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Foreigner4   
11 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

If you claim that they never talked about Islam

Oh I know the guy enquired about what religion but Atta never goes into detail with people, he always tells them to look into it if they're really interested. He has got to be very very comfortable with a person's company, ...Why the FCUK am I explaining this to you? Look dipsh!t maybe you feel insecure about someone that isn't you influencing people so strongly, maybe you just got a weird hangup against anything muslim. Look just don't go assuming things you couldn't know anything about regarding people you've never met or even knew existed. Seriously why would you go disputing the little anecdote I gave regarding my friend and the convert? If you don't believe it then say so and leave it at that.

No I did not provide any details of their relationship.

you just filled in the blanks you don't have access to with your imagination, case in point:

If your friend was so impressed by behaviour of Muslim guy, he would most likely start such discussion.

Beside of that if you would re-read my previous post, you would find out that I did left some margin, that my assumption might be wrong.

I guess that's the best you can muster for admitting you're wrong. Well you gotta start somewhere.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Because you can take a look at your close relatives there? I see those documentaries for a laugh!

Well yeah the animal kingdom is filled with our relatives, if you acknowledge I'm human and those are my close relatives then they are also yours. If you don't acknowledge my humanity then you're getting your butt kicked badly in this debate by something you'd consider a lower life form.

Wow... how long is your moustache?

probably more sizeable than your backbone
I'm sorry you're unable to process the simple truths I espoused but give yourself time to grow up a bit and you'll see how much of a mark those you defend really take you for. The joke is on you.

huh...

dictate, it means to set or determine a situation rather than have it determined to you by others. It's too bad you're unable to differentiate it from the connotations of the word dictator in the political sense. Oh well, your inability to get past these little things is for you to deal with.

I have studied the religion well

lets hit it!

Muslims

Really a real waywayd community to say the very least of leasts!

see what I did there? Try to be at least genuine in your use of the quote function, unless you really are that disingenuous in real life as well.

Human's belong to a seperate level... we have souls... we have consceince...we are different.

So when did you become the all powerful decider of what does and doesn't have a soul?
Tell me what exactly is a conscience and how can you be so certain animals don't have one. How exactly do you determine the difference in "level" (your term not mine) between a human and another animal?

There is the mineral kingdom...
then comes the Vegetale Kingdom...
Then Come the Animal Kingdom...
Then Comes the Human Kingdom...
Beyond it is the Kingdom of the Prophets...who come in human form...

FINALLY....God's Existance...

from what authority do you base this off of?
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Perhaps it is the exception in this case that sheds a little light on the subject.
If black Jamaicans can do it, it would lead me to think that anyone with the means and the will can do it and it is not race based.

Then you would be lead down a path of false reasoning as you would clearly be ignoring the loopholes that allowed for such an entry to happen as well as duplicity and frequency of said event vs said activity. Please read z_dariusz's post above yours on this thread. After comprehending that you should reassess what it means for a sport to be race based and what modern demographics in N.america over the last 20 years has to say about family incomes.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

yeah canadians call it field hockey if it isn't on ice or of course there's also road hockey and floor hockey as well (i played a sh1tload of floor and road hockey).

There is a good possibility that it is also cultural.
Say I moved to Canada and had kids there.
I would not encourage my kids to play ice hockey but sports I know instead, as I do not even know the rules of ice hockey.

also my point, thank you for agreeing with me. I forgot to mention the indians (first nations)didn't generally play hockey either cause they were generally pretty poor too. Anyhow if you did move your kids might want to try it because other kids would be playing it (the money you do or don't have would determine if they could)

Diego Maradona playing football with oranges as an impoverished kid.

try that with hockey see how far your skills develop

Ho evr eard of a Jamaica national bobsled team?

calgary olympics but let's not use exceptions as anything other than examples of exceptions to general rules.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

'right' in Callan's world was written from the perspective of someone who had learnt from teaching soliders, who were used to the idea of discipline and respect.

wow if only that was the definition the rest of the esl world used. A beautiful attempt but only when you confine yourself to such limitations as Calla presents.

