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Atch   
17 Sep 2019
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Polish history is quite beyond belief sometimes :-)

Not really. Horses were extremely prized in Polish culture as indeed they have been in many cultures, including England. Have you ever seen the Prince Regent's stables at Brighton Pavillion?
Atch   
27 Aug 2019
Food / Need some Polish dessert recipes [47]

Well, in our house (Ireland of course but my granny was a big fan of "English" cookery!) sponge cake meant the stuff without the fat and a "Victoria Sandwich" was how you referred to the other kind. So if my granny said she was making a sponge cake it meant the fatless one. These are rather old fashioned terms I think as this is how they're referred to in the cookery books she had, some of which were published in the 1920s and 30s. There were also such strange delights as 'rough puff pastry' which is a kind of cross between short crust and puff pastry and is delicious for making apple tarts. Shortcrust was never seen in our house :) The rough puff is made with half lard and half butter and you don't have to all that rolling and folding which you do for puff,so it's much quicker and easier, but it gives a lovely flaky texture. It's also great for meat pies. Oh dear, I'm starting to get hungry!

The sponge collapsing, I believe is due to the temperature. If you open the oven door to check the sponge before the optimum moment, the change of temp will cause it to collapse.
Atch   
27 Aug 2019
Food / Need some Polish dessert recipes [47]

the difference between biszkopt and a typical UK sponge cake, is the inclusion of fat,

There are actually two kinds of English sponge, Chemi. The classic sponge doesn't have any fat and the Victoria sponge which does use fat. The fatless sponge was tradtionally used for making cakes filled with fresh cream or jam, the "jam sponge", being a staple of afternoon tea in bygone times. It's very light and fluffy if made properly but it's really difficult to pull off and I think that's probably why it's rarely made these days except by very proficient cooks. If you don't get it right, it won't rise, or it collapses in the middle and the texture is horribly rubbery. The Victoria sponge on the other hand is a lot more forgiving.
Atch   
26 Aug 2019
Real Estate / Polish government targeting British property buyers!! [10]

it should have been the notaries responsibility to flag this to us

Unfortunately, in Poland, a notary, even if retained by the buyer, does not act for the buyer in the sense that a solicitor does in the UK. The notary's role is merely to witness the transaction in order to legalize it, and any documentation provided to them by the parties concerned is taken on trust. The notary is not obliged to verify any information regarding the property. That's why the same notary can be used by both the buyer and the vendor. You would have needed a solicitor to carry out the due diligence on the property beforehand.
Atch   
23 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with the statement that the English vocabulary is vast compared to Polish

Well, it is true to say that there are far more words in the English language than in Polish. And I don't think any linguists would deny that beyond the sheer number of words, English is amazingly expressive in terms of its dialects and the richness of its idioms and vernacular speech.
Atch   
22 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

Niestety, tak :))

That's a very anglophone thing to do and I used to do that

Well, I think people don't mind so much when they can see that you're also a foreigner, but you have a point. Also maybe, when it's a woman doing the asking, they're less defensive. Plus of course I have the old Hibernian way "Your pastries are delicious. I never ate a Georgian pastry before - and you're Georgian yourself,are you? Oh, wonderful, so it's real authentic cuisine". By which time, they're all smiles, unless of course there's a queue forming behind me :-D You have to choose your moment carefully, when there's a lull in trade. I'm not actually being nosy for the sake of it though. I'm genuinely interested in people.
Atch   
22 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

There's a Georgian bakery near me in Warsaw and the guys working there are definitely Georgian, also another very small place doing hot savoury pastries run by a Georgian couple. I know she's Georgian because I asked her where she was from :-) Probably the same people who have the larger bakery.

was just wondering if there's been some kind of systematic migration of Georgians to Poland

Next time you have a chance to chat with a Georgian, ask them.

