Palivec
11 Jul 2012
History / In WW2 Poland who was eligible to sign the Volksliste ? [48]
Google for "Schutzangehöriger" and you have your answer.
Google for "Schutzangehöriger" and you have your answer.
Palivec
11 Jul 2012
Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]
On SSC is a nice thread about the urban chaos in Poland: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=131333
Or "individualism" in architecture: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=967926
If you've seen the examples there I'm sure you would prefer a few more rules and less individualism too...
On SSC is a nice thread about the urban chaos in Poland: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=131333
Or "individualism" in architecture: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=967926
If you've seen the examples there I'm sure you would prefer a few more rules and less individualism too...
Palivec
7 Jul 2012
Genealogy / my Polish Grandfather in Hitler Youth? HOW? [65]
First in the Middle Ages (at least in Poznan), when German settlers built the part which is now the old town of the city. These people came mostly from neighbouring German territories. The next influx was during the Austrian counter-reformation in Silesia. And the last was when Prussia took over this part of Poland. The settlers from the Middle Ages and the 17th century were assimilated, the Prussian settlers were not (with a few exceptions).
When did the Germans settle in Posen/Poznan/Gnesen/Gniezno area and from where in Germany did they come from?
First in the Middle Ages (at least in Poznan), when German settlers built the part which is now the old town of the city. These people came mostly from neighbouring German territories. The next influx was during the Austrian counter-reformation in Silesia. And the last was when Prussia took over this part of Poland. The settlers from the Middle Ages and the 17th century were assimilated, the Prussian settlers were not (with a few exceptions).
Palivec
6 Dec 2011
Polonia / How would an American Pole be treated while studying in Germany? [25]
You should ask here: toytowngermany.com/forum
I was just curious as to how I might be treated by native Germans if/when I go to study at a German university.
You should ask here: toytowngermany.com/forum
Palivec
14 Nov 2011
USA, Canada / Going back to the Old Country of Poland after more than 25 years! (from USA) [249]
Of course. Silesia was part of Bohemia. It's closely related to Bohemian (+Upper Lusatian) and Saxon architecture, as most of the craftsmen who expanded the town hall between 1480 and 1520 came from there.
The town hall in Wroclaw is German architecture and not Polish, no?
Of course. Silesia was part of Bohemia. It's closely related to Bohemian (+Upper Lusatian) and Saxon architecture, as most of the craftsmen who expanded the town hall between 1480 and 1520 came from there.
Palivec
10 Nov 2011
Life / Poles don't know how to celebrate the Polish Independence Day? [57]
Truly European, lol
For most people here it is just what it is: a public holiday, and this year the chance to have a long weekend. A good sign :)
Truly European, lol
Palivec
2 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
None of the Upper Lusatian towns ever had a larger Czech minority. It doesn't make sense since the settlement history was totally different. Czechs didn't settle in these border forests, and they also didn't settle north of these forests. The Hussites also only plundered these towns. A de-Germanization only happened in regions were the German element was not strong, i.e. parts of Bohemia and Upper Silesia. The latter was partly Czechified, a fact almost forgotten today.
Many Protestant Czechs however fled to Upper Lusatia during the counter-reformation, and Zittau for example had a small Czech community until the late 19th century. Zittau also owns parts of Pragues cathedral treasury, since the canons fled to the town during the Hussite wars.
I only know this because I worked in this region for some time (EU programs) and bought a few books there, mainly German ones. And since you said you read many Czech and Polish historians: I hope you know that history books from Communist times should be avoided?!
My sources said Zittau had a lot of Czechs, I suspect four of them did at any rate after being sacked by the Hussites in the 1430s.
None of the Upper Lusatian towns ever had a larger Czech minority. It doesn't make sense since the settlement history was totally different. Czechs didn't settle in these border forests, and they also didn't settle north of these forests. The Hussites also only plundered these towns. A de-Germanization only happened in regions were the German element was not strong, i.e. parts of Bohemia and Upper Silesia. The latter was partly Czechified, a fact almost forgotten today.
Many Protestant Czechs however fled to Upper Lusatia during the counter-reformation, and Zittau for example had a small Czech community until the late 19th century. Zittau also owns parts of Pragues cathedral treasury, since the canons fled to the town during the Hussite wars.
I only know this because I worked in this region for some time (EU programs) and bought a few books there, mainly German ones. And since you said you read many Czech and Polish historians: I hope you know that history books from Communist times should be avoided?!
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
Because Poland was a multiethnic country maybe? Lucas Watzenrode, Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, Arthur Schopenhauer and Andreas Schlüter were born in Poland. Are they Poles?
Oh , really , why do Germans claim Kopernik to be German if he was born in Poland .
Because Poland was a multiethnic country maybe? Lucas Watzenrode, Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, Arthur Schopenhauer and Andreas Schlüter were born in Poland. Are they Poles?
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
Zittau, like the Bohemian towns south of the border, was mostly German too, unlike the other Upper Lusatian towns it was just part of Bohemia proper for some time. Bautzen and Kamenz on the other hand had a large Sorbian population.
Zittau, like the Bohemian towns south of the border, was mostly German too, unlike the other Upper Lusatian towns it was just part of Bohemia proper for some time. Bautzen and Kamenz on the other hand had a large Sorbian population.
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
You forgot a little detail: the overwhelming majority of the bishopric were Germans. Did they turn into Poles too when they fought against the Order?
Copernicus decided who he was when he fought for the Polish king in defence of Olsztyn against the German knights. Nothing can be clearer than that.
You forgot a little detail: the overwhelming majority of the bishopric were Germans. Did they turn into Poles too when they fought against the Order?
