law. It is called Obywatelska inicjatywa ustawodawcza. To propose a new law you'll need to gather up a team of smart and determined people, write the statute down, and get 100k signatures from adult Poles with voting rights. The parliament will have to take it into consideration, debate over it and either accept it or reject in the process.

If the most of law is written by legal teams it is only because there's so many, often contradicting laws, that you need a huge team of qualified people to dig through it and write something which will make a remote sense. In the EU there a big problem with mass production of glitchy, irrelevant, overly complex law. In Poland it is called a "legislative diarrhea".

Feedback / Will this forum be available in Europe if Article 13 passes? [30]


@Atch, Semi-democratically to be precise. It was written by the EU bureaucrats and submitted to MEP's to accept [or reject] it. It didn't come from citizens dying for an internet censorship and not even from MEP's themselves.

And I have a feeling that if it gets rejected it will be bypassed like a Lisbon treaty referendum in Ireland.

Feedback / Will this forum be available in Europe if Article 13 passes? [30]


In Poland there was an underground publishing even during a hard times of martial law in the early 80's. And in the era of the internet there's no way to stop Poles from sharing their even the most radical views.

Most Poles would do it in spite of an oppressive article 13 exactly just because some bureaucrat have decided to limit our liberties. Poles loves free speech and hate censorship in any form, including self-censorship.

So I imagine that what would happen is that for each single banned forum there would be few new created in its place straight away. Just like with PirateBay proxies.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

Actually, German Catholics were the ones who didn't vote for Hitler and NSDAP. German protestants have elected him to power.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

Goering has famously said (repeated after Karl Lueger actually):

"Only I will decide who is a Jew!" when asked why is he socialising with Jews.

I general, the whole crest of Nazi party was an motley crew of people who pretended to be something which they were clearly not. And a few Nazi poster boys for propaganda reasons.

Judging by the appearance - by Nazi race standards - would you call a person like Joseph Goebbels an ubermensch, or even an arian? By those standard he could barely be classified as European! :-) And how about Adolf Eichmann, the major organizer of holocaust?

It's funny how Germans believed it. And it's even funnier that some people still believe it! There are dozens of neo-nazi marches in present day Germany. This whole "nazi" idea seems to be very attractive to weak minded individuals.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


That's why I've mentioned that it has links to sources. Stop acting like one of conditioned Pavlov's dogs and take your time to learn something first before you comment.

First use your brain and then open your mouth - not the other way around.

Do you want to be a dilettante your entire life?