Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

Well Polish jokes like Kielbasa jokes or Pierogi jokes were made up by Polish people. But not the Subhuman Intelligence Jokes about Polish people.

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Its not true.

Beelzebub hates Polish people so of course he's going to say that.

People who hate any group - such as Blacks, Italians, Irish - say that everyone against them.

Beelzebub is not even of Polish ancestry. He lived in Poland for a couple months and so he thinks he's some big expert on Poland. In general the only Americans who like racist jokes against Poles (or any ethnicity) are low class Americans like Beelzebub.

Origin of Subhuman Intelligence Jokes about Polish People

polishforums.com/off-topic-lounge-47/origin-polish-jokes-nazi-propagan da-42309/

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99% of the non-Poles who tell Poles that they should be able to "laugh at themselves with Subhuman intelligence jokes" are the first to complain if a degrading joke is made about their ethnic background.

News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Great article Dariusz.

When countries allow too many immigrants in especially those that just try to go on the welfare system like in Norway, then those countries lose their national character and eventually stop being those countries. Countries such as Sweden, France and Britain are starting to have problems with foreigners coming in and showing loyalty FIRST to their own ethnicity instead of to the country they live in.

For example I saw a show on "60 Minutes" here where Muslims living in PARIS France said "they don't live on French land - they live ON MUSLIM LAND". This ethno-centric attitude of immigrants coming into a country NEVER helps the nation that was kind enough to allow them in.

We here in the US are trying to stop all the crazy immigration going on in here especially illegal immigration.

Poland suffered greatly in the past because it thought it would be a nice guy and allow all types of people into the country hundreds of years ago. All this did was lead to ethno-centric fifth columns throughout Poland that undermined Poland and contributed to its collapse. Hopefully Poland has learned from its past of allowing unchecked immigration into its borders, which is being repeated in most Western European countries today.

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For someone like you who thinks he's such an expert on "stereotypes about Poles" can you explain to me how people in the US who

-never lived in Poland
-never met Polish people
-didn't know people who knew Polish people

Had the stereotype in their mind that you love to push, that Poles have subhuman intelligence?

How did they get that stereotype in their mind if they had NO connection to Polish people at all?

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Well I pretty much told you I am a Polish American when I said I see things from the Polish American standpoint.

Dude you're not even of Polish ancestry that's why you have no problem knocking all things Polish.

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Yeah you're just so brilliant.

If you look back at my first post where you responded and started to "mess with me" as you would put it, it was a relatively short and mild post about the relationship of Hollywood-NBC-TV with the Polish people. Why on earth would that bother you so much? Where was the "ranting" there? Was I cursing or something?

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That's not what I meant.

What did you mean by Polish Americans are "WORSE THAN" Poles in Poland or are "compensating for something"?

Once again there you go always using negative innuendo against the Polish people.

Frankly I doubt you lived in Poland for any great length of time.

You probably went there for a few weeks or so with a negative disposition to begin with and that's why you're always knocking Poland. You were just looking to find fault with Poland.

Just looking at how you write about Poland, WHY in Gods name would a guy like YOU live there???

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But I know more then you about being a Polish American and the relationship between the Hollywood TV media and Polish Americans/Poland.

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What does this mean?

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No I never lived in Poland. My viewpoint here has been from the Polonia-Polish American viewpoint.

My focus has been with the Hollywood TV media relationship with Polish-Americans.

And with all due respect, not that this is you, but there are quite a few people that go to Poland, and even have lived in Poland but only look to find fault with it.

I have heard about people that talk about the ills of Poland, they go there and sure enough they come back talking about the ills of Poland.

I have heard from some people I know, like an Asian American college student I know, who said he was wondering what Poland was like for better or for worse, and that he wouldn't sugarcoat his experience there to me even though we're friends and when he came back, he said overall he had one of the best times in his life there in addition to other European countries he visited.

Feedback / The image of Poland according to PolishForums [90]

You say: I'm overreacting? I'm ridiculously sensitive? Like Poles are always "overreacting" and are "ridiculously sensitive" according to you? LOL!!!

WHERE???????

Where do you read in the newspapers that Poles are "always overreacting" and "ridiculously sensitive"??

Every day I read American newspapers and I'm always reading about certain ethnic groups day after day week after week complaining about what they feel is prejudice and ethnic slurs against them. There are groups that go on and on and on and on about prejudice against them thier victimhood and believe me THEY ARE NOT POLISH.

The problem is the Poles have underreacted for far too long to Polish-Bashing.

If you can show me newspaper stories of Polish people "overreacting" "being overly sensitive" etc. Please show me by all means. I just don't believe it.

And don't blame me for all your condescending comments about Polish people before when I was nowhere around.

Feedback / The image of Poland according to PolishForums [90]

Outrage posts??? Me??

Really??

All I did was answer the questions from some other Poles as to where subhuman intelligence jokes about Poles came from.

So you think your messing with me by telling me these so called Polish Jokes?

Very interesting.

Indeed you were messing with me and other Poles by saying these Polish Jokes.

