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szczecinianin   
28 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Spot on.

Massive stinking pile of horse manure, more like.

If you've read the wiki article, you don't appear to have understood it.

And you don't seem to have understood the previous discussion either, which ended in the bin after the party gamely fighting a quixotic but losing struggle against the glaringly obvious began mumbling 'you're a moron' to himself, over and over again.

What's with you people?! Paulina is making perfectly reasonable points and asking relevant questions, and for some reason you keep jumping on her and saying she's "tiresome".

Most likely you've never had prolonged interaction with her. If you ever suffer the misfortune of doing so, you'll gradually realise why. After the 217th question you'll most likely decide you'd prefer to visit a dentist to have your teeth extracted than continue the conversation any further.
szczecinianin   
28 Jan 2014
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What do you mean by Judeo Christian, no one wants to define this much used phrase.

You're a bit like Paulina. You ask someone what they mean, they tell you, then you ask them again, and say they haven't told you. I can only suggest you have reading comprehension difficulties.

I'm asking you both, let's call it, inconvenient questions, I'm giving reasonable and logical arguments

Thet aren't. They are tiresome. (Exactly like Barney's on this thread). Often, they show lack of understanding on your part. 'The Judeo-Christian tradition' isn't a particularly difficult concept to grasp, it has already been defined, yet despite this Barney keeps asking me and others to reinvent the wheel and define it for him again and again and again. And even when shown what a wheel looks like he claims it isn't in fact a 'wheel'. Often, the only answer to him (and you) is to say we are unwilling to answer your (and his) pointless questions.

If we are talking about Christianity why the Judeo part, why was it added when for the overwhelming majority of history it was never mentioned.

I'm well aware theology is hardly your strong point, but surely you have heard of the 'Old Testament'.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
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If it was ever a valid description in the first place and if people's understanding of that concept had remained unchanged.

I have no idea why it isn't valid.

I'm familiar with Nietsche's writings - on that as with so much else he needs to be understood within the context of his time and place - as do we.

Really? Funnily enough, when the subject first came up, I thought of what he had to say concerning the subject.

And Europe as well as our planet is shrinking - terms like 'Judeo-Christian don't have the same relevance as they once did, nor will the current fuss about migration be seen the same way as the future. And yes, if you do want to talk about 'Judeo-Christian' in the context immigration by Muslims, you do have to look at the the similarities between all three Abrahamic religions and the way they shaped the societies they came in contact with.

Because, Paulina, this isn't a question and answer session. Why not have a closer look at the thread. And yes, some of the answers to your 'questions' are now in Random.

You (Paulina) ask too many questions. If they get answered, you then go on to add further questions. And if evidence is presented, you don't bother to look at it.

Interaction with you rapidly becomes tiresome.

I have absolutely no idea why you are bringing this up. My point is that Western civilization has a Judeo-Christian base. I'm not making any point about Islam, and neither am I making any point about immigration. I am also well aware that Islam is an Abrahamic faith.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
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It's the religious current that has defined it for close on two millennia. Get Smurf to inform you on what Nietzsche had to say on the subject of the Judeo-Christian tradition, or whatever this happens to be called in German.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Which we've established can't be objectively described as 'Judeo-Christian'.

This hasn't been established at all. We've just had some people posting blanket statements as 'fact'.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
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Christianity rejects the teachings of Joseph Smith in the same manner as Judaism rejects those of Jesus.

Trotskyism and Stalinism may have been at loggerheads with each other, but they both come under the generic term of 'Communism'.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Christianity could never have existed without Judaism. Christ himself was a Jew.

Christianity is 'Judaic' in the same sense that Mormonism is 'Christian'.
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
Love / Polish girls don't go for one night stands, is it true? [56]

i just want to get a general idea on what type of girls can be found on what places...

I know Szczecin. There are fat girls, thin girls and girls of average weight. There are tall girls, short girls and girls of average height. There are blondes and brunettes but not many redheads. There are clever girls, stupid girls and girls of average intelligence. There aren't many black or Muslim girls. There are devout Catholic virgin girls and promiscuous girls. Is this enough for you or do you require any further help?
szczecinianin   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

If you believe Wikipedia, the term 'Judeo-Christian' was coined in the US in the 1950's.

And if you actually read the article you'll find it was used far earlier than that.

There is no need to explain statements of fact such as 'cats exist'.

