History / Is Vlad the Impaler or Vlad Tepes seen as a hero in Poland? [25]


No, he's not really viewed as anything....other than a prince from another country.

News / Poles most worried about independence in 23 years - poll [8]


+1


+1


+100


+1,000,000

I would like to know who was behind this 'survey' and who the respondents were.

Was it held at some PiS meeting? Was it held in a Church gathering in Turon where people are notoriously paranoid?

Was it carried out by an independent , objective body (probably not) or by a group who had in its interest to paint possible impending invading foreigners (not going to actual happen) in a bad light (more likely). Would this survey have anything possibly to do with the right's and far-right's desire to pick up some badly needed seats in the recent European elections?

I think we have our answer.

We should all become more aware and question what the mass media (tries to) spoon feed us.

No details are given other than it's a survey of only 1028 people in a country of 38 million people. Well under even 0.0001% of the population.

Scaremongering nonsense.

Life / Anti establishment Polish artist Pawel Kuczynski [20]

They're very very good. Good find Wroclaw Boy

Travel / Driving in Poland, are there any rules at all? [149]

Hopefully so.

One thing you don't see here are tv ads about drink/dangerous driving.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6YEoYGArMas

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vBsQc0a_8sE

I think they're quite good at getting people to face the problems. Also back home testing drivers for alcohol is far more prevalent which is obviously helpful.

It's weird I don't know why more isn't done about it.
Are other EU countries as lackadaisical as Poland in this regard?

Travel / Driving in Poland, are there any rules at all? [149]


It really makes little difference it it's number 1 or number 2 or number 3.
People drive very dangerously here and have no respect for other drivers or the rules of the road....and drink driving is still a massive issue.

Work / Salary and cost of living information - Krakow [257]

They certainly are, but if they offer you only 2000zl you will struggle to live a good existence in Poland. Sure you'll survive on pasta and tuna, but you won't enjoy a good standard of living. If I was you and they only offered me that much I wouldn't be bothered moving.

Work / Salary and cost of living information - Krakow [257]

Oh God no, that would be a terrible wage.
I wouldn't even dream of moving to Poland for less than 5000zl per month.
Rent is around 1000zl alone, plus bills, electricity, heating, gas, phone, tv....around another 1000zl.

Travel / Travelling to Wroclaw from Bratislava ( safety advice needed ) [12]


It's fine now, it's a brand new station with plenty of security walking around and kicking out homeless people.
You won't be troubled.

Travel / Driving in Poland, are there any rules at all? [149]


haha, yea me two, I've got 2 hurleys in the boot now in case anyone tries something on me.
Got a dash camera too.


Yea, that;s true, but tbh I never look at street names anyway. I prob could name 5 streets in Kato, I learn the streets by what shops/pubs/etc are on them...I know it's weird but I've always done it that way :)

AFAIK it's totally legal.. I think it's because the app (business running the app I mean) doesn't actually give the locations but the users add them as they see them, and then the next driver along that stretch of road confirms it or wipes it off.

I know they are certainly illegal in France and all GPS devices come without traffic light locations, maybe there's a French version, but I dunno.

Travel / Driving in Poland, are there any rules at all? [149]


Same here, pretty annoying. Once some clown came down a hill at speed and got tangled in my dog's leash. Poor dog when flying but the sucker flew even further and then got an earful from me, the look on his face when I laid into him in ENglish was priceless :D


I think CBs are quite popular here, you can see loads of cars on the road with the extra aerial for them.
Don't see the point in them myself, the Police can easily hear the conversations....people have codes for things like speed traps, one used to be 'tedy-bears with guns'.

But with the Yanosik app I don't see the point in them anymore.
It's a great app, displays all cameras and even patrols, both on iOS and Android
yanosik.pl/wybierz-wersje

Travel / Driving in Poland, are there any rules at all? [149]


I wouldn't class Poland as a western country.

Most Poles have a blatant disregard for road safety. Poland has the highest roads deaths in the EU. It has one of the highest rates of drink-driving too.

It's not a safe country to drive in, so always pay attention when on the road...........especially now that summer has kicked off and the roads are full of moronic cyclists.

From my own experience I've never once been stopped by the Police here and I drive a lot, they don't seem to care about enforcing road rules and Poles sure as hell don't seem to care about following them.

News / Polish Pope, John Paul II has been canonized today [with John 23rd] [85]


You might want to go back and read the 1st page of this thread.


It wasn't kept from him, he knew well enough but was clever enough to not sign anything, he got his underlings to put pen to paper.