But I want to commend you in your honesty in that YES the purpose of Polish Jokes were to "mess with" and insult Polish people. So so much for this nonsense about "nothing is meant by them" blah blab blah. Everything is meant by them. That's why you said them.

And WHY do you take such personal offense at my pointing out the origin of Polish jokes? Its obvious you don't like Polish people, so wouldn't you want a Polish person sounding as you say "drunk" a "lunatic" "raging". Those are all negative descriptions. Aren't those the ones you want to characterize Poles as having?

I've read quite a few of your posts and they're all put downs of Polish people. If you think I make Polish people look bad, I would think you would want a Pole like me to "rage on"

Feedback / The image of Poland according to PolishForums [90]


How old are you? 9?

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Yes

There is another group of people that come on this Polish forums site.

Non-Polish people who like insulting and degrading Polish people.

This Polish forum site is kind of like Poland hundreds of years ago when Poland in its high mindedness allowed just about everyone into Poland including those who used and abused Poland.

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

I'm just curious.

Would you go and tell black people that they should learn to laugh at untrue black jokes that blacks feel are offensive to them, like jokes about "blacks being monkeys" or "blacks having subhuman intelligence"? Or untrue jokes about the color of black people's skin?

Would you tell Jewish people to laugh at jokes that aren't true, like jokes that portray Jews as being ugly and evil people?

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

beelzebub

You're just an Anti-Polish Bigot.

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You need to turn in your Nazi card its lame.

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Why should we Poles laugh at Nazi subhuman intelligence jokes that have only one purpose? To degrade and dehumanize us?

First lets stop being so politically correct here. The are not "Polish Jokes" but Subhuman intelligence slurs against Polish people.

After many years of NBC-TV and Hollywood attacking Polish people with these ethnic slurs, it lead to violence and hatred against Polish Americans in the 60's and 70's.

Polish Americans had their houses vandalized, cars smashed, and then they would be called up with prank phone calls with idiots like yourself telling them the anti-Polish hate jokes that they saw before on NBC-TV or some other anti-Polish HATE NETWORK

Would Black people tolerate this hate-through-humor? Would Jews?

Why should Polish people be good sports about being attacked with ethnic slurs that are BIG NAZI LIES???

You love Hitler?

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

What do you call "beelzebub"?

A racist Anti-Polish Nazi Bigot

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

Because you have powerful forces in Hollywood and the TV media (Leftist media) that have a special hatred for Polish people that they do not have for other ethnic groups.

No ethnic group has been as maliciously attacked by the power of TV Networks like Polish people have been.

The ORIGIN OF POLISH JOKES (subhuman intelligence jokes) in the US, is NBC-TV.

Before NBC-TV launched them around 1965, the only jokes about Polish people were kielbasa or pierogi jokes.

AFTER some months of NBC-TV INTRODUCING (and pushing) these hate jokes about Polish people into the public in the 60's, Polish jokes all of a sudden BECAME "popular" in the 60's.

For many years after that, NBC-TV and then the other networks would be incorporating these racist Polish jokes into their TV shows because of their hatred for Polish people.

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Sokrates
You're boring and uneducated, Watzenrode did not work with the Teutonic Knights because they wanted to control his fief and thats all there is to it, he was only an ally of Poland by association.

Baloney.

You're uneducated about the tremendous appeal the German Martin Luther had with ethnic Germans in this borderline area of north east Germany/Poland which overwhelmingly went Lutheran/Anti-Polish Catholic. To suggest that a so called "100% ETHNIC German" like Copernicus' "German" Uncle like Watzenrode would not go along with this appeal because of "control of his fief" is silly since other Germans controlling fiefs went along with Martin Luther and Tuetonic Knights. It was a very glorious thing for Germans in this area to go along with the Tuetonic Knights against Poland and the Catholic Church.

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Kopernik was part German, he was definitely more Polish and felt Polish given that he chose his allegiance to Poland but his mother was undeniably German.

But Germans during this time period and area where Copernicus lived were acting on their German ethnic consciousness being fueled by the German nationalist Martin Luther and his Anti-Catholic Protestant teachings and hence following the teachings of their fellow German. So its a COINCIDENCE that Copernicus' "German" mother and Uncle would resist this very tempting German Marthin Luther when virtually all other Germans in the area were being swept up with his Anti-Catholic teachings?? LOL

Come on that's like saying our German blogger pal "Bratwurst" would side with Poles over Germans LOL

Ever heard of "Lizard Confederation"? Germans in the area were fed up with the Teutonic Order (though admittedly not all).

Lizard Confederation was a group that was prominent many years BEFORE Copernicus. Germans having loyalty to Poland OVER Germany/Tuetonic Knights was the exception and not the rule. Especially when you have a popular German like Martin Luther whipping up Protestantism/German pride. Its no accident Martin Luther PUSHED to have the New Testament put in GERMAN.

"On one side you have medieval nazis who squeeze you out of money and healthy kids for their military, on the other you have a rich benevolent and powerfull kingdom of Poland who's kicking the Teutonic Knights all over the place, who's side are you going to choose?"

