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skysoulmate   
27 Nov 2011
Law / I am starting a new business life in Poland (coming from Sydney) [84]

At least you can use the quote function Magda. The function was taken away for those of us who use iPhones. When I quote someone I have to type the HTML code and copy & paste the message I want to quote within the brackets.

Like this:

...type HTML code and copy & paste the message I want to quote.

Anyways, I'm glad Zach saved up some money as it might take time to find a new job in a country he's never lived in.
skysoulmate   
27 Nov 2011
Law / I am starting a new business life in Poland (coming from Sydney) [84]

You're welcome and just to be clear, yes, we have many problems here just like anywhere else but overall it's a pretty darn good country to be living in, just like Australia. You'll see ups and downs anywhere you go and many people like to 'whinge' no matter what. I have many Australian friends and they seem to be enjoying living here in the US although many miss their families.

I think it boils down to making a decision, hopefully a somewhat well educated guess and sticking to that decision. Forget the past and focus on the future, too many people dwell on "what iff's" and "should've - would've", so stick to your plans, keep an open mind, be ready to improvise and I'm sure only the sky will be your limit. Cheerio.
skysoulmate   
26 Nov 2011
Law / I am starting a new business life in Poland (coming from Sydney) [84]

I would love to go the U.S for a holiday but I would not go there seeking a new life for myself.Australia on the other hand is a great country and there are many opportunities if you are prepared to work hard for it but unfortunately I can't afford the time because my babsia is getting old.

Well, America is a great country too and we also have many opportunities if you are prepared to work hard. It works better for some than others; I wish you well in your future endeavors. That goes to you and pawel, and I mean it sincerely.
skysoulmate   
24 Nov 2011
News / Famous Pickup Artist in Poland now [75]

I'd like to see that

The other day he was caught on camera doing just that.

Southern picks up a "woman"
skysoulmate   
23 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Huh??

Well, I was hoping you'd actually read my replies to YOU and not to southern.

The comment you quoted is my reply to southern when he tongue-in-cheek "sees" me gravitating toward a communist idea. (ALL jobs, coal mines, farming, etc, evenly divided, based on the "equal representation" idea). He knows how I feel about communism and that's why he made the comment. I replied "if that's what you really see then you need to check your vision" as I obviously am not supporting those ideas at all but rather am playing the devil's advocate, ie if we reserve government jobs for one group then how about all other jobs?

Either way, I gave you plenty of reasons to my thinking, but to summarize them all - racism and sexism is wrong, period. Whether by the government or in private business. No exceptions.

... I gave you plenty of reasons to my thinking...

90, 100 and 101 are my latests.
skysoulmate   
22 Nov 2011
Life / Multiracial Poles [154]

This is disgusting :(
You are all fools for ruining your lineage.

...but you've already ruined your own lineage. Anyone who's proud of racism and xenophobia is wasting his family's lineage.
skysoulmate   
21 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Carrie is absolutely correct. There's nothing wrong with "parity" although I hate that term and prefer equality. An equal society is a flourishing and a healthy society and it should be the ultimate goal for all of us. We'll probably never reach a total parity or some people would have to split in half.

There's discrimination and there's bias all over the world. Poland, US, Sweden, no perfect societies out there. Change begins from within, you cannot fight one form of discrimination with another, this time government sponsored discrimination.

So I think most people on this thread agree on the final outcome, we just disagree on how to get there.

As always I wasn't quick enough to proofread.

Meant to say:

...There's discrimination and there's bias all over the world. Poland, US, Sweden, no perfect societies out there. Change begins from within, but most of all, you cannot fight one form of discrimination with another, this time government sponsored discrimination. The whole idea is revolting. You dislike the current discrimination (yes, it exists) and therefore want to mandate positions based on gender (or race) which is a different form of ...discrimination.

Look it up.

Discrimination - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination
"Discrimination is the prejudicial treatment of an individual based on their membership in a certain group or category."

-> in this case the category is a person's gender....
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

If that's what you "see" then check your vision, prompto.

Besides, this wasn't truly a suggestion of mine, I simply highlighted the fallacy of forced gender (and race) quotas in workplaces.
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

"it is not. I will tell you why. I have read this thread and I have been observing what is happening re parity in Poland and most men don't want it. I am just making an observation. Why would men want to decide what it good for women and for that matter why would anybody decide what is good for another person, eh?"