It really makes no difference if you accept it or not, it happened on his watch so he's responsible.
Fuzzy used a good analogy on the 1st page about a company boss.

News / Polish Pope, John Paul II has been canonized today [with John 23rd] [85]


What a ridiculous, close-minded attitude to have.
Are you accusing me of 'attacking' the former pope because he was Polish? That's just plain silly.
I couldn't give a fiddlers where he was born (not that he had much of a choice in it even).


I suspect that most people when presented with proof would accept their faults. Everyone knows that King was mad about women and had no qualms cheating on his wife. Gandhi was supposed to have kind of strange sexual undertakings too.


Sure, Rolf Harris was a hero of mine when I was a kid, loved his tv shows and his books. Now it looks like he too was a kiddie fiddler, I will certainly not be defending him.

It's difficult to admit being wrong and that our heroes weren't the people we thought they were, but when solid proof is shown then it really should be accepted. To defend a person in light of that proof on the basis that they were born in the same country as you is a bit daft.

News / Polish Pope, John Paul II has been canonized today [with John 23rd] [85]


You shouldn't take it personally, we've shown that his hands were dirty. You need to accept it.

Why does some Poles take it so personally when another Pole they've never met or known is criticised?
If the man had been German, Icelandic, Nigerian, Fijian etc. he'd still would've been a pedophile facilitator. Just coz he was born in Poland means nothing.

News / Polish Pope, John Paul II has been canonized today [with John 23rd] [85]


Well said, this thread was decent on the first page, gone to the dogs now.

News / Jaruzelski dead / his legacy in Poland [116]

Still waiting on the history lesson......

I google image'd him and there's a great one of him and Fidel Castro.
That was probably a good party. Vodka and cigars!

But seriously, who the hell was/is he?
His Wikipedia page is far too long for a Friday evening, anyone got a TL:DR version?

News / Jaruzelski dead / his legacy in Poland [116]

Can we get a small history lesson on the chap? I've never heard of him.
And why is opinion divided?

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]


I liked you better when you were under my ignore list.

Many of us have asked for that to come back, but the request has fallen on deaf ears.


Neither think nor feel, I know for certain. You can find out by searching for an answer to a problem. You'll more than likely be brought to a website/blog than a forum.

Forum attendance is down across the board. People prefer to go to forums that have a specific theme, this one is quite general and has a small target audience. Not many Poles are going to bother reading an English forum about Poland since they don't speak the language to a high level.


What a complete load of tosh.


As Socrates said a long, long time ago.


I would certainly hope that 50% of young people lack testosterone.....the female ones at least.


No, that doesn't cut it. There's no reason why people shouldn't be civil to each other.
Why for years have you constantly allowed racists/sexist/xenophobic language on this forum?
Is being a racist/xenophobe/sexist


?
I certainly hope you don't think so.


I don't have a FB account, it's a pointless website.


In the vain hope that something interesting might be said. I'm usually disappointed. Lately I've only either tried to help new posters with questions about moving to this dump or the odd comment here and there.


Maybe you don't, but if you show me that I'm wrong I've no problem admitting it. How else are we supposed to learn?

Admitting you're wrong and learning from it is basically what makes us conscious beings and different from animals that just live on instinct.


Well that's clearly not true and just goes to show that you are in no way familiar with the vast majority of forums on the web. To stay relevant with the modern web you need to keep abreast with developments and trends, if you don't you'll get left behind.........as this site already has. The best thing to do would be to try a revamp with better functionality to try and attract more users.

Free software that's from this century is widely available.


Ah Harry, come on this site would be nothing without its treasured troll accounts.

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]


Yawn
Always trying to stir sh!t.

Whatever.


Yea, that has very little to do with going back and editing something. By definition you can't edit before something is posted.


No, it's definitely not. It's pretty rank as modern forums go.

Clean design has been the vision of the last few years.

For example:
forums.digitalpoint.com
flickr.com/help/forum/fr-fr
windowsforum.com/threads/ati-game-launching-tool-for-custom-profiles.47689

It's a relic of Web 1.0, the non-existent functionality and dreary design highlights that.

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]


From a design and functionality perspective it certainly is :)

There's plenty of free software out there that would make a huge improvement to the functionality of this site. It would even help Admin to get more hits and to appear better on page searches.


That's a weird and way of thinking.
Why is it your aim to make people look stupid?
Can't we all just at least try to get along?
Like I've said before, people here just aren't nice and it's no surprise to see that posters aren't exactly flocking here.

