Life / Czas honoru (Time of honoru) TV serial [38]


Can you recommend a book that covers this period in history? They were called the Stalinist years. The "fascists" and "Nazis" from AK, NSZ, BCh, WiN, were systematically rounded up, thrown in prison(often with German war criminals, as in the serial, read Rozmowy z Katem pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozmowy_z_katem) tortured,shot in the back of the head after a twenty minute "trial," and then dumped in nameless pits. Supervised by NKVD.

Since you prefer books to film, you must read sklep-niezalezna.pl/pl/p/e-book-Bestie-Tadeusz-M.-Pluzanski/465

Notice the resurgence of the language today. SLD and Ruch Palikota are meeting to fight "fascism and Nazism" in Poland, of course, in addition to fighting the Church, traditional family, and Independent Poland Just like their daddies did in the forties and fifties.


Palikot: The Constitution, Coat of Arms, and the flag are not necessary for Poland. They are false symbols.
janpinski.nowyekran.pl/post/72220,palikot-konstytucja-godlo-i-f laga-nie-sa-potrzebne-polsce-to-falszywe-symbole

Anyway, a very decent serial. Besides Paradoks, the only thing worth watching this season.

News / Hooligans in PRL times ... and Warsaw in 2012 [28]


I saw a group of cops writing up a larger group of hooligans. Na Trakcie Królewskim. As my wife was buying something at a kiosk, I got closer to see what was happening. It was a briefing.


The first thing you noticed is that all have a nickname. You know, I watched a ducumenteary on the Syrian uprising. What ineptitude!

I remember as a scout reading "Wielka Gra" by Aleksander Kamiński. Its a 1942 manual for patriotic behavior in time of national crisis. Szare Szeregi.

Law / How to renounce citizenship of Poland? [7]



Because your child is Polish? Is that in Russia? You should see a doctor.

News / Poland's Ruch Narodowy - should it be banned? [62]


In the time of trouble, you will wish those skinheads are on your side, well, unless you prefer Ruch Międzynarodowy.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

I'll tell you what. Sunday, there will be four independence marches in Warsaw. The original ONR march ending at Roman Dmowski's statue, the President's "procession"...ending at Dmowski's staue(paying tribute to Nazis?), the Socialists march(that's new too), and your type march made up of communist youth and celebrities(ending at the Red Army cemetery most likely). If the ONR march will be the largest, you might want pack the backpack you arrived with, because you certainly do not want to live in Nazi majority country anymore.

Observe closely, and get back to me with your report.


My family were those brave Poles, not yours. And while they were fighting, your country dropped leaflets on the Germans( that's Nazis to you).

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


You linked to a neo-Nazi site, not to ONR. Here is the ONR site, do you find Polish flags extreme?
onr.h2.pl/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=4&Itemid=110


You want the year your country recognized communist Poland or what is your question?


You mean being a Marxist makes you a happy dick?


You equate the NSZ with the SA? Are you that daft?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


There might be a few neo-Nazis in Poland, just as there are a few in Israel, but one must be seriously undereducated to call ONR Nazis. Members of ONR were hunted down by the Germans, those Nazis to you, and the communists later on. To call them neo-Nazis is total ignorance of the subject.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


You don't have to explain what happened because I can read.
Everything you know about ONR is from wiki. That's the extent of your knowledge. You have no concept and I can't recommend any reading to you because you can't read Polish and are not interested anyway.

Get this in your head. The communists called ONR and Betar(Jewish) Nazis, just like you are doing. After the war, they proceeded in murdering them along the AK for not accepting their Soviet imposed regime. Your country happily accepted the communist rule in Poland. Now, you come in...

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

Not till Harry and friends tried it to be. I asked for moderation earlier, but she erased my request in solidarity with the socialists.

There is nothing more to say, so the thread can be closed as it will go around in flaming circles. Most of my threads are anti-communist and all the Marxists pop right up.


I;m not going to repeat myself. Go back and look up Jewish Betar in Poland. They used the same salute? Were they Nazis? ONR also had nothing to do with the Nazis.

Love / Polish mother, possible UK father - child law Poland. [35]

You might even give British nationality to a Polish guy's kid. That would be noble. :)

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


Any idea why there is a Nazis statue at the Amsterdam Olympic Stadium and those well known swastika replacement rings in Holland? Why are Nazi symbols all over U.K. cemeteries? Why do you call Jewish Betar members Nazis? Just because the communists called them that and you agree with them or is there another reason?


