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pip   
8 Feb 2013
Love / Annoying sister-in-law of my Polish hubby [30]

I feel sorry for you... didn't you know about this behave of your husband when you met him (defending his family over you),

It is not something that comes up in conversation. The thing is---from my experience, my husband was worried about hurting his mothers feelings. Most times, Polish men are quite oblivious to what is actually going on. This is not the first time I have heard a story like this. In my own situation- my husband was able to ignore the snide comments for something like 10 years. My mother in law learned her behaviour from her mother. I was the first person to stand up to her and it was over how I was raising my children, because as everybody in Poland knows, the mother in law knows everything and is the best at raising children....of course, it doesn't matter that her oldest son was on his second marriage and was still cheating.

Anyway, you have the right to say to your husband that until he sorts out this mess you will not visit his side of the family, nor are they welcome in your home.

This is learned behaviour- they have watched it go on in their own families so they think it is acceptable.
pip   
8 Feb 2013
Love / Annoying sister-in-law of my Polish hubby [30]

choose between you and his family? You are setting yourself up for failure. What you actually need to do is explain to him, because this is his responsibility, not yours, that he needs to lay down the law with his family- and it goes something like this.....

"This is my wife that you treat like garbage. I have chosen her to be my wife/partner/girlfriend, and my treating her like garbage you are insulting me and ultimately giving me a slap in the face. If you cannot control your behaviour with regards to my wife, then you are not welcome in my home. I will not stand by and watch you insult and hurt the woman I love.

What goes on between me and her is none of your business and it is not your right to impose your values/beliefs/opinions/suggestions unless they are otherwise asked.

I am sure you do not like it when somebody questions your relationships, so please don't do it to mine."

Polish men need to stand up to their families. I have lived this situation--the only difference was that my battle was with my mother-in-law. It is not up to you to set the rules, it is up to your husband. Once the family sees that your husband supports you then the ********* in law will retreat. But it should be done by him. Tell him to take his panties off and stand up to his family.
pip   
3 Feb 2013
Life / Problems with Cyfrowy Polsat provider? [2]

we used to have polsat cyfrowy. you can cancel the agreement if you give them 30 days warning I think....my husband dealt with them - they are exactly how you described. so we cancelled them and got something better. nitro net. 99 pln per month no limit.

anyway, funny thing, a month after we cancelled we were getting loads of phone calls to come back for cheaper and less downloading limits.--we refused. they are not worth the hassle.

pretty much anywhere in the world will not let you cancel straight away. 30 days notice was not outrageous.
pip   
2 Feb 2013
Life / Foreigners in Poland - the identities of our native or the host country [66]

Grzegorz_: You people have serious issues

It is not possible for Poland to pull themselves out from the effects of communism without help. After the wall fell all the thieves and liars of the communist gov't managed to make bag loads of money. see orlen, bakoma, agora.

Besides, typically Poles that set up shops abroad usually set up for the Polish community. example- Polish hair salons, deli's, book stores.....etc etc...--they don't really help the U.K.
pip   
2 Feb 2013
Real Estate / Astounded by the poor value of residential property here in Wroclaw [92]

Many years ago there was a similar situation with commercial rental space . But today this market is expanding with such a force that the new office buildings in Warsaw for example are constructed with unprecedented progress on the world scale.

This is the newest project in the financial district in Warsaw

a lawyer, a doctor and now a specialist in commercial real estate. my husband should hire you as an advisor.

cushwake.com/cwglobal/jsp/newsDetail.jsp?Language=EN&repId=c57500002p&Country=1900176
online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444025204577547011736192638.html
pip   
1 Feb 2013
Work / I'M SO SURPRISED BY THIS SALARY FOR IBM in WROCLAW 3000 ZL gross [135]

Grzegorz_: TOTALLY, as I said in another thread, you people should get out more often.
There's got to be a reason why you're so mean to people. Were you not given a hug as a child?

It is ok, I don't mind.

But the numbers don't add up. Perhaps Warsaw is a vacuum city. I do know the starting salary for the office and support staff in my husbands office is 4500 pln netto per month.

Who is buying the millions of cars on the roads? There are expensive cars in Poland. These are not all company cars. Who is shopping? Who is buying houses and apartments? Who are taking holidays to the south?

The picture painted here is that Poland is very dire and everybody is poor.. and it is complete b.s. There are poor here, like there are in every country but some on this board, and we all know who they are, describe Poland as if it is a third world country and it is not accurate. English teachers do not make a lot of money, I used to work in one in Warsaw in the late 90's, so I have a pretty good idea of the salary. And perhaps these people paint the saddest picture of Poland because they are worried about their job? Don't know. But I think I have a pretty good understanding of how this country works and how much money people make. Maybe my guess of 6,000 pln per month is off by a few thousand but - it doesn't make sense that the citizens here are buying like it is the end of the world if they don't have the money. And please don't say loans and credit- because that is not accurate either.
pip   
29 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

Pip, you don't understand one basic thing: if someone repeats a thing a thousand times, this becomes a sacred true. If someone says there is a bubble a thousand times, that buble exists and that is all there is to it !!!

