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Last name Sapeta [44]
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A person namef Oleg was trying to connect with other PF members who's last name is Sapeta. He speaks Russian and basic German only. Within minutes of him posting his original message here I translated it to English for the other Sapetas on this thread. So what did you do? You removed both his message AND my English translation to the random file. A thread so illogical and disorganized few people ever read it. Certainly no Sapetas will venture out there to look for possible deletions.
What you did is simply rude! A person is trying to connect but you shut him down because he speaks no English. That's ok I guess but when someone volunteers to translate his message and you throw it away - well that's just obnoxiously rude and very unwelcoming for a web site that's suppose to encourage cultural exchanges. Pretty sad admin...
I also translated a Polish note and I'd imagine you'll remove Aurelia's and my posts too. Very disappointing.
The language of the forum is English. Therefore, out with the language section posts should be made in English. I can't imagine why someone who only speaks Russian and German would even try to post here, there are numerous other forums/sites out there in those languages that could potentially help Oleg. Most likely his posting here was through a Google search of the name which produced this thread and his post was made with no consideration to the language of the forum. Or consideration of whether people reading his post could understand it.---------
A ja jestem Aurelia mieszkam w opolu,z tego co wiem wszystko zaczelo sie w radziechowach kolo zywca.jak chcesz mozemy pogadać.podaje gg 15906363
From Polish to English - for all you Polish-challenged Sapetas. ;)
"and I am Aurelia (Sapeta?), I live in Opole, from what I know it all started in Radziechowach near Żywce. If you want we can talk. My GG (gady gady) is 15906363.
(not sure where those cities are)
Where did Aurelia post that originally?"The language of the forum is English. Therefore, out with the language section posts should be made in English. I can't imagine why someone who only speaks Russian and German would even try to post here, there are numerous other forums/sites out there in those languages that could potentially help Oleg. Most likely his posting here was through a Google search of the name which produced this thread and his post was made with no consideration to the language of the forum. Or consideration of whether people reading his post could understand it."I understand the language of this forum is English but if a person doesn't speak it but still tries to connect is that so wrong? Being from Russia he could've even been related to a Polish family exiled to Russia way back when. Now he tries to connect, writes a message in German and Russian (all he knows) - I translate it to ENGLISH within minutes of him posting but it's still not good enough for you?
Really?
Here's the message you exiled to RT, was it really that wrong of him to try???
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"skysoulmate Edited by: skysoulmate Today, 00:57 #2479
oleg:
Meine Name ist auch Sapeta Oleg бшср bin geboren im Russland, wohne etzt im Deutschland................trawers2006rambler.ru
Вся моя семья и родственики из россии в польше на сколько знаю родствеников нет......
Just a basic translation on Oleg's behalf:
From German: My name is also Sapeta Oleg, I was born in Russia and today I live in Germany (followed by his incomplete email address? At (or @) is missing there somewhere).
From Russian: All my family and relatives from Russia (are?) in Poland, don't know how many relatives exist.
Not sure if I translated the Russian part correctly?"
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Also, did you get my PM? - I got an error message. So here it is:
My post # 37 in My last name is Sapeta was directed to you and all the mods.
The blind deletion (random thread is virtual deletion - no one reads that thread - illogical and unorganized) is very insulting. Do the mods even read the comments or do they just throw it away simply because it's not in English?
Let others help to translate when it makes sense - otherwise it's just an arbitrary English language apartheid here on PF. Not very welcoming to those who speak poor if any English for sure. That's sad and unbecoming to the Polish culture. What happened to the "extra plate" on the table for the unknown guest?
It's an old Polish tradition and maybe you should incorporate inclusivness into the PF a little more...
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aurelia:
A ja jestem Aurelia mieszkam w opolu,z tego co wiem wszystko zaczelo sie w radziechowach kolo zywca.jak chcesz mozemy pogadać.podaje gg 15906363
From Polish to English - for all you Polish-challenged Sapetas. ;)
"and I am Aurelia (Sapeta?), I live in Opole, from what I know it all started in Radziechowach near Żywce. If you want we can talk. My GG (gady gady) is 15906363.
(not sure where those cities are)
"Where did Aurelia post that originally?"She posted it right here on THIS thread. Again, within minutes it was translates to ENGLISH.
Yes you got the error message because Oleg only made one contribution to the forum (surprise, surprise).
English is the language. If he wanted help in Russian or German he would have got it from those language using web sites. As was said before his posting here would be from a random Google search. You can look yourself to see where else he might have posted.
Aurelia - still can't find it either here or in Random.Yes you got the error message because Oleg only made one contribution to the forum (surprise, surprise).
Error message? If you mean error message when I was trying to send a PM it had nothing to do with it. My internet connection timed out (was in a coffee shop while posting from lap top).
English is the language. If he wanted help in Russian or German he would have got it from those language using web sites. As was said before his posting here would be from a random Google search. You can look yourself to see where else he might have posted.
Of course he only made one contribution. He probably typed his own name in the google search and found this site. That's GREAT and you should be excited people from all over the world are finding this site instead of being paranoid.
Again, reading his post it's very obvious the guy simply wanted to hear more from people with his last name. You make him out to be some kind of freak.
When I posted a message in English on lotnictwo.net.pl in English because my question was "too complicated" for my limited Polish someone immediately translated it to Polish. It was NOT deleted, neither was I made out to be some kind of freak because I couldn't speak Polish well enough. Instead they viewed me as someone they had a bond with and helped me out.
This is no different. This person somehow shares a bond with people many think is a Polish last name. He does NOT speak English but someone (me) helped him to translate his message to English - not days later but minutes after he posted. Even that wasn't good enough for you - that's just ignorant and paranoid - you view everyone who does not speak English here as a fraudulent poster -don't even bother trying to read the guy's message.
There's a thread about racism in Poland. YOU (whoever removed my translation) are exhibiting those traits right now although ironically it's because the person does not speak English - on a Polish forum. Go figure...
Aurelia - still can't find it either here or in Random.
Well, right after I translated Oleg's post I "quoted" Aurelia's post to do the same. As soon as I clicked "Post Message" her original post was gone.
Your "delete" staff is fast, what can I tell you?
Have no idea where her original post ended up but it was definitely here a first. Oleg's post first then her (that's why I quoted her on post #37 - to translate).
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Anyways - back to Sapetas of the world. Just write in English for God's sake or you'll go straight to hell (= Random Thread here)