If you quoted someone's


then obviously if they did edit it later then your quote would show they tried to pull a fast one.


That would work, not on this site though. I doubt that the 1990s code this site is based on allows for such a function to be added, a web developer would be required to be hired to built it...........and that ain't gonna happen.

A 'like' or 'thanks' button would be good too, so if you agree with a poster you can hit on that.......of if they give an answer/info that you're looking for you can 'thank/like' it.

Again the code of this site more than likely wouldn't have that function built in and, the same, a web developer would need to do it.

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]

Of course, that's very true, I'm just saying their website is a lot nicer looking....modern looking at least and a lot more functional than this relic of the 1990s.

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]

Maybe if it concerns Poland and you have a question in English about something in Poland, but normally, no, you'd usually get a link to a website with the info rather than a forum.

Also a huge problem with this forum is there was no sense ever of 'community' here. Keyboard warriors were allowed to thrive and it was too late before actions was taken. They put off new posters and the vast majority never returned.

And the short edit time is nonsense as well, can't go back and change a spelling error is ludicrous. I'd said it many times here, but the forum is long overdue an update to website software that wasn't made in the 1990s. As much as ATP is a terrible site of trolls and idiotic pigmen, at least it has the functions of a website that's of the 21st century.

Feedback / Editing time too short (5 minutes currently) [60]

Thing is for most online forums membership is down.

Forums were so successful for many years coz info wasn't so readily available on the growing internet. Now, we're website for everything and looking for info is far easier, so y'know people don't really need forums, they just have to google it.

In terms of this forum, i agree with this:


, I don't think this forum really every had a clear aim and as thus has become a hodgepodge of meaningless/aimless threads.
People come for help and are lambasted for daring to ask, most threads are turned into arguments and people are not civil.

Plus y'know, it's a forum of, mostly, immigrants in Poland, a tiny, tiny minority and in inconsequential country where not much happens in the grand scheme of things. Or plastic Poles who seemingly know very little about their 'homeland'.

You would have to presume that most people go to other specialist websites/forums and speak about their interests there, not much of an audience here and the audience that is here isn't exactly civil.

Work / Living in Katowice (programmer, 3000 PLN) - is it enough? [65]


It's still sh!t money, no denying that.

Work / Living in Katowice (programmer, 3000 PLN) - is it enough? [65]


That salary is crap, tell them to shove it.

Rent, anything from 800-1500
Food, travel, 1500 a month, that's already almost 3000zl
Add phone bill, tv/internet bill, utilities.
Fuel and insurance if you have a car.

Naw, tell them you want double.
Kato doesn't have a lot going for it....it's a very average city.
A few shopping centres, a really huge public park, ul. Mariacka is great in the summer, dead as disco in winter.

But yea, I wouldn't move here for such a small wage.

Work / Job at HP in Wroclaw, what salary should I expect and Is It negotiable? [29]


Pretty average tbh. if you're living in Italy, I wouldn't bother moving to here for only 4000zl a month.
I'd want twice that.

Your rent will be around 800-1200zl per month, food, 500zl, bills, 300-500zl a month add to that fuel if you drive.
You won't save much money and Poland doesn't exactly have a high standard of living compared to other EU countries.

Ask for 7000-8000zl they can only say no.

News / Polish Pope, John Paul II has been canonized today [with John 23rd] [85]

You must have missed this bit.....


I've made some changes to help you understand.
Have a nice public holiday :)

Work / Job at HP in Wroclaw, what salary should I expect and Is It negotiable? [29]

Looks like a kind of call centre job yes?
This is the ad for it, yes?

www3.hp.com/pl/wroclaw/finance/accounts-receivable-specialist-with-italian-jobs

I reckon you'd be lucky to get 4000-5000zl per month and that would be ok to survive on, but wouldn't give you a great lifestyle.

Could be less though, isn't it strange the way Polish employers don't say how much they're willing to pay?

Travel / Gdansk at night - where do I go for nightlife? [10]

Gdansk is usually as dead as disco at night, go to Sopot, everyone else does :)
Plenty of pubs, restuarants, clubs there and it's only 10 mins away on the train and i think they run every 15/20mins.

Life / MAY 1st - Party time in Poland? What are the traditions? [9]

Lots of drink and barbecues...... be extra careful on the roads though, drink driving and accidents are especially common....especially if you're in a maluch :)

Most poeple I know wil head out of the city and go to the mountains for the weekend, beware too that shops will be closed on the public holidays so get you beer and meat before those days :)