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
According to Jewish law someone is Jewish if his or her mother was a Jew. The mother of Kopernik(us) was German. :D
Mikołaj Kopernik is Polish pretty much in the same way as Isaac Newton was British Jew , according to Jewish law .
According to Jewish law someone is Jewish if his or her mother was a Jew. The mother of Kopernik(us) was German. :D
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
And? They never met him, they only knew his works, which were written in Latin. And he was from Poland, so he was a Pole for them.
So even Copernicus' enemies knew he was Polish.
And? They never met him, they only knew his works, which were written in Latin. And he was from Poland, so he was a Pole for them.
Palivec
31 Oct 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
As someone who calls himself an expert you should know that the 10.000 people are propaganda, like the propaganda of the Order who said they killed 16 people. And no, they didn't turn against the Order because of a bunch of killed council men but because the Order raised taxes and because of inner struggles.
So, ethnicity in the modern sense didn't exist, cultural identities only to some extent, yet the order represented "German nationalism". Ahhm, what?
Don't forget the Teutonic Knights killed 10,000 people in Danzig in 1308, and killed most of the City Council in 1412. This is why the towns turned against the Order.
As someone who calls himself an expert you should know that the 10.000 people are propaganda, like the propaganda of the Order who said they killed 16 people. And no, they didn't turn against the Order because of a bunch of killed council men but because the Order raised taxes and because of inner struggles.
Ethnicity was not the same concept in the 15th and 16th Century as it is today. Poland and German were languague groups, cultural identities to some extent.
I think it is unfortunate however to deny the historical reality that many Germans elected to join Poland voluntarily and rejected the aggressive type of German nationalism represented by the Teutonic Knights
So, ethnicity in the modern sense didn't exist, cultural identities only to some extent, yet the order represented "German nationalism". Ahhm, what?
Palivec
22 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Evil Jews I think.
Evil Jews I think.
Palivec
18 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Oh wow, lol.
And to answer your question: Unites States, France, Germany, AFAIK.
To further strenghten your argument you could count how many elements were discovered by Poles. :D
Poland has an element named after it in the periodic table. Tell me, how many other countries have something like that?
Oh wow, lol.
And to answer your question: Unites States, France, Germany, AFAIK.
To further strenghten your argument you could count how many elements were discovered by Poles. :D
Palivec
13 Oct 2011
News / Palikot or the Poles getting rid of the Polish society old Taboos in 2011? [30]
And Italy. A nation which accepts a prime minister who bangs a different prostitute each night must be tolerant... ;)
And Italy. A nation which accepts a prime minister who bangs a different prostitute each night must be tolerant... ;)
Palivec
13 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Poland was less urbanized (don't know the exact numbers, but the eastern part was 27% vs. 44% for Eastern Germany). Poland was also controlled by foreign powers (which didn't invest in education for Poles) during the 19th and early 20th century, when science literally exploded. That's why most educational institutions in Poland were founded only after 1918, and soon after Poland became part of the Soviet block, which wasn't interested in high education for the masses.
What's the reason for this?
Poland was less urbanized (don't know the exact numbers, but the eastern part was 27% vs. 44% for Eastern Germany). Poland was also controlled by foreign powers (which didn't invest in education for Poles) during the 19th and early 20th century, when science literally exploded. That's why most educational institutions in Poland were founded only after 1918, and soon after Poland became part of the Soviet block, which wasn't interested in high education for the masses.
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Lets try a different map...
I still see German Poland and Russian Poland, lol...
Palivec - we can't even talk about Polska A an B anymore! Poland is firmly behind PO - that much is obvious.
Lets try a different map...
I still see German Poland and Russian Poland, lol...
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]
And how many would accept... ahhm, her... if she would look like this?
600full-kalena-rios.jpg
SCNR ;)
And how many would accept... ahhm, her... if she would look like this?
600full-kalena-rios.jpg
SCNR ;)
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
Life / Are Polish people so chaotic and disorganized like Germans say? [89]
Ever met one? Ever been to Germany? Europe? Outside of the USofA?
Never belive anything a German said, they hate the Polish, and will forever.
Ever met one? Ever been to Germany? Europe? Outside of the USofA?
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]
You summed it up perfectly. Americans have no clue about the EU and modern Europe. When Europeans talk about integration and collaboration all Americans understand is losing sovereignty. The concept of the EU is simply to much for a nation (=USofA) where 70% of the inhabitants don't own a passport and never crossed a border.
The benefit of distance gives US Poloninas a better overview of what it's all about. And selling off Poland's last remaining assets to foreign interests, which the Tusk gang is so keen on, is not a good career move for Poland.
You summed it up perfectly. Americans have no clue about the EU and modern Europe. When Europeans talk about integration and collaboration all Americans understand is losing sovereignty. The concept of the EU is simply to much for a nation (=USofA) where 70% of the inhabitants don't own a passport and never crossed a border.
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
I don't believe I've ever met or spoken with a native Silesian speaking German or even their native tongue. Same goes fore Cashubs or Sorbs.
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
I once talked with a very old gentleman, oh, I'd guess round about 85, or so, from the former Koenigsberg, East Prussia (now Kaliningrad!). When he spoke German, his accent reminded me immediately of a Pole speaking;
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Travel / Where would Poles (from Poland and abroad) migrate in case of rapid coming of new Ice age? [27]
Serbia?
They should come to a place full of beaches hot women and booze.
Serbia?
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
News / Tusk wants to privatize PKP Cargo. [38]
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
Palivec
6 Oct 2011
Life / Are Polish people so chaotic and disorganized like Germans say? [89]
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
I've been to both countries and Germany definitely looks more organized.
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
Palivec
30 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.