Work / What is deducted from a salary in Poland apart from Income tax? [155]


Nothing but an assumption. Where did the OT state his experience or seniority?

All your arguments are worthless because based on assumptions.

Work / What is deducted from a salary in Poland apart from Income tax? [155]


You keep coming back talking about some engineers or senior financial expert.

The OP hasn't even mentioned his profession yet you are basing your arguments on what you believe the OP's profession might be,

I know of an Indian companiy in Poland which brings in "SME's" from India when they set up new projects. They normally bring them in for 6 months or a year. At home in India, in their normal work environment they are "simple" accountants, credit controllers or accounts payable clerks. But, because they have been with the company for a number of years, they know the environment and are being brought over to Poland on assignment to help with the new project / engagement set up.

There not engineers or senior financial experts but to make it attractive for them, they are being offered a higher compensation for their trouble.

All the posts that you have written in this thread are completely worthless because you base your arguments on assumptions, not on facts.

Quite poor and disappointing for someone who apparently studied hard to "beef up his salable qualifications" in order to retire early. As an educated person with apparently two patents that allowed you to retire early, you should know better than basing your arguments on assumptions.

Work / What is deducted from a salary in Poland apart from Income tax? [155]


How do you save 1000 USD per month with a net salary of 6300 PLN for two people in Warsaw?

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]

Yes and extremely high finders fees. But seeing that the OP has mentioned these fees already, it would suggest that he is well aware of what he needs to look out for and what to avoid.

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]


Jon, come on now. Black market for apartments? Bribery? .......... Please. The Poland that Lyzko is trying to describe dates back to the 1990's early 2000's.

Far from reality these days.

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]


I am not sure what kind of picture of Poland you are trying to paint here but there is no black-market bribery involved in finding an apartment.


And you do not seem to know how it works in either of the two regions. I have never had a problem finding an apartment or getting around in Poland. Nor will the OP have any problems.

To make it short for you, your suggestion to hire a certified translator (when the OP is clearly trying to avoid additional fees and costs) is ridiculous.

Work / How to find work in Warsaw "if u don't speak Polish" ! [176]


Once again you are talking "facts" about Germany which I as a German do not recognize. I am from Berlin and there most certainly was no Vietnamese "hammerlock" on news stands / kiosks in Berlin. And most likely there was no such thing as a seller who had a translator standing next to him to assist with the transaction. The only thing they controlled was the black market cigarette trade. Honestly Lyzko, I would really prefer it if you stop talking nonsense about my home country.

This thread needs to get back on track

Law / Thinking of opening up a Greek restaurant in Poland, bad idea or good? Jenkei [45]


I will, thanks for the recommendation. Will give you my verdict on it after.

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]


You have lost me here. The point was not to get a professional and then try not to pay them. The point was that there is no need to hire a professional / certified translator to find an apartment. Specially not when the idea was to avoid high agency fees.

Following your logic, in order to avoid high agency fees you are suggesting to hire a certified translator which in turn would charge a high fee?

Law / Thinking of opening up a Greek restaurant in Poland, bad idea or good? Jenkei [45]


10 years ago I would have said yes but now? In my opinion there are far too many kebab places in the bigger cities already. I remember when I lived in Krakow, someone had the great idea to open a kebab shop in a street that already had a number of them. The guy closed after a few weeks.

Unless you are doing something exceptional with the kebabs that nobody else does, I would not bother opening a kebab shop.

UK, Ireland / Opening a bank account in Poland from UK / poor CCJ credit rating? [11]


When I opened my first account in Poland with Nordea, they wanted to see my contract of employment. When I opened accounts with Getin and Millenium later, they just wanted my passport.


You won't have any problems. Depending on the bank you chose, they will either issue you with a Debit MasterCard or Visa. You can use both cards abroad. Of course, there is no guarantee that your bank card won't be swallowed by the ATM, but that does not mean that your bank won't allow withdraws abroad. It just an issue with that particular ATM. Happened to me plenty of times and sometimes resulted in awkward situations.

I have my account with Bank Millenium now. Their internet banking is superb and also available in English. I think they even won awards for best online banking in Poland. With Millenium I have two current accounts so if one card gets swallowed by an ATM I still have the other card and can transfer funds from one account to the other within seconds. And if that second card gets swallowed too, there is still the credit card to help out.

All you need is your passport to open the account. But as jon said, you won't be given an overdraft facility or credit card immediately.

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]


It would help, yes. But it is not necessary. Specially when that local wants to be paid for the service.

@ Richi, try the facebook pages for foreigners in Krakow or as suggested by InPolska in post 4, check in to a hostel for a couple of days and find an apartment during that time. You would most likely have to do that anyway as you need to physically see the apartment before signing the agreement. You could also use that time to check the notice boards at the University. I would be very surprised if you wouldn't be able to find something suitable for the four of you in Krakow. If there is any help needed drop me a PM.

Classifieds / Flat in Krakow for German students for one semester [24]


Hire a certified interpreter to rent an apartment? They might as well just pay the agency fee then.