What language school does deliver?

here we're talking about a method though aren't we?

I don't think anyone is disputing this - but from the point of view of the teacher, it has benefits. And it does depend on the learner - there are people who simply want to get to a basic communicative level in a short period of time - not *everyone* wants to sit the CAE exam.

I agree with you in a way but I really think other approaches give the teacher much more overall, they just aren't as easy to fall into as the role of Callan "teacher."

I know one woman who uses Callan as the basis of her learning, who supplements it with grammar and uses every class as an opportunity to learn more. It works for her, she's highly motivated and crucially, Callan lets her monitor her own progress in the language.

Let's not use exceptions to try and make a point, we all know exceptions to general truths.

One thing is certain though - Callan itself is much, much better than the 'new' methods being derived (ripped off) from Callan in Poland.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

Not really - a lot is more to do with the fact that while Canadian kids all play hockey, it's not so much the done thing in America. Also, apart from North America - the main place for hockey is Europe.

you're not actually doing anything with the above statement except proving my point (while trying to be contrary and showing off your overall ignorance of the topic.

I grew up in Canada, i didn't play hockey cause it was (and still is) as expensive as hell. The black kids didn't play hockey either cause they also came from families which couldn't afford not only the equipment but also the cost for ice time, or the free time to drop off and pick kids up from the rink, and the money for tournaments and the time for tournaments which are every other weekend. Not only that, they couldn't visually identify with anyone other Grant Fuhr or Pokey Reddick (sp). It's not a hard concept to get your mind around if you contemplate what I originally wrote.

BTW, As things are getting more expensive in Canada and both parents are working more, fewer kids play hockey. In fact swimming and soccer are (and have been for some time) far more popular with youth in Canada. Hockey still enjoys an entrenched system that allows for much greater development though.

Look to the northern states (Portland, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Connecticut) for your hockey players in the U.S. it's really not debatable. Yes there are exceptions of poor kids playing hockey but again they're only comparatively poor to their team mates or the majority of young players.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

So only rich white kids play?

comparatively, yes.
C'mon think about it, the average household income that a white hockey player has come from over the last 20 years is probably a lot higher than that of a black basketball, football (hand-egg) or baseball player. I think you'll be hard pressed not to agree with me on this.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

so your argument boils down to that it's better to do it wrong than do it right. OK, gotcha.

I know the system inside out, I know all about being creative with the method, you obviously missed the part where I wrote it has more failings than what it offers learners. And I write this with complete confidence as well.

If the point is to get something out of it for oneself then great, go on and have at it. It simply doesn't deliver on its' promises to the language learner and for that reason I feel compelled to denounce it.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

The NHL is in the US and Canana we have plenty of snow and Black athletes, yet not one Professional Hockey player?

Maybe they just dont like to swim or skate?

To be fair you really have to take economics into it. I'm assuming and I admit my whole argument could be flawed on this assumption but I'm guessing the huge representation of blacks in MLB, NFL, NBA, Boxing and Track events have to do with the initial economic factors which prohibited many young blacks from becoming involved in hockey. Do you know how expensive that sport is? This initial barrier created a tradition of nonparticipation in hockey.

In other words it hasn't been their thang cause it's been as expensive as hell yo.
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

For f's sake Seanus will you quit with your pro Callan b.s.

Look it's a crap system if you have any creativity and experience or good training in teaching a language. It's out of date and completely impractical in terms of realistic communication.

I did it for 2 years and it served to train me more than it served to help students acquire the language- and my delivery was considered damn near perfect by the students and my bosses. But guess what? I realized that it has more drawbacks than what it can offer.

Go volunteer at your local whatever. Take your CELTA with a trainer (or more often the case trainers) who has a good reputation as this will make a huge difference with what you come away with. Take it seriously and if you can only manage a pass C then you didn't take it seriously enough. Then take what you can get your first year and build a reputation.