I'm not saying your observations are incorrect, frankly I don't know what most Polish men want. However, if I understand you correctly you feel that a majority of Polish men are pigs and therefore f@&k them, let's discriminate against them, an eye for an eye, correct? Yeah, that'll really bring out equality in your society. lol

"OK, relating and being in someone else's shoes are two different things. There are limits to relating to things imo."

Fortunately (for me and for other men) that's irrelevant when it comes to voting. My voice counts as much as yours does (not in Poland but generally speaking). I'd never try to discount your opinion on testicular cancer just because being a woman you "don't really understand."

in your opinion, not mine. We are talking about parity in the Polish government- a direct representation of the society.

How about parity in coal mines? Why don't you force at least 50% of the miners to be women? Construction workers? Farmers? Trash collectors? Direct representation, right?

"that would be my understanding. I will not have it any other way."

If you wouldn't have it any other way than you're agreeing with me. Yet I'm against government imposed quotas which you support and therefore you don't agree with me at all and would indeed have the "other way" or ANY way to achieve your goal of this fake equality.

"Isn't is a result of what happened in the past re admitting more men then women? Is has not been overturned. It is just the natural reaction to the number of admitted white males. It will balance itself eventually."

Not sure what you're saying here. Yes, it was overturned. In 2003 to be precise. It's a slow process and the race/gender law still exists in many areas of our lives but at least the law is now being confronted.

Women who in the past supported this reverse discrimination realized that their own sons were chance-less when faced with lesser performing females (and/or minorities) when applying to good universities simply because they had the "wrong" gender or the "wrong" skin color. The minority/female quota had to be filled no matter what. Those same women changed their mind on what affirmative action really is. Slowly the society rebelled and the Supreme court struck down parts of the law. It still stands but has more restrictions.

"How would you implement the changes if they would not be imposed by the government then? How would you secure equality to people, women? I am curious."

One way is to create interest for male dominated fields with the young girls (similar to "take your daughter to work" program) and likewise take the boys to hospitals, restaurants and other female dominated fields. True interest, curiosity is how you attract future talent. Implement severe penalties for anyone who discriminates based on gender (or skin color). I'm talking multi-year long prison sentences for those who are found guilty. Punish those who discriminate, not the entire male population. My approach would take longer to implement. Those are just some ideas, I'm sure there are many more ways to achieve that.

PS. I am turning in. Long day:)
tbc."


Ok, nite nite.
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

"so why do you even use those words?"

- Because the argument you used is a femi-nazi argument. "You're not one of us, thus you don't understand.". It's an elitist, sexist argument, a flawed argument.

"I see the reason for parity in the Polish government, you don't. You talking it way to personally Sky."

- it means we disagree, NOT that I don't understand because I'm a man. I'm not taking this personally at all, it's just a message board.

"It wasn't sarcastic. I merely pointed out that most men are not able to relate to parity issue because they are not women. Simple. That said I am sure you are an expert on many things. "

- Well, is it possible there were white men and women who knew slavery was wrong even when it was still legal? How come? How could they relate? After all, they were white?? Now change the color of one's skin to one's gender and tell me how this is any different?

"parity and stealing are two different things, there is no comparison, how could there be."

- They're exactly the same. Theft. You award a person with a position (money, benefits, etc.) based on what's between his/her legs and not his/her knowledge and experience.

"I don't see parity as a negative, but a positive thing.... Parity in my view has nothing to do with discrimination, why would you even think that?"

- If parity is achieved simply because there were just as many talented and experienced men as women then yes, it's a great thing.

- Today however, parity is a government tool of reverse discrimination, or revenge discrimination. In the US it's achieved via the so called "affirmative action", a term created by the politically correct crowd. In Sweden until very recently the affirmative action was called "positive diskriminering", or "positive discrimination", positive for some (women and minorities) and negative for others (primarily white males).

- Recently the Supreme court struck down several affirmative action laws, for example they can't use it any longer as a school admission criteria. Until recently if a man and a woman applied to a university and both had the exact same grades, let's say a GPA of 3.89 and they scored the same on the entrance exam, the woman would be admitted before the man simply because she was a woman. For years the affirmative action controlled school entrance policies but fortunately it's now been overturned.

- Note, I'm not saying our society is equal, or perfect or that discrimination doesn't exist. It does and it needs to be changed. However, government sponsored discrimination is just as wrong.
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

you have the right to express your opinion, which you did, so I am not sure why you are putting words in my mouth?