@ Richard, gumtree.pl or any of the facebook groups: Krakow Expats, Foreigners in Krakow etc. Just post what you are looking for there. Most likely someone knows someone who knows someone who is looking to rent out his apartment.

I am German living in Lodz. If you need any help with your first steps in Poland, drop me a PM.

News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]


No, marriage is defined as the "legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman, or, in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex.

If the jurisdiction you live in does not recognize same sex marriages, fair enough, but your jurisdiction's interpretation of marriage does not have to apply to other jurisdictions.

You are not going to change that fact by simply repeating your interpretation of marriage over and over and over again.

UK, Ireland / Pack from Ireland to Poland via An Post [16]


Was his name Pat by any chance?

UK, Ireland / Pack from Ireland to Poland via An Post [16]

I didn't know that. Which service do they use and does it have an impact on the prices of sending letters and parcels from the UK to Poland?

UK, Ireland / Pack from Ireland to Poland via An Post [16]


How are letters or parcels sent from the UK by Royal Mail being delivered in Poland? They send them to a courier service in Poland who then distributes the mail from the UK?

UK, Ireland / Pack from Ireland to Poland via An Post [16]


Most likely they work with THE local post office. An Post in Ireland is what Poszta Polska is in Poland. Don't worry about the status. I once waited for a package for four days and it said "out for delivery" for those whole four days. It may well be that it just arrived in Poland and is currently on it's way to Lodz.

If the postman can't get you at the address, he will leave a notice paper with the address where you can pick it up.

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]


You and I will never be on the same page, johnny. Why? Because even in this thread, the thread in which i ENQUIRED about a sports category, you go on about fishing saying that you should be able to post about it in this thread seeing that it is sports related.

Either you are not clever enough to understand that this thread only serves as a thread to ask about the possibility of a sports category, not to post your experiences in it (no matter which sport) ......... or you just need to fulfill your hunger and desire to troll.


............

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]


I have not said that. I have said that you can write about your fishing trips in a different thread. A different thread of that sports category, if there was one.

But seeing that none of your fishing trip stories would ever relate to Poland, since you have never been here and most likely will never be here, it most likely will end up in the off topic category. Like almost all your other posts do.


Yes, i am and in fact I have had the great joy to go fishing with some Poles last year. Although I was there to be social and have a drink and bbq while they were doing their fishing.


Yep

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]


That's ok and not everybody has to enjoy football. But the original question was whether there is a possibility to have a sports section here. As you may remember, there have been questions from others about Stadia in Poland, how to get there, where to have a beer before or after the game, how to buy tickets etc. etc. Questions that could have already been answered in that sports section.

One thing that is certain is that the original question of this thread was not whether our resident troll likes football.


You can but please do that in a separate thread, ideally somehow related to Poland, or off topic. Nobody stops you from doing it and maybe you will find likeminded people with who you can exchange your experiences.

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]


And that is why I have said -


You see, you do not know what is like to experience true emotions of a game in the stadium. And there is nothing wrong with watching games on TV. A lot of people do and sometimes I do too. But i prefer the stadium atmosphere, emotions, rivalry etc. Sometimes even the trip to the game itself would give you enough material to write a book. I once traveled from Lausanne to Milan by car, took a plane to Budapest and then the train to Ukraine to watch Karpaty Lviv - Tavria Simferopol. All the way I met amazing people, had great food in Italy and Hungary and on the train from Budapest I shared a compartment with another German who traveled to the very same game and by accident was booked into the same train compartment as I was. Or last February I traveled to Czech Republic to watch 4 games in 5 days in 3 different cities. Sat in the Slovacko stadium at - 5 degrees, watching a horrible game and sharing endless amounts of flasks to keep warm with other people who were silly enough to head out to the game too. Of course, the flasks only kept us pretend warm.

You on the other hand can talk about how you walked from your sofa to the fridge to get a beer and went back to your sofa. But that is ok. Each to their own.


Overpriced tickets, to a certain extend I agree. It depends on which game you are going to watch. 4 years ago I paid 60 Euro for Barcelona - Shakhtar Donetsk in the Champions League. You couldn't even see the ball from the guest sector. But again, being amongst friends and the atmosphere (in the guest sector at least. The Barcelona fans are terrible) made up for it. For the Europa League final in Warsaw this year I paid 90 Euro. Overpriced? Yes. But then I went to see Widzew Lodz play Wigry Suwalki and only paid 15 zlotych. In fact, when I picked up the ticket from the Widzew office I had to force my money onto the guy because he just gave me the ticket and when asked what about the payment he responded with "Well, if you have the money now ok, if not it is ok too". Of course that would explain why Widzew find themselves without a license for Liga 2 next season due to financial difficulties.


Far from reality. If I remember correctly, and perhaps someone of the British members here can confirm / correct me, there is no alcohol in British stadia and drunk people are usually not allowed to enter the stadium. Same with any UEFA CL or EL game where alcohol is strictly prohibited.


I am trying to understand if you are asking me a question or if you are making a statement.


Yes I do. Well done to the American team. They deserve to go through the final.