The Nazis threatened store chains with protests? You must be a WWII history buff.

• 
  Amsterdam.jpg
  

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


Conservatives and right-wing are Nazis. You're not alone in that thinking. The is a bloody trail of your like in Poland.


Look up what bełkot means.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

Perfect, you just want to post something, no matter what.


You mean EMPIK the Polish shopkeeper. Why did the "shopkeeper" apologize?


Again, why would a huge chain apologize for selling legal products? To Nazis, of all people?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

You haven't read the whole thread. Go back and do that and you will understand.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

What celebration?

What threats?

What neo-Nazis?

The Betar association with Nazis doesn't sit well with you? But ONR does?

Why do you speak of yourself in plural?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

I lied to you.

Now, were those Jews Nazis or not? Their numbers in Poland were about 40,000 and ONR were about 4,000. Both groups used the same greeting.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


The Romans were also doing Hitler Salutes?
Were Polish Jews also Nazis, since they were also doing "Hitler salutes" and wearing brown shirts?" They provided security for ONR marches and vice verse.

In the first photo you posted notice the "Nazi" banner they are carrying. It says: I'm a Pole and I have Polish duties. That's from Roman Dmowski, who with Paderewski and Witos, assured Poland become a free nation after 123 years of occupation. On Sunday, that famous "Nazi" president of RP, Bronislaw Komorowski, will be laying flowers at his statue in Warsaw. The Leftists are not happy with that; they would rather he lay flowers at some Lenin statue.

ONR use the Celtic Cross as one of their symbols. Well known Nazi symbol present all over U.K. The Brits and the Irish lay flowers on the graves of those "Nazis." Is that how you see it?

So, if you see a bald guy and the first thing that comes to your mind is a gas chamber, you might be a product of years of conditioning, and for sure know little about Polish history and our struggle for independence.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

No, you don't understand correctly. ONR had nothing to do with "nazi bastards."

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

What were the threats? How was EMPIK "prevented" from selling Lenin gadgets?

The article said people protested, nothing more.

You can search all you want to cover up your lies that someone "threatened" EMPIK and they were"forced" to withdraw the Lenin gadgets. They apologized, made some lame excuse about a mistake, and withdrew the crap.

No doubt, you look stupid now. Again.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

Your liar, liar, pants on fire argument is really working. Thanks for a laugh on a dull morning. Oh, shoot, it's 1 P.M., so I lied. Again.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


So you create screen names for yourself with a thought about me. How childish.


So, I'm a ...liar, huh? I wonder what your friends think of you when you brag that you've been having an argument on PF with Sokrates or Piłsudski?


Nothing. There is a certain schizophrenia, not mention logical fallacy, to most of his "arguments." For example, AK soldiers will be heroes and patriots fighting for Poland's independence and another time they will be fascists and the communists who murdered them will be heroes. Personally, I think he is paid to post here.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


Oh yeah, you did post on this forum for a while under the name PolishTraitor, remember?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


That's fine with you because the Germans didn't invade your country nor had they murdered anyone in your family. The same goes for communists. You are a disinterested bystander with a big mouth who has little knowledge of the events you are trying to get involved in.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]

So you think it is kosher to sell swastica bumper stickers in Poland?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


Everybody lies to you. Poor thing.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


So you served in the Peace Corps and not in the army. Why did you lie then?


Me, being unaware that since last year you can wear your Lenin and Hitler T-shirt with pride does not make me a liar.

A lie is when you claimed on this forum that there were more people in PZPR than in Solidarity. Even a ten-year-old Polish kid knows that there were ten million Solidarity members and two million Party members..That was a lie which served you in another slanderous "discussion."


Can you go somewhere else to stomp your little foot, please?

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


This is what happens when you don't replace communist judges. They tend to defend themselves and their sons with who you find such common ground.

Real Estate / Help need for choosing a neighbourhood in Warsaw [12]


Sound advice.

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


Art 256 Kodeks Karny


The stance of ONR and any other Pole who believed and believes in free and independent Poland was and is to fight totalitarian regimes like National Socialism and and its sister ideology - International Socialism.

Now, which army did you serve in?


You must be talking about the Polish Jews who served the Gestapo, but they didn't actually join the SS,, That's really of no consequence in this thread.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBagiew

History / Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland! [85]


To most people you hang out with, I 'm sure. To communists Armia Krajowa was fascist too. Here is how they dealt with the "fascists" after WWII:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August%C3%B3w_roundup