I am not a femi- nazi, what is wrong with you lol

I know you aren't, I've followed you long enough to know that (no, I'm not a"stalker" :))

Yet your sarcastic comment about me not being able to understand because I'm a man is a typical femi-nazi argument. I don't have to steal to know that theft is wrong. Discrimination, whether on a personal level or on a government sponsored level is ALWAYS wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't believe in "parity", I believe in equality. Government sponsored "equality" via forced parity will always fail. It might look equal on paper but it'll never be where it really matters, in people's hearts.

Ps. ...and what's wrong with strong women btw? :-)
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

yep, you are really concerned since you are a Polish woman and you live in Poland.

I see, as a man I'm totally clueless and have no right to express my opinions. Additionally I don't live in Poland and therefore I know even less. Frauen über Alles, femi-nazism has gotten to your head.

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To skysoulmate

Sorry if that sounds like I'm casting all polish women as airheads, I only know 2 who live in Poland, it's the women who I meet in my area of cardiff that I who I was writing about, who are expats anyway.

No need to appologize. Besides, as a man apparently I know nothing anyways.

My point was that discrimination is wrong. Any government enforced quotas are a form of legalized duscriminatiin based on past wrongs. That's why i agreed with the first part of your post.

The second part, well, you simply know two airheads. They're Polish but could've been British, Germans or Americans. That's all you had to say.

No apology needed. Especially to me, I'm not even a woman and as such I know nothing.

Btw., "legalized duscriminatiin" = "legalized discrimination"

Wasn't quick enough to correct.
skysoulmate   
20 Nov 2011
Life / Is parity the answer for Polish women? [262]

Why should women have 'legislated parity'?

Truer words couldn't have been spoken. Logical, to the point and accurate.

Parity for females in Poland?

So "most" Polish women are airheads based on your personal experiences??

All this parity stuff, it's rubbish, use your brain and you'll go places!

Seems like you're using your own advice in the first part of your post and not so much when you write about your perception of Polish women. What you described here are your perceptions, hardly any "facts".
skysoulmate   
19 Nov 2011
History / Polish Military Medals, WWI era found in Detroit [9]

Not an expert whatsoever. I'm aware of the many fakes which is why something from an estate in the US appealed to me. The "fake" market is something more common in Poland proper, the market for Polish medals here in the US simply isn't very large, at least that's my perception. Again, not an expert.
skysoulmate   
19 Nov 2011
History / Polish Military Medals, WWI era found in Detroit [9]

AirCorps (which unit btw?) - was this your family's estate or someone else's?

This is my understanding of what this cross represents; to those who have more info please advice if my findings are incorrect.

The inscription reads ""Swoim Żołnierzom z Ameryki Oswobodzona Polska" followed by Szampania, Lwów, Wołyn, Pomorze. Something like "[To] Our Own (Our) Soldiers from America [From] Liberated (Reborn) Poland". Words in brackets [ ] are my own to simplify the meaning of the inscription. There are also 4 important regions for this particular army, Chapaigne (France), Lwów (now Lviv, Ukraine), Wołyń (now Volhynia, Ukraine) and Pomorze (Pomerania).

The cross was given to Americans who volunteered to fight for Poland. They were primarily Poles (and Lithuanians) who lived in America or were of Polish/Lithuanian heritage.

Below is a short history of "Blue Army" which had it's beginnings in France. Remember that Poland was reborn in 1918 after a 123 year long hiatus from the world map, during all those years the country was divided between Russia, Austria and Prussia. Thousands and thousands of Poles had escaped the occupation and lived literally all over the world. In 1917 the US entered WWII and many Poles or Americans of Polish heritage volunteered and joined the newly former army commanded by the General Józef Haller. The army was located in the Champagne region of France (Szampania in Polish just as the inscription reads) and wore blue uniforms.

Haller's Army (Blue Army)

The Blue Army, or Haller's Army, are informal names given to the Polish Army units formed in France during the later stages of World War I. The army was created in June 1917 as part of the Polish units allied to the Entente. After the Great War ended, the units were transferred to Poland, where they took part in the Polish-Ukrainian War and the Polish-Bolshevik War. The nicknames come from the soldier's French blue uniforms and the name of the army's commander, General Józef Haller de Hallenburg.