You can make money here but for the most part you will either prostitute yourself, i.e. teach every waking hour of your life here (some do and have boat loads of cash) or take teaching so seriously that you can have people start bidding wars over your time. I've done both and now I do neither cause I really don't want to be doing esl for very much longer.

Keep in mind if your lessons are crap you better have a really good act prepared to keep people emotionally attached to you (I know at least one charlatan who specializes in this-makes me wretch) or people will start to cancel a lot and then just drop off- this happened to me when I took on more classes than I could effectively deliver (sucks to admit it but it's true) so if you can't give something prepared then scale back until you got the preparation bit aced.

Have a nice day

End rant(:
Foreigner4   
10 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Regarding violent crime coming from 3rd world immigrants

I advocate adopting a violent response. Until their violence subsides there can be no other response which will eventually get through to them. My rationale for this is quite simple. We are animals in my opinion, all of us. And it's from observing others' experiences communicating with other species that violence really has to be the way to communicate with 3rd worlders who choose to become violent in their host countries.

I love watching wildlife documentaries, there's a really intriguing number of documentaries which examine what happens when human animals attempt to bond with other species, dogs, horses, lions, wolves, etc. In each and every one of these cases the human animal adopts the body language and ways of the other species in attempts to "communicate."

It is also worth noting that these experts (through experience) are keenly aware of what body language is regarded as submissive in some species and what is aggressive and what is dominant. Knowing when not to be submissive with certain species is the difference between living and dying. For example when you encounter a bear in the forest you better not f'n run, if you do you present yourself as something to be preyed upon. Your chances for survival live and die on your being dominant, standoffish or aggressive.

With these people coming in from lawless and ruthless societies into ones where the average person is a lot more docile it is not unpredictable that they would view their new hosts as prey, or someone to be taken advantage of, oft times in a violent manner. I'm sorry to say but the only response to this is ruthless violence by the populace, in fact I would argue it must be completely out of proportion with their offense. Either that or these people must be immediately deported or put into a work camp.

All this pandering to them and adopting their ways or allowing this or that, or forgiving this offense or that offense, being dictated to instead of doing the dictating is what I believe to be one of the chief causes in the people of the host nation suffering violently at the hands of their guests. All this behavior, while it may play on the hearts strings, leads to you being seen as weak in their eyes and someone to be taken advantage of. Waiting for the state to protect you is what creates a victim mentality and that's no good when it feeds the bully's perception of his hosts. It's a bully mentality that some people still have because being a bully is what was needed to get by in their world. Strike the bullies down and do it ruthlessly or the pictures that z-dariusz posted will become more and more common place.

I'm a pretty liberal guy keep in mind, there's plenty of partisan conservatives I've ticked off here (liberal and democrats too). So before some of you spout off with "you're a fascist this or that" keep in mind I've come to advocate using violence as a response to the problem being discussed on this thread for specific reasons, which of course you're free to argue and perhaps, if convincing I'll see another point of view.

Of course I may be wrong but I doubt it. I understand that neither you witnessed how it happened. While your friend bothered to explain Islamic doctrine. He could be surprised that this guy converted but this doesn't means that he excluded such outcome from the start. A believer who talk about his own doctrine always try to show it in the best light to attract non-believers. It is absolutely logical.

Wow I cannot believe you actually have the audacity to assume you would somehow know the details of a relationship between 2 people you never knew existed, have never met, and still don't even know their names, voices, mannerisms or even where they live. Are you really so insecure that you simply cannot admit you made assumptions you weren't fit to make and are simply wrong on this matter?

My friend never explained anything to the guy, it's simply how he carried himself in specific situations that had this other go learn more about his particular path of islam. Of course the guys where i'm from were going to enquire about his religion but he's not the type to preach.

You were wrong. You were never right on this matter and had no business assuming you knew anything regarding my anecdote apart from knowing nothing. I'm wrong about many things, probably you're a nicer person to have a discussion with than I'm assuming at this moment, it's ok to be wrong, accept it because you are. Have a nice day.
Foreigner4   
9 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

By better implementation of law and order.

like you said yourself, a criminal is a criminal and chooses to break laws despite there existence. People from 3rd world nations are more likely to come from a "lawless" society, therefore be a criminal through our interpretation of what a criminal is (and a violent one at that), how would you suggest a "better implementation of law and order" be implemented, be specific please.

