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Olaf   
12 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

They infringe on my right to breathe clean air

- only the scale of it is different. Looking at a bigger picture you should go and sue heavy industry companies. Don't compare traffic and using cars to smoking in this context as this makes the argument illogical.

So you support letting the market decide about the engines which people pollute with?

- illogical conclusion, sorry. I know you can make a real argument for smoking so stop making wrong conclusions.
Olaf   
11 Mar 2010
Off-Topic / ANYONE HEAR A STRANGE NOISE IN WARSAW....? [45]

Did anyone hear a loud whooshing noise in the early hours in Warsaw , followed by a high pitched squeek , then a thud , and lots of bubbling noises...?

Dude! Seriously?
Olaf   
10 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

invade my rights when they drive in public areas

I really do not see a reasonable point here, sorry. At what point they invade your rights? What rights? Breathing your air?!
It truely is ridiculous to use so large cars (usually carrying one person inside), [b]but [/b]I guess that the petrol prices will regulate that sooner or later...
Olaf   
10 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

Check this out:
buzzfeed.com/henrymichel/new-french-anti-tobacco-ad-2n6
It subconsciously changes the perspective of how smokers are percieved:))

a god-given right to go any place he wants

- well I do have such right. Gods-given actually:)). I am only not allowed to enter Area 51 as far as I know.

He's as bad as the smoker who deliberately goes to non-smoking venues and then smokes in them.

Am I really THAT bad:)).
Not quite - I don't go to places where people smoke and then demand to clear the atmosphere and stop smoking. I agree to that when I enter a place! I only wish they were more civilised i.e. not smokey, and you can do it by putting good smoke absorbers or this unpopular ban. I see your points, really. But since smokers are very subjective I'll keep my right do do the same and be subjective too. So do not imply such things, ok?

Following your logics, smokers do invade my rights when they smoke in private areas. Can non-smokers do that? Nope. So not to abuse ANYONE'S rights it is reasonable to me to regulate by law (to some extent) the places where people can and cannot smoke.

...or I can be around people who smoke Camels, Z_Darius :))) - that's a good one. Check my link - there is Lucky Strike ad too.

cheers
Olaf   
8 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

It's trivial if exposure is minimal, of course.

If.

Ok, but when you're at a pub it's far from minimal.

I'd really be more supporting of private rights of bar owners, but can anyone suggest a better solution? Since I don't see one, I am for this one. I don't feel I should only have an option to stay at home (this would contribute to lower income of pub owners:)! ) or stay in thick smoke. Maybe it'll be best to install a good, efficient ventillation where possible.
Olaf   
8 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

Second hand smoke has been proven time and time again to have a trivial affect on peoples health. You are just annoyed by it, which is fair enough.

Well, this report puts smoking on the 3rd position, but it is one that is caused deliberately. Sure ischaemic heart diseases can be caused by bad cholesterol levels but ALSO by smoking. That elevates smoking in that ranking. I could go on, but I know that you know smoking is bad:) for health and there's no point in arguing it is not actually so bad, don't you think?

I'll give you a final argument: it stinks! :))

you're not really spending much time with them anymore, and you might as well have gone to the non smoking place to begin with

Tried that. Well, not my problem to have to stand in freezing weather in order to smoke. I'll be waiting inside and having funn in meantime. Way better than having them blow their smoke on me.
Olaf   
6 Mar 2010
Language / What are some loanwords in the Polish language? [24]

I had once in my hands a dictionary of loanwords from Arabic. Very enriching reading.
Generally most words beginning with al- come from Arabic. Algebra, alcohol, some geographical names (Gibraltar from gabal at-Tarik ) and cities (Alhambra, Spain), algorythm, tarrif/taryfa, hazard, calliber and loads of others
Olaf   
6 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

Where did I say that it was closed down due to smoke, Olaf? At most, I implied it but there were other material concerns at play.

Listen, I'm not always trying to prove my point, this being an example. You implied it and that was what I concluded from your post, bearing in mind the relevancy to the topic. And I was asking further that's all. Where did I say you are wrong etc. :))

According to everybody I've spoken to, the crash has been milder than those of the 90s, the 80s or the 70s but far far far more pubs have closed.

Maybe it was a perticularly clear sky and they wanted to see the stars. Every country has its customs. I wouldn't be sitting outside in freezing cold, anyway not when I went out to have fun. Or maybe it wasn't so cold. But that's just me:)
Olaf   
5 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

Republics aren't democracies.

I see your point, but what then is a democratic republic?

Check "Going home" thread, from post #22 on :)

Yes, I've checked:). It is very interesting, thanks.
BTW: the name spells with either f or v, more often f I guess, but there are also other spelling versions of it.

Alcohol and fatty foods are more of a health risk that smoking

I don't think so. 70.000 people die every year of smoking-related deseases.

I agree that it's possible to manipulate statistics/surveys. But I also wouldn't undermine this one. I assume it was done professionally i.e. objectively (just my hope).

And about fatty foods and alcohol: both these things are not affecting other people as smoking is. Paraphrasing the perfect metaphore put before in the thread: Cigarettes create smoke, beer creates urine. If someone smokes, and this smoke gets to some non-smoking bloke sitting in the cafe and drinking his beer, should he then go and **** on you? Silly, brutal, shocking but gives a perspective, doesn't it.