US recruitment poster for the Polish Army in France


en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue_Army_(Poland)

Meant to say "In 1917 the US entered WWI" and "...Champagne region of France (Szampanja in Polish just as the inscription reads)..."

Sure would be nice with a longer "edit post" time... ;)
skysoulmate   
19 Nov 2011
History / Polish Military Medals, WWI era found in Detroit [9]

AirCorps, are you interested in selling this item?

good-times.webshots.com/photo/2573308420060718861BNJjCR

I have no idea how much it's worth but if you're interested please let me know.
skysoulmate   
8 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

That's fair enough and we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'll never watch a lector coached movie, find it too distracting and frankly I think it's somewhat insulting to our intelligence. However, as I said, people who're used to it apparently like it.

Also, I forgot to add China to the list of countries where I have experienced the "secret voice" programming. It's not very common, they usually provide subtitles but I remember trying to watch an Australian nature program while in Beijing and there was a Chinese "lector" who totally ruined the experience so I ended up switching channels. Fortunately (for those of us who don't like it) this technique is very rare, almost unheard of in most countries.
skysoulmate   
8 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

gee, forget movies - take TV shows from channels like Discovery, Animal Planet, National Geographic - do you think one can follow such programmes with subtitles - it's just too tiresome

My mom does just that almost every day in Sweden and I'm yet to hear her complain. However, she frequently impresses me with her English vocabulary. She regularly picks up new English words thanks to the subtitles AND the original sound.

If it's too tiresome for you then maybe you should have your eyes checked, maybe you need glasses? I'm not being disparaging toward you, really, that's not my intention. I just can't see how reading a few sentences at a time can be tiresome to anyone??

Not a scientific study but from the traveling I've done so far I think the vast majority of countries use subtitles to show movies/programs made in non-native languages. Like 80% of places I've been to. Then a much smaller portion, maybe 15%, use the dubbing technique. A lector's voice is extremely unusual and so far I've only heard it in Russia, Kazakhstan and on a Polish satellite network. So somehow people manage without this reading dude? I guess it really boils down to what you're used to.
skysoulmate   
8 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

I cant understand how people who can understand British English cannot understand American English,after all its just another regional accent ;)

English 0.5 ! I love it! LOL

I agree, I run into pilots from the UK, Australia and New Zealand, no problems understanding them, it's like when I listen to a Norwegian, they simply speak a different, funny sounding version of Swedish... LOL (keeeeedin'!!!!)

Indian and Malaysian English can be challenging but even those dialects aren't too bad.

Yes, subtitles is the way to go, makes you appreciate other cultures more. I don't speak Korean, Japanese or Mandarin (just basic sentences) but I love watching movies from those countries, I need subtitles but I want the original sound just the way locals hear it. Some Stasi dude translating for me totally destroys this experience. Those who prefer a lector's voice, good for you, do what you prefer. However, I wish there was an option to opt out and switch to subtitles for those of us who can't stand a lector's voice. Unfortunately it's usually all or nothing. A movie with a lector's voice equals nothing for me, I just can't watch it, way too distracting.
skysoulmate   
8 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

You wouldn't have those problems, even with the British English, which is better English.

Is that so? That's like saying Norwegian is better than Swedish, which of course is a bunch of nonsense.
...and if you bring it up because British English is the "original" version of the English language well, the "original" picture box was black and white. It doesn't mean it's "better" than a modern color TV.

"Original" doesn't have to mean it's "better."

Things (and languages) can improve.

PS. Chill folks, I'm keedin' here, let's get back to the subject...
skysoulmate   
8 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

Ok, I'm lazy but at least agree with me that lector is better than dubbing ;)

Well, if you want me to choose between pest and cholera I guess I'll choose ...neither. Yeah, lektor or the secret Stasi voice might be better than dubbing but in my view changing actors' voices should be illegal, I look at it as an intellectual property rights issue.

You wouldn't dream of changing the ingredients of an exquisite French wine just because it's meant for the German or for the Polish market, how is this any different?? The linguistic intricacies ARE a big part of any great movie, no matter which language it was recorded in, the original is always best. Everything else is a dumbified, cheapo version of the original. A linguistic fake if you so will.