Yeah that's a nice cliche but you keep dismissing the POWERFUL influence of the German Martin Luther and how his presence and teachings were RESONATING STRONGLY with virtually all ETHNIC Germans in that area. Yeah I guess the fact Copernicus' "German" mother and Uncle not only did NOT get caught up with all that Martin Luther Pro-German/Protestant Eurphoria AND URGED Copernicus to fight it, is ONE BIG COINCIDENCE LOL

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Sokrates,

When I was referring to people having German names not necessarily being German, I was referring to Copernicus' "German" uncle which Germans keep referring to as proof Copernicus is part German. This "German" uncle Lucas Watzenrode lived in such a way that was very un-German. NO Germans ever had his loyalty to Poland OVER GERMANY. Also it was not uncommon for Poles to speak German back then just like today (more German is spoken in Poland today then most other countries).

Copernicus' "German" uncle was a die hard Catholic, a die hard defender of Poland, pushed for Copernicus to be educated in Polish schools (NOT GERMAN schools) and he defied the teachings of the German Martin Luther's Protestantism which most Germans in that area and time were gravitating to right and left.

So out of nowhere this "German" Watzenrode decided he would buck the grain against virtually all other Germans in that area and era? Ridiculous. This "GERMAN" would URGE his nephew Copernicus to fight against what most of the other Germans in the area were gravitating to like their fellow German Martin Luther's Anti-Catholic teachings and the Tuetonic Knights.

So you think there were many Germans (like Watzenrode) fighting against other Germans on BEHALF of POLAND???? ARE YOU SERIOUS??

The amount of times historically Germans fought against other Germans/Teutonic Knights ON BEHALF OF POLAND you could probably count on one hand.

Even the German Martin Luther referred to Copernicus as a Pole albeit in a deragatory way. Among the many complaints Martin Luther had against the Catholic Church was the "abnormal teachings" of this "foolish Pole" Copernicus. The Catholic Church in the beginning did not condemn Copernicus' theory of the Earth revolving around the Earth. It was Martin Luther and his fellow Germans and Teutonic Knights who vocally condemned the Catholic Church for accepting this Catholic Copernicus "controversial theory". The Catholic Church in trying to maintain credibility then condemned Copernicus' work.

Also you attack me for saying that "Copernicus going to Polish and and then Italian schools makes him Polish". So you're trying to tell me that Germans who then (like now) were hyper ethnic conscious about being German, would CHOOSE to go to Polish schools in mass over German schools? You think it was common for Germans to choose to go to Polish schools? And it was Copernicus' "German" uncle who urged Copernicus to go to Polish schools over German schools.

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This book is a good source on Copernicus:

tinyurl/y98cwkwm

This book like so many other books on Copernicus makes two key points

A) Copernicus' Uncle Lucas Watzenrode the alleged "German" uncle went to the few Polish schools there were at the time and recommended Copernicus go to Polish schools (in the beginning of the book)

B) Copernicus' "German" uncle also wanted Copernicus to fight like hell against the Teutonic Knights/Germans that were invading Poland and pushing protestantism. Most Germans in the area GRAVITATED to prostentantism in that area and Martin Luther. So its very UN-German for his "German" uncle to ACT AGAINST GERMAN interests if he was German.

There are about three million German citizens in Germany who speak perfect German and have German names including "Watzenrode" but they are of Polish ancestry.

So just because someone has a German name then that makes them German? Many Jews have German names but they don't consider themselves German. They consider their ethnicity Jewish.

The great English writer Joseph Conrad doesn't have a Polish name but we know he is of Polish ancestry.

Copernicus lived the way many Poles did. He studied at Polish and then Italian schools which is what mostly Poles did at that time. Germans did not do that.

Germans also didn't fight the Tuetonic (German) Knights, push staunch Catholicism and keep trying to rally other Poles to fight for Poland.

Copernicus' ethnicity is definitely 100% Polish.

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Copernicus' ethnicity is definitely Polish since his lifestyle and beliefs were much more in line with being a Pole then a German.

All of Copernicus' family were die hard Catholics and hated and resisted the Teutonic Knights. Copernicus and his family would not have done that if they were German.

Also Martin Luther hated Copernicus for being Polish and disparaged him for being Polish.

Even Copernicus' enemies knew Copernicus was Polish.

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Germans of 2009 are not any kind of culprits unless they are affiliated with Neo-Nazi groups.

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Well I was only responding to your cocky answer on #170. Giving you a taste of your own medicine.

By the way NOBODY I know tells me any Polish jokes (or really any ethnic or racial jokes) because they know better. I have always found that when people simply know that they are saying something bigoted, they stop. Just like I wouldn't tolerate somebody demonizing Germans of today who are not affiliated with Neo-Nazis.

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

So I guess you feel you have to "keep an eye on those Poles"? LOL

Why would you be interested in a topic on Anti-Polish prejudice anyway?

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Well to be frank with you I might have liked hearing a joke about a terrorist nation or a nation that's against America. I usually just like laughing at people who are Osama Bin Laden like or Nazis since they obviously are bad people. I like laughing at bad people not good people.

But I can see the Nazi German is coming out of you.

You must love that "Schaudenfreude" which is the German word that means taking delight in negative things happening to other people.