Armenians

Still quite a few of them around in Warsaw, mostly older ones who've been trading here for years. One cheeky old duffer told me that my Polish should be better after all the time I've spent in Poland :-D
Atch   
14 Aug 2019
History / Why do schools teach "The battle of Warsaw" but not "the history of communist Poland?" [16]

It's generally because of the way the subject is taught. It's made as dry as dust. There needs to be a strong element of social history and local history incorporated and used as a basis, for teaching the national and political history. Also, reliance on textbooks as the chief source of learning material for students is not the way to go. Plus, history needs to be set within a wider context. The timeline is an important tool for that. Huge chart,one whole wall of your classroom if necessary,the students help to create it, countries across the top, dates down the side, and main points of importance readable across and down the columns so that one can see the history of one's own country in relation to the rest of the world at any given point in time. So, if we take a random date, 1447, what was happening in that decade in Poland, in France, in Italy, in England?

In that year Kazimerz became King of Poland
The Hundred Years War was going on between France and England
In Italy, the rebuilding of Rome as part of the Renaissance, began in 1447.
England, whilst engaged in the Hundred Years War with France, also stood on the brink of the Wars of the Roses.

Now, let's say the student is studying in a present day school in Warsaw on the east side of the river ,they're looking at the timeline, getting a feel for what was going in a global context - what was happening in eastern Warsaw in the 15th century?

You can also create individual timelines for the development of science, industry, religion, art etc. Once kids have a broad grasp of history, they could choose an area of special interest in their senior years of secondary school and devote themselves to the study of that.

And so it goes on........but it takes a big shift in teacher training and curriculum design to implement something like that. And above all a will to do it.

@just saw your post above Pawian :-)) great minds..........!!
Atch   
14 Aug 2019
History / Why do schools teach "The battle of Warsaw" but not "the history of communist Poland?" [16]

But also, what do teach

no one can agree what the story of communism was...

Agree with Lenka, you make some great points. My own view is that ideally, by the time kids reach Matura level, they should be capable of having both sides of an argument presented to them and being allowed to make an informed judgement for themselves, rather than being given bald facts or a particular version of the story. Then for the exam, if they're taking history, they could be asked to choose an argument and support it. Unfortunately education systems, not just in Poland but in many places, often don't do their job properly. Education should be about teaching people to think.

What strikes me, is how little social history young Polish people know of the Communist period. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I know a lot more than many teenage or twenty-something Poles I've talked to.
Atch   
16 Jul 2019
Work / What are the most sought IT skills in Poland? [2]

The most sought after skills vary depending on the area of software development eg if you want to work in banking/finance you'll ideally need to know C++ and MFC. If you want to be a software developer what you really need is to know two computer languages very, very well, rather than a bit of this and a bit of that. You'll pick up the other stuff as you go along. Concentrate on honing either your Java or C++ (ideally C++ as it's more complex than Java and hence there is a shortage of C++ programmers compared to Java) and then try to get a position as a junior programmer in that language.

I learned that most IT jobs in Poland don't require you to speak Polish.

If you have a skill set they need, the Polish language won't matter so much but if you're looking for a junior programming position I'm not so sure. Although there are plenty of foreign nationals working in Polish offices, most of them have been hired because they are experienced. Most communication in Polish teams takes place po Polsku. So continue to work hard at your Polish too :))
Atch   
10 Jul 2019
Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]

Im sure I said was it takes me longer to read and write polish.

What you actually said was:

"I don't really understand a lot of the language. I can speak and write better in Polish than I can read and understand conversations. The Polish spoken in the US is much more Americanized in a way than the Polish in Poland. I don't have much contact with Polish people aside from my parents and a few friends and even then we usually speak English - except for with my dad who doesn't know English that well but even then we use Polish intermingled with English."

I actually find that interesting, because, I, as a learner of Polish, have a similar problem. I can actually rattle off a fair amount of Polish with very dodgy grammar admittedly, but I am quite capable of communicating but I have to really strain and listen actively to understand the response! Or indeed, in conversation, a lot of the time I have to make a conscious effort to follow what's being said. When you say that you don't read well in Polish, do you mean comprehension-wise?? That you don't understand the vocab? That would tie in with struggling to understand conversations. Sounds like you're somewhere in the foggy regions of the dreaded B level intermediate world :)
Atch   
10 Jul 2019
Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]

Atch I'll have you know we celebrate wigilia, wielkanoc, etc and not the American version.