...and strzyga, if you discard all your other reasons for your preference, don't you feel like forcing people to listen to a "lector" is somehow demeaning to the public? As if they simply weren't intelligent enough to read and comprehend max 2 sentences at a time? Really? Is that where we're heading as a society? What's next? A "taste" lector? Someone who can chew our food and let us know in our own language what the filet mignon "really" tastes like?
skysoulmate   
7 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

I disagree. And many filmmakers disagree with you too. Clint Eastwood went against the norm when he insisted that large portions of Letters from Iwo Jima were filmed in Japanese. The movie became a huge success and I cannot fathom watching the Japanese soldiers' tribulations in English rather than in their native tongue. When I go to a gourmet French restaurant I don't ask for ketchup. Likewise, when I watch a foreign movie I watch it in the native tongue, the way THEY made it.

Besides, I learned how to read when I was about 6 1/2, I'm pretty good at it by now. ;)

Maybe it's the simultaneous capacity thing but I have no problem doing two things at the same time and I enjoy the movie in the original language so tremendously more whether I actually speak the language or not.
skysoulmate   
7 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

An interesting subject, I travel a lot so I get to experience a little of everything, subtitles, dubbing and every now and then I hear what you call the "lector" and what I call the voice from hell. :-)

I like it the way Scandinavia handles it, subtitles only with the exception of children movies which get dubbed. Personally I think changing a person's voice, be it a different language or not, is equivalent to violating an artist's rendition of his/her creation. Many years ago I was vacationing on the Tenerife island (Spain) and got the dis-pleasure of watching a re-run of "Dallas" where J.R. spoke Spanish with a very high-pitched, female sounding voice. His voice totally ruined my perception of the movie series.

There's also something else to consider; not too long ago, while in Sweden, I read an interesting article about subtitle usage in one of the English language magazines. It mentioned that on average people who lived in countries where dubbing movies is very common (Spain, France, Italy, etc.) score fairly low in English comprehension and the ability to communicate in that language. Whereas for example the average scores are much higher in the Netherlands and the Scandinavian countries. Granted, since English is a Germanic language it is indeed easier for people who speak other Germanic languages such as Dutch, Swedish or Norwegian than those who speak French or Spanish for example. Nevertheless, I think listening to a foreign language while reading subtitles in your own tongue helps a person to process languages much better.

In the US people hate subtitles too and I think it's too bad. I noticed that very often when we're in Beijing, Kuala Lumpur or Almaty and people speak English with a very heavy accent I'm usually one of the first guys in my group who picks up on what's being said. The "no subtitles" crowd struggles with anything that sounds "different". Of course, I have no scientific proof for any of this but it's my belief that dubbing movies impedes on people's linguistic abilities. I'd imagine using a lector has the same, negative effect as it's very hard to follow a movie in the native language.

To me watching a Japanese/Chinese/Brasilian, etc movie means being able to follow it in the local tongue. Some subtle expressions simply cannot be translated and then dubbed to by an English speaking inposter. Of course, the same applies to other languages. At least that's my opinion.
skysoulmate   
6 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

First of all, I don't call your thoughts BS. The above quote is your opinion based on some high level speculation. Airbus was bleeding financially as the A380 had just been launched and they couldn't afford to spend money on a yet another major aircraft redesign, and that's why they came up with the initial proposal. However they were forced into the new design by customer demand. Udvar Hazy represented just one of them, Lufthansa was pressuring Airbus so was Qatar and many other airlines. There's no conspiracy here, the initial Airbus refusal and the public statements by some of the customers were highly publicized. All literature I've read so far shows that composites are indeed very superior to previous materials being used. I trust the engineers over everyone else, including my own worries of the many "what it's." I'm not gonna get into an argument over why Airbus finally redesigned the A350 because I think it's irrelevant. In the long run Airbus made the right decision, a redesigned A330 could never compete with the 787, the new A350 might be able to do just that. Whether we like it or not most future aircraft will be primarily composite designs.
skysoulmate   
5 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

Again ... thank you, Skysoulmate, for your views on this. I appreciate it. I would also like to stress again that in no way I intended to bash Boeing. If I gave that impression, then I am very sorry indeed. The Dreamliner was just the only aeroplane I knew which is made out of composite materials.