Do feel free to explain why more than 50 pubs a week in Enland have been going out of business since the smoking ban.

I can try but do some hard work first:
1. When was the ban imposed?
2. Is it a total ban or similar to the one passed yesterday evening in Poland (a "ban" that gives even more freedom than now actually, e.g. smoking in schools, hospitals etc.)?

3. 50 pubs in England? If you count how many there are being opened at the same time then maybe there's a balance.

Why would smokers stop going to pubs? Why should they?? They will just go out every now and then for a smoke, that's it. Not much harm and the non-smoking company is happy too.
Olaf   
5 Mar 2010
UK, Ireland / Polish people in the UK using the English version of their name? [56]

referred to as Agnus for short

Hopefully not pronounced with silent 'g' ???

The tendency to use other language's equivalents of first names is rather old-fashioned.

One of my favourites are: German name Ruprecht and Swedish: Björn.
Olaf   
5 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

segregation

- harsh word, but an addict is an addict, maybe should be separated from the rest especially in restaurants etc.

The restaurant was closed down.

- I really think the reason for closing down was somewhat different than this.

Are you talking about a majority of people in the EU, in Poland, Students, pub patrons?

- majority of people, surveyed in Poland. Maybe it was a street survey - I could find it for you if you want...

Depending on what you're selling, who you're selling it to, and how your selling it will get you different results. The comments in the forum are interesting...

Hmmm.Can you elaborate on this please?

pubs will then turn into private clubs

- I'm happy to treat this "ban" as a kind of government's health policy. If bar proprietors decide to have a smoking bar, then I really don't mind.
Olaf   
5 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

join the fascist anti-private property alliance

Yees! Do that. We are planning to take over the control of the world and you would be a great asset to our alliance:)))

Anyway, if it is not a "majority position" then why according to surveys 80% people support the ban? Democracy is unfortunately about majorities (or false-majorities) deciding about all...
Olaf   
5 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

That's true. But I see it a step forward, not sideways or back. It has to be done, and not all places on Rynek are over 100sq metres. Those bigger ones, if they think of the market and respect their customers should've done it long time ago by themselves. Now this regulation will help them. I know anti-ban people here are going to object strongly after this post, but for me examples of other countries that imposed a similar ban is good. Anyway it is not as rigid as in other countries.

Check out this article:

and other sources in English:

"As publicans and anti-smoking campaigners battle over alleged extensions to the public ban on smoking, it's commerce vs. health in what is likely to see Poland become the 11th EU member state to ban smoking in bars and restaurants."
Olaf   
4 Mar 2010
Life / Do you think a smoking ban would be a good thing in Polish restaurants and Bars? [217]

just vote with their wallet

I do not believe in voting, however, it has just been approved by the Polish parliament that THE SMOKING BAN IS INTRODUCED.
Well, addicts, you shall adjust now to the majority.

... but it is not a total ban like originally proposed, so everyone will have it their way...
Olaf   
3 Mar 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

so if a family of 4

Why then plan 2 children if one cannot afford to raise them? Goracy Kubek diet??? :)) Besides, both parents working will actually provide sufficient income. Should plan accordingly. You just made an example, and it can be like that often, but it is not a rule.
Olaf   
3 Mar 2010
News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

If you are baptised into a Christian religion you are a Christian, you cant be a fake Christian. You don't have to believe in the religion anymore but you are still a Christian unless you renounce it.

If by renouncing you mean apostasia then ok, but by any way it is not possible to CANCEL baptism. Anyway it's not like it is a burden, but why the heck do it to completly unaware babies, that cannot make a conscious decision, why not wait till they can reason? Oh, I know! Because a dezen or two of indoctrination started from the earliest days can soften anyone and make pron to ANY bulls**t you can make up!

God but not in religion

- its connected, or you create your own lifestyle on it and that is where you can say there's as many religions as people on this black hole of existence we call Earth.

You can follow what Jesus and the other prophets were supposed to have said without following the religions.

I don't think you can. No one knows anymore who said what. Many translations, mistakes, cut out parts etc. just because they were not so convenient with "the official" doctrine. Why is Judas book not included? And as far as I recall there were some others - and no, I did not watch DaVinci Code:). I read Judas's book for example.

having no religion does not cause problems.

Bull's eye! We have examples of countries based on religion and I reckon none of you would like the benefits and level of freedom offered in Saudi Arabia or Taliban Afghanistan etc.

different religious symbol to be displayed that should be displayed too.

Why put any symbol? Do we need a parade of symbols? If you have it in your heart why you need it on every wall etc?

I guess we've exploited the subject.
Olaf   
2 Mar 2010
Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Why giving net amount? It changes depending on many factors and it is easy to know how much is net from a gross number. I'd say only blue collar people use net terms only when talking about earnings, as it is easier for them.

About the teacher: she should earn more - ask her how many hours she is working. My friend in similar position earns >3000 but works hard.

The average may be confusing but it is stathistics. Sure many of our friends (or us) around don't reach the average which sounds depressing. But to understand it you must check the method of preparing this stathistics. Or treat it as irrelevant:)
Olaf   
2 Mar 2010
Travel / What should I wear in winter in Poland? [29]

Merino wool is the best for really cold conditions. And real sweaters, not cotton, but woolen (mix with nylon, viscose or other also). Polartec fibre also good but not elegant.