And yet, you come across as 100% American - I'm afraid that eating a bit of fish and pickled cabbage on the 24th of December doesn't make you culturally Polish. The vibe you give off on this forum is a certain kind of stereo-typical loud-mouth, blue collar, mid-West American. You've imbibed all of that because that's the society and culture you grew up in. As for speaking/writing the language, when you first appeared here as Adrian, you admitted that your Polish is far from fluent and that you have trouble with reading and writing in Polish, whilst your English, whatever its shortcomings, is completely fluent. If you were really "Polish" it would be the other way round, wouldn't it.
Atch   
3 Jul 2019
Study / Where to study, SGH Poland or Smurfit UCD? [4]

Smurfit School at University College Dublin

Last year they ranked 23 in the top 100 European business schools, Warsaw School of Economics is 76 which is fine, but Smurfit has very strong links with industry and some of their Masters programs are in the top ten globally. Dublin is an expensive place to live but there's a very well established Chinese community there and Irish people are extremely friendly. Smurfit also ranks very high globally for future earnings and employability of its graduates. In the long run, studying in Poland purely for financial reasons, is not a great career move for someone already as qualifed as you are and with fluent English.
Atch   
25 Jun 2019
Life / Everything this guy says I feel about Poland [69]

they might have been intimidated by a foreigner. Or scared.

Oh Kaprys, pleeease........holiday makers or locals walking along a beach are not rainforest tribes!!!

the English managed to teach the Irish basic manners or even royal courtesy

We did have our own royalty, you know :)) And it wasn't the English but the Normans who introduced the term 'salut' to Gaelic Ireland. I've already explained that Pawian. Somebody is not paying attention in class - worse still, somebody is trying to be a smarty-pants just for the sake of being cheeky, rather than having any valid point to make. I think you're picking up bad habits from your students..............which in turn leads us to speculate on your classroom management skills..........
Atch   
24 Jun 2019
Life / Everything this guy says I feel about Poland [69]

Salute or an open palm gesture shows that I am not a threat.

In Ireland 'to salute' a person comes from the French word 'salut' which can be used as hello or goodbye, a bit like czesć in Polish. We have some peculiarities in Hiberno-English stemming from the Norman colonization back in the 12 century. Incredible how we've retained them for 800 years! If you say that a person failed to salute you, it means they didn't acknowledge you either by a word or gesture.
Atch   
24 Jun 2019
Life / Everything this guy says I feel about Poland [69]

According to natural human instincts which are to interact with other humans. We're social creatures. Incidentally, on this very topic, I came across this article the other day.

The benefits of talking to strangers:
bbc.com/news/world-48459940

And in this instance ie on the beach or a country walk, we're not talking about trying to engage anybody in conversation, merely acknowledging their presence in a pleasant manner.
Atch   
24 Jun 2019
Life / Everything this guy says I feel about Poland [69]

Poles are cold at the beginning, they need time to warm up to you.

Sorry Pawian, but it's basic manners and common courtesy to 'salute' as we say in Ireland, a stranger whom you encounter in a situation such as the beach one that Doug describes.
Atch   
5 Jun 2019
Life / In North Praga, Warsaw people are paranoid [16]

Don't go to Brzeska Street.

Quite right. I would say that they don't like 'gawpers' trespassing on what is essentially private property. Those courtyards are the outdoor areas of people's homes. You wouldn't walk into somebody's garden and wander around admiring their flowers, so why would you think it's ok to poke your nose into a private courtyard?
Atch   
23 May 2019
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Now, this is an interesting one. Looks like quite a modern painting, with that loose brush work..........he fact that she's lying on straw but covered with fur............I can't make out what that thing is above her, but portraits always have something in them to symbolize the sitter.........