You're welcome and I knew exactly what you meant. I threw the A350 into the equation to highlight the problems all manufacturers might be dealing with. I hope a Comet scenario will never materialize and I'm sure those in charge know what they're doing. You're correct about the Italy incident too. Metal fatigue wasn't really understood back then. For example Comet's passenger side-windows were rectangular and cracks developed in window corners due to the continuous pressurizing and depressurizing of the aircraft. Unfortunately people died before they realized what was going on.
skysoulmate   
5 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

Some purty shoes there aphro, especially them red ones. :)

Yeah, of the European airlines KLM (or actually Air France since they own KLM) is a good carrier, I like Lufthansa and SAS too (somewhat biased lol). Virgin Atlantic is another good one and no, it's not because of the name. ;)

I'd say most airline in Europe are pretty good, haven't flown on LOT but my friends who'd deadheaded on them said they had good equipment and service. Airlines are like women you know, they all have good days and not so good days. ...and some days they just want to yell at you. :-)

Why doesn't the quote function work from anymore? Well, at least from an iPhone?
vincent: Time to put that iphone on eBay mate, and buy yourself a net book! :) Perhaps you should take this up with Apple?

Net book?? That's so WWII! lol

...I do agree with you with your concerns about the dreamliner. We are at an interesting chapter in our world and the materials used to construct the plane have me thinking .... If they start compromising materials I think I may explode. (not that boeing has compromised- but you are accurate when saying they are rushing the build)...

Just to clarify, I'm hesitant when it comes to this "new" technology however I definitely don't think Boeing is rushing the Dreamliner, if anything they're taking their time and I'm actually kind of impressed they haven't caved in to this immense timeline pressure. I have a couple of friends working there and heard that even when some major customers told Boeing they'd be canceling orders if B didn't speed things up (787 was already delayed) the management told them they'd take as long as they needed to get it right.

As all new airplanes the 787 will have some teething problems but I think it'll end up being a great bird. If anyone might be tempted to rush things it'd be Airbus with the A350. Remember that when they announced the original A350 the industry specialists and major airlines worldwide lambasted the design as a big joke. It was basically a stretched A330 with new engines, no real technological improvements at all. Airbus didn't want to design a new aircraft because they're losing money already on the A380 with the huge delays (think penalty payments to airlines that had ordered them). Eventually they had to give in to customer demand and redesigned the 350. However, now they're several years behind on what's become a major money maker for Boeing so I'm sure they'll be tempted to speed thing up. I hope (and believe) that cooler heads will prevail.

As far as the safety aspect of this new technology being used on both airplanes (787 and 350) only time can tell.
The A350 was born as an A330-derived minimum-changed competitor to the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and the larger Boeing 777, but was unanimously rejected by prospective customers. Airbus was forced to redesign the initial proposal, but airlines voiced for a complete overhaul. The eventual proposal incorporates major changes, which Airbus says that will be more fuel-efficient, with up to 8% lower operating cost than the Boeing 787..."

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Airbus_A350

What's the point when both of you are full of sh*t. All that talk of not flying unless it's a brand new plane etc...

Nah, they might be high maintenance (allegedly :) but aren't full of this or that. They hold a pretty common view amongst the passengers and the airlines know it, perception has always been a factor when it comes to travel. Many years ago American Eagle (AA subsidiary) did a study on passengers' perception of flying turboprop airplanes versus jet airplanes To clarify, turboprop airplanes are jets too, they burn jet-a fuel just like the regular jets but they also have a reduction gear box which "slows down" the engine rotation so a propeller can be attached to it. There are versions without the rgb but that's irrelevant here.) Anyways, turboprops are much, much more fuel efficient on shorter routes.)

At the time eagle was flying the Saab 340 turboprops and the Embraer regional jets. They interviewed numerous passengers at first, they focused on those with little flight experience. Almost unanimously passengers prefered the jets. They felt that the turboprops were old, post WWII airplanes (many were about the same age as the jets), loud, (sound levels were about the same just slightly different frequencies), unsafe (total nonsense), etc.

Then at several airports they built a walk way to the turboprops so passengers could not see the airplane from outside while boarding. Basically they walked from a terminal section that had no windows via a jetway (no windows) directly to the airplane. Now they interviewed just as many passengers about their experiences and to everyone's amazement there were no longer any major differences in people's preferences, jets were still preferred but by a very small margin. Yes, perceptions are hugely important when it comes to passengers' preferences.

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please refer to #182 post in this thread:). Tad patronizing, wouldn't you say? Whatever makes you feel better Sky. Check sarcasm in the dictionary;)

Re-read my original comment and the one you just replied too. There's absolutely zero patronizing. You totally missed my humor and my sarcasm. I think the dictionary would help you much more on this one. :)