Illogical.

i disagree be specific as to how you have come to such a conclusion.

Your statistics, words, are all fueled by racism.

if only they were my statistics but they in fact are not mine. Please be specific as to where you have found "racism" in what i've posted, if you can't I'll just have to dismiss your accusations as baseless and are probably coming from one whose argument is logically bankrupt.

Ofcourse I defend love, unity and prosperity.... if you are against those values....then we are two ends of a rope...and the ends will never meet.

Yikes this is some crazy sh!t I hope your ideas mature soon.

Then we must scan...check the documents etc. There are ways. The students I have come across were good people.

I almost forgot this gem.
Has it not occurred to you that despite documents being in order one could still quite easily abuse their status as a student? Then you follow it up with the silly logic that since the students you've come across were good people (how you decide this completely i can only hazard a guess but i'm guessing a deep conversation with you doesn't get one beyond the ankles) that this somehow is relevant. It's a strawman attempt at best.
Foreigner4   
9 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Its the failure of the government to control crime.

In the case of Scandanavian countries the failure began with allowing 3rd world immigrants into their country in the first place. However you fail to explain why you ignore this fact.

Criminals are criminals... lets not insert the race there

yet the violent crime increase is directly due to specific ethnicities and races. Why would you turn a blind eye to that?

The scandinaveans who give such figures might be either having a race issue... or just plain loosers without the ability to make right their own country.

Yeah the race issue would be that apparently one is far more likely to be a violent criminal under laws within the EU if one has immigrated into a Scandanvian country from a 3rd world nation. And how would you suggest they "make right their own country" then? If I read you correctly you're saying that a nation is a population of losers if they allow in 3rd world immigrants.

The immigration policies should give more priority to STUDENTS, ACADEMICS, ENTREPRENEURS, SCIENTISTS, ARTISTS etc. Not just to a mugger who claims he is a good man (just because he got money to show in the bank).

Students are often poorer...they dont have so much money to show.... but they are much more suitable to merge in a foreign land, contribute to its economy, and they are much better people as a whole.

Hasn't it occurred to you that criminals in fact do pretend to be students, seeking student visas so that they can "operate" abroad? It's the poor ones I'd be wary of, why import poverty into a nation? How can you possibly come up with a good reason to import poverty into a nation when accepting 3rd world immigrants is in fact importing not only poverty but also crime?

I'm under the impression you are posing as a complete troll or something much worse.
Foreigner4   
9 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

A pity that this person never bothered to study doctrine of his own original faith. This is the only way how could anybody find Islam morally superior...

Anyway, this says something about Islam, even moderate Muslim as you say don't waste an opportunity to convert non-Muslim person. This attitude is so missing in today's Europe among Christians.

Wow, You knew absolutely nothing about the individuals involved in the account I gave yet this did not prevent you from making comments regarding finer details you'd have know way of ascertaining. Truth is my friend was surprised that this guy converted and has never made any attempts whatsoever to convert anyone.

It's weird how I'm in a position which seems to have me defending muslims yet I'm only in a position assaulting faulty logic like yours and z_darius.

Let me put myself in a better position:

Lodz_The_Boat: How do you rationalize away or dismiss the figures from Scandinavia which show quite clearly that increased immigration from 3rd world countries leads to a very large increase in violent crime within the host nations?
Foreigner4   
8 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

but it's not ok for them

"them" being the muslims who you accuse of being part of the problem by not actively protesting against the extremists. You see you protest with words but according to your previous arguments, muslims themselves are part of the problem if they try to protest against "their own" with only words as well. If you find this hard to understand please don't ask me to re-explain this as I'm only using the double standard you've set out.