Ok, here are a few guesses:

Jadwiga, Queen of Poland
Emilia Plater
Barbara Radziwiłł
Rozalia Lubomirska (though as she was beheaded this would presumably depict her during her imprisonment)
Maria Piotrowiczowa, heroine of the February Uprising
Janina Lewandowska, WWII pilot, died at Katyn (she wasn't blonde or especially pretty but artists are often known for romanticizing their subjects, so.....)
Irena Morzycka-Iłłakowicz WWII intelligence agent, was blonde and pretty. The clothing in the painting looks contemporary to that period too.

Come on Pawian, put us out of our misery!

And thank you for your kind words teacher, I try to be a good contributor :))
Atch   
22 May 2019
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Anna Bilińska-Bohdanowiczowa, that's a self-portrait. Very accomplished artist, sadly died far too young.
Atch   
24 Apr 2019
History / Study Shows Irish Voters Rejected the Nice Treaty Referendum Due to Poland's Entry Into the EU [80]

Of course Roz, we know that Sh*tty has no idea what he's talking about - totally ignorant of Irish history - but I wonder if he could enlighten us as to why Poland remained "neutral and detached" from the plight of Ireland and the Irish, through nearly 800 years of foreign occupation :)) - especially when you consider that the first history of Poland written in English was by an Irish doctor, physician to Jan Sobieski and the Irish invited the Poles to join them in Napolean's Legion Irlandaise - where is the history of Ireland written by a Pole?? etc etc.

Read this, you big ignorant lump:

Poland in the Irish Nationalist Imagination, 1772-1922
Anti-Colonialism within Europe

link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-43431-5
Atch   
24 Apr 2019
History / Study Shows Irish Voters Rejected the Nice Treaty Referendum Due to Poland's Entry Into the EU [80]

Please tell us about the contribution of your own family to World Wars One and Two - as an Irish person I can discuss my family's contribution, what was yours?

When the prospect of fighting on traditional Poland lands occurred in WWI

To which lands are your referring?? My family fought in France, Palestine and Egypt. The Irish regiments weren't serving on Polish lands.

Btw, I'm wondering why it's ok for Poland to want independence but Ireland shouldn't

Anyway, it's pointless trying to spread hatred against the Irish, we have a great international reputation and are generally liked wherever we go - for a reason. Figure it out.
Atch   
23 Apr 2019
History / Study Shows Irish Voters Rejected the Nice Treaty Referendum Due to Poland's Entry Into the EU [80]

British attempts at conscripting the Irish during the war was met with so much fierce resistance that the British abandoned the plan.

They didn't need to conscript. Around 140,000 Irish volunteers fought in WWI.

Thank goodness nobody here is stupid enough to take any notice of your pig ignorance - well in fairness it's not just ignorance and stupidity, it's a form of mental illness as well.

And as usual, you didn't answer any of the errors in your previous post, which I pointed out to you.

Btw as I write, I'm sitting metres away from a leather box containing the medals of some of those members of my Irish family who fought (and died) in World War One - what about you Sh*tty??
Atch   
10 Apr 2019
History / Study Shows Irish Voters Rejected the Nice Treaty Referendum Due to Poland's Entry Into the EU [80]

Precisely. That's what I mean by Sh*tty not having a clue what he's talking about. However, it should be noted that every Irishman who joined up during WWI did so voluntarily, as there was no conscription in Ireland plus Irish involvement in World War One was officially supported by many leading Irish politicians and Nationalists of the time. John Redmond who was the leader of the main Irish nationalist party urged all members of the Irish Volunteers (the Old IRA as the Irish call them) to join the British army and fight Germany.

In the same way, Sh*tty talks about the violent history of the Republic of Ireland. The Republic was founded in 1949 and has no history of civil war, violence or aggression towards any other nation or group of people. Our only military engagements have been as Peacekeepers, starting with the Congo back in the 1950s. Incidentally later this year, 100 Polish soldiers will be joining the Irish Battalion in the Lebanon to replace 100 of our soldiers who are required for other duties.