I am not a doctor and therefore it is difficult for me to asses whether it was right or wrong. It is my understanding that it was a decision made by Alexandra Popp (the player), the manager and the team doctors. And knowing Alexandra Popp and her determination, she probably wouldn't have been too happy about being substituted because her head was bleeding a little.

I know, it is probably difficult for you to understand. After all, the heroes of your game play all padded up and with a helmet. And god forbid they get tackled too hard, then of course they have to be substituted.

Determination and enthusiasm that you would probably never understand while watching games from the comfort of your sofa sipping a cold beer.

Feedback / Any chance of a sports category on PF [29]


The point was not about what sport is being played at Wembley but whether or not our resident troll would ever set foot into Europe to watch a live game.

Not that I would consider American "Football" to be a sport anyway........

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


That is not true. It is actually the opposite. Working in a Shared Service Center gives you a lot more exposure to the corporate structure than a local office ever could. Companies centralize to globalize processes, share best practices, find more cost effective and efficient ways of working. Usually it is the local offices who are left with very little if at all influence on the new "ways of working". The local offices merely serve as a representation in the country but have very little influence.

Career progression within the company is a lot easier in a shared service center than a local office. If you compare a local office which may employ 10 - 30 people with a Shared Service Center which employs 500 people, it is not too difficult to understand which of the two offers more room for growth. There is absolutely no reason why a young graduate could not move into a team leader position after 2 years. Next step would be operations manager or a senior role in project management. Something a small local office certainly would not be able to offer.


Once a company has centralized, projects do not happen on local level anymore. There would be no need to centralize if projects are being done by the local organizations, preventing other entities to get the benefit of that project too.

I have done several transitions for Shared Service Centers across Europe. It is most certainly not the local organization that retains any of the rewarding projects.


On the contrary. Larger Shared Service Centers usually have their own training department. Either incorporated into HR or acting as a separate department solely focusing on the development of their staff. ACCA and CIMA are just two partners for a lot of the larger Shared Service Centers in Poland when it comes to external trainings.


The trainings are usually conducted in English so the language barrier does not come into play.


Interesting. So how would an Indian or Pakistani perform European language dependent tasks? Unless they have studied the required language, they will hardly be able to replace someone "easily" in a European Shared Service Center.


That depends on how you define quality of life for yourself. A lot of the young people that work in SSC's actually seem to enjoy themselves quite a lot. In general they do enjoy a fairly active social life, make new friends, travel together on the weekends etc. etc. etc. But again, it depends on what you define as quality of life for yourself. There are no standards for this.


Usually it's an entity of multinational companies that centralize some of their processes. In short, companies can either have local office spread across Europe that, for example, handle their accounting function. Or companies centralize and handle these functions for all European entities from one place. So basically company ABC UK, ABC Germany and ABC France do not look after their accounting from their local office but it is handled in the company's shared service center centrally, in Poland for example.

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


You "fail miserably" Dominic. Your explanations continue to show that you do not have the slightest idea about the job market in Poland nor do you know anything about SSCs.


Totti, perhaps you could try to convince with arguments? "stop trolling" without any substantial arguments and facts is not going to cut it.

Work / Warsaw vs Krakow vs Wroclaw - which city offers more job opportunities for foreigners in Poland? [9]


Dominic, you do not even know what a Shared Service Center is. Please stop giving advice to people about their life planning.

Just because you think that stop to answering questions makes the issue go away does not mean mean it will. You have displayed your lack of knowledge and ignorance in this thread - https://polishforums.com/work/poland-job-opportunities-young-italian-74859/ .

Turning quiet and "sitting it out" does not make your ignorance go away Dominic.

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


My question about what you believe a "lousy SSC" is can only be regarded as "trolling" if you do not know what SSC is and stands for.

Most multinationals either have or are in the process of setting up SSC's. SSC - Shared Service Center just means that they have centralized some of their functions. In most cases, companies centralize their finance (mostly A/R, A/P and G/L), customer services and sales. In some cases they even centralize their legal department.

The only difference between a local office and a shared service center is that the employee works in a central office where instead of just one entity, most European entities of that company are being handled from.

Let's take company ABC as an example. The OP could work for company ABC Italy in their legal department in Rome, handling all legal matters of company ABC Italy in Italy. But, company ABC has decided to centralize and opened a shared service center in Warsaw. Now the OP could work for company ABC Poland in Warsaw working for their Italian entity company ABC Italy and still handling all legal matters of company ABC Italy but from Poland. The only difference is that the OP is doing that sitting next to his colleague who handles all legal matters for company ABC France or company ABC Germany.

There is nothing "lousy" about it.

Dominic, it is ok not to know what a Shared Service Center is and what people do in these Shared Service Centers. But if you do not know, then please do not advice anyone not to work there.

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


You once again go back to that statement, yet you have not been able to explain what a lousy SSC actually is.

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


And we are back to the point where I am saying "educate yourself before you answer" . SSC - Shared Service Center can hardly be called a "Call Center".


That has to be the dumbest thing you have written here in a long time. How is he going to support himself without a job?

Work / What are the job opportunities in Poland for a young Italian with a law degree? [72]


Sure. Why don't you try to practice law in Poland with an Italian law education.........