If you want my opinion on this topic overall, look at my first response on this thread, you'll probably find we agree on this more than not.
Foreigner4   
8 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Is he active against radical islamists? Or is he all just words?

probably no more active than you are. But he does have moderate approach and he is not afraid to say what he thinks regarding his moderate approach, what's more he definitely has affected his family regarding religion and at least one former catholic converted to islam due to the impression my friend's ethics and morals made on him.
Foreigner4   
8 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Lodz_The_Boat: How do you rationalize away or dismiss the figures from Scandinavia which show quite clearly that increased immigration from 3rd world countries leads to a very large increase in violent crime within the host nations?

just in case you missed it

z_darius
i guess we'll agree to disagree on that as i just don't agree with your line of reasoning. While you're at it you could say you or I are also to blame as (unless I'm wrong about you) we don't go protesting against the extremists or against their attempts to pervert western society.
Foreigner4   
8 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

The freedom you enjoy came from the blood of some of my own family members...ancestors. My very own...their blood rushes in my veins.

just a reality check but you do know that means absolutely nothing in an objective argument. You had diddly squat to do with what your ancestors accomplished so don't go trying to claim their glory and bravery as your own-it's an insult to them and an insult to sound reasoning.

That would be all muslims.

Don't be ridiculous you are painting all muslims with one brush, I gather you know very little about the difference between the various divisions within the muslim faith. However a very close friend of mine who is muslim once told me that muslims won't be happy until every one is muslim, but then they won't be happy until every one follows only one vein of islam.

Lodz_The_Boat: How do you rationalize away or dismiss the figures from Scandinavia which show quite clearly that increased immigration from 3rd world countries leads to a very large increase in violent crime within the host nations?
Foreigner4   
7 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

for the life of me, i can't understand why a government wouldn't just send illegal immigrants back or put them in labor camps unless they were trying to encourage illegal immigration (it certainly seems so) and I certainly can't understand why it isn't the common practice to deport an immigrant who is found guilty of committing a serious crime. I also cannot fathom how many western politicians sit by idly while business people from their nation profiteer off impoverished people abroad.

I think we should show 0 tolerance for accepting illegal immigrants, then we should show 0 tolerance for **** poor governing in general.
Foreigner4   
30 Aug 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

i'm going out on a limb and gonna guess that Poland is either a) a candidate country for you to immigrate to and bring your family to or b) you got a thing for Polish girls...
Foreigner4   
28 May 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

When he left he really did it like a pro, changed his number and flat and just plain vanished. I tend not to try to make friends with many expats here as they all just seem to leave in half a year anyhow.
Foreigner4   
25 May 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

i remember Jaimie he worked in Kato for a spell but then had enough of Profi and jetted to a different school-students loved him. Tall, thin, brown hair and i think one or two teeth out of place, is that him (don't think he ever did callan though, seemed the type to be dead set against that kind of thing)?
Foreigner4   
25 Apr 2009
Life / POLISH TEENAGERS TURN TO PROSTITUTION... [77]

Thanks wildrover. Seems odd still, i mean is that really representative of Poland (20%) or is this in a couple big cities? Honestly, as sad as it is I can't see much difference between this and what a lot of girls were doing when i went to highschool but I'll be the first to admit I don't have any firsthand account of this so maybe it's more blatant than it appears. I'm still not sure how empirical the evidence is though and it doesn't really mention what percentage of boys or girls are involved.
Foreigner4   
25 Apr 2009
Life / POLISH TEENAGERS TURN TO PROSTITUTION... [77]

is this about male and female teenagers? is this in poland or the u.k?

can i edit my last post? now that i look at it, it might read like i'm somehow interested in more than just the story....it just seems weird, the teen classes that i run seem to have nothing but good natured kids, maybe it's just that i'm in a small city so these displaced values are less, eh, glamorized...
Foreigner4   
10 Mar 2009
Life / What can citizens do to make Poland a better place to live? [125]

Er, he was right. If you hit something/someone while reversing, it is your fault.

unless that someone fails to attend to their personal safety to the point of being criminally negligent. I think the point is that pedestrians here often fail to observe their responsibility to their own safety. I know what you were getting at though but it's the internet and what better place for missing the obvious is there?