I think I have to stay away from this thread because I end up banging my head against a brick wall.
pip   
29 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

pip: saying that Poland is not set to show real signs of major slow down until 2035
hahahahahahahahahaahahahahhaahahahah
pip: What are pre boom prices considered to be?
before the bubble lol

and this is probably why you don't any property while a few of us here own a few. Keep going, you are having great success.
pip   
29 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

I doubt that. However, a study just came out, I think it is Price Waterhouse, I could be wrong though, saying that Poland is not set to show real signs of major slow down until 2035. Of course, there is no way of ever knowing this is true until we reach that year- there will be highs and lows along the way.

What are pre boom prices considered to be?
pip   
29 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

pip
the graph on the link below, that's not a bubble?

House prices in Warsaw are down by 13.1%
In Cracow, house prices are down by 17.9%
In Poznan, house prices have fallen by 28%
In Gdańsk, house prices plunged by 27%
In Lodz, property prices plummeted by 35.7%

I wouldn't say these numbers from this article are showing that there is a bubble.
pip   
28 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

Definition of 'Housing Bubble'
A run-up in housing prices fueled by demand, speculation and the belief that recent history is an infallible forecast of the future. Housing bubbles usually start with an increase in demand (a shift to the right in the demand curve), in the face of limited supply which takes a relatively long period of time to replenish and increase. Speculators enter the market, believing that profits can be made through short-term buying and selling. This further drives demand.

At some point, demand decreases (a shift to the left in the demand curve), or stagnates at the same time supply increases, resulting in a sharp drop in prices - and the bubble bursts.

Read more: investopedia.com/terms/h/housing_bubble.asp#ixzz2JJFEdr7F
pip   
26 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

the resales are going for 8,000 to 12,000 pln m2. I am not exactly sure of the new ones, but my husband thinks around 2,5 pln for the smallest model. I think they would offer a good income for expats who want to be in that community. I didn't like the elitist vibes they give off but the houses are pretty nice. No basements though.
pip   
26 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

an exclusive building or Osiedle, number 2- high end Car. Number 3 - foreign holidays. Number 4 - Children private school.

I would expect in the UK it would be first house and then education. Poles are still very showy and wear it on their sleeves, this will change in the future- they need a good recession to recreate value.

so true. Poland is experiencing the mass consumerism that happened in the rest of the world in the 80's. I often get into conversations with some of my husbands friends who feel the need to drive the biggest most gas consuming cars and have name brand everything. Their logic is that they have never had it before so now it is Poland's turn.

In my opinion it is so hedonistic and the desire for all the "stuff" never ends. We have a nice house and our kids go to a good school- this is what is important in my little world. All the other stuff doesn't matter to us. We don't drive big fancy cars and our holidays are spent with friends and family, not getting drunk on a beach in Turkey with other Poles. Most of our income goes into savings....which I know doesn't happen here.
pip   
26 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

I would never live in Konstancja!! but you are right about the look. Konstancja has dropped their prices considerably--they were even offering a free mini cooper at one point.
pip   
26 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

Oops. I am sorry. I am changing the picture of the osiedle/housing estate then:

which means what exactly? It doesn't look like that either. We are next to farm land.
Besides, how many Poles would love to live in an area that looked like that as opposed to what they live in now?
pip   
26 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

But is it liquid Pip could you sell it for more than you paid for it, have any of your neighbors sold the same house as yours in the last two years.

I live in a new osiedle, the houses have only just been bought.

Pawian, I live in an osiedle that is in an area of Warsaw that has a limit of new construction. We also have a new road, new bike path, new greenery and are always the first to have our lawns mowed and snow plowed. We did our homework and figured out which place would be ideal to buy in Warsaw.

Oh boy, if I had a pound for every time I've heard that! :o) The people in the US who saw prices plummet, ditto places in Eire when I was there in 2007, they all said that too.

Poland is not the same thing. All of these places had existing houses to fall back on- the safety net in Poland was a ***** h*le communist block, Poles do not want to go back on that. Families living in cramped quarters but yet owned their flats outright were able to help younger family members who were first time buyers.

Some of us here get it and many don't. That is ok. But I wouldn't take any real estate advice on those claiming there is a bubble.
pip   
25 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

we bought our current house in 2010, my husband busted his arse trying to get a discount but the builders would not give us one. The prices in our osiedle have not dropped ever.
pip   
25 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

I am well aware of the dot.com phenom. My city in Canada used to house the head offices of all major dot.com corp's until the market crashed. This is not the same thing. Dot.com was a concept and an idea. It was nothing that we could touch. feel, smell or taste. People made millions on the idea of an idea that never panned out.

Real estate is something that we can see. It is not an ideal comparison.

Sorry, but the way people are using the definition of a property bubble is entirely wrong, it may seem trivial but it isn't. It is huge.
pip   
25 Jan 2013
Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

weg why dont you learn how to post without insulting people.

It isn't possible and I think it makes him feel as though his inaccuracies are correct, which in fact they are not. But that is ok--just don't take any real estate advice from him. Because it is wrong.