You have not explained what you mean by a Judeo/Christian tradition.

I have. If you don't want to accept it, then it's up to you. I'm not going to explain it again.

You reject Zimmy's correct usage

It isn't 'the correct usage'. It's the usage you wish it to be to make your strawman argument the correct one. You personally don't get to define millennia long traditions, and terms that have been in use for a couple of hundreds of years. Words don't mean whatever will win your pointless internet arguments for you.

but refuse to explain what you mean and You can't do that because you don't understand the words you type.

Concited and arrogant. Of course, I understand the words I type. You (seemingly) either don't or won't understand the obvious, and if you missed out on an education I'm not going to provide you with one.

Democracy is pre Christian, tolerance is not religion specific nor Education so what is this tradition?

Irrelevant. I've already told you what the tradition is, so please stop asking me.

Which of the "many Western states" as you said have a Judeo/Christian foundation?

I'll humour you just this once. For example, the United Kingdom. The monarch is 'the defender of the faith'. The state church is the Church of England. Prayers are said in the Houses of Parliament. Church of England bishops sit in the House of Lords. Therefore, the UK has a Christian, specifically Anglican foundation, and Christianity and Anglicanism are reformed Jewish faiths.

Now, I am not going to go through every Western country to help you in your battle to understand the obvious, I'll just give you this one example.

Lets home Poland will keep their traditions and not tolerate other countries' infringement on it's land.

Racist nonsense. You seem to have forgotten that you are an immigrant yourself and not of Anglo-Saxon descent. As a WASP I don't accept you as part of my ethnic group. So there.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
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What are the exact circumstances/events that this phrase exists to describe?

It's obvious what this describes, and I've already told you anyway. Also, fairly obviously, many Western states do have Judeo-Christian foundations. Just because someone who appears to be 'racist' uses a particular word or concept, this does not in itself make the word or concept 'racist'. If Zimmy uses the word 'Barney' does that make you a 'racist'?
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

you have simply pointed out the obvious.

Exactly.

This "tradition" is in fact a deeply racist piece of propaganda

Your stating this does not make it so. It is a tradition of over two millennia. Your p1ssing on it will not transform it into something it clearly is not.

What is commonly meant by those who use the phrase with understanding is that there is a democratic tradition of tolerance and understanding that is a god given blessing to Europeans and as a result it's their destiny to guide the unclean towards enlightenment including Jews.

Bullcr*p. Christianity extends far beyond Europe. Ever heard of Martin Luther King, who was part of this tradition?

That is what is meant by a Judeo/Christian tradition.

That is what you mean by a Judeo-Christian tradition. Your personal, pathetic, strawman parody of it.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
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I have. If you fail to understand simple concepts, expressed in simple English, then that is your problem rather than mine. Please have the last word, if that's what you are looking for.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
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So again I ask you to define this tradition and explain how it came about, you said it was clear you said it is obvious so you shouldn't have any difficulty explaining the phrase you use.

It's so obvious it doesn't merit an explanation. Despite this, I explained it to you anyway. Did you not understand? Did you miss religious education at school for some reason?

If you display total ignorance of the major faiths of the world you live in, and have no desire to accept simple explanations in simple language, I can't really help you further, I'm afraid.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Sz you continue to miss the point as usual, this phrase as used today (and almost always) has nothing to do with scripture it's a political phrase which is the only consistent thing about it in terms of meaning.

There is clearly a 'Judeo-Christian tradition' whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. Why have you been wasting our time arguing against the obvious? And btw, you were claiming there was 'no basis to this tradition in reality' earlier, and not that it was 'a political thing'. It has 'a basis in reality', and your claim is as false as any claim possibly could be.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

That is exactly the point, this phrase has nothing to do with the historic or scriptural relationships between the religions, it's an undefined political phrase used to mean anything, lately it's used to place Islam at a distance. Originally used to give evangelical Christianity some biblical justification and to promote the ideas of manifest destiny, it's meaningless nonsense.

It isn't 'meaningless nonsense' as the 'Old Testament' is in essence Judaism. Christianity is a branch of Judaism, as is Islam. The philosophy of all three religions is much the same as they all come from the same root.

Are you now going to claim that the existence of cats is 'meaningless nonsense'?
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

The 'monotheistic Abrahamic tradition' would be some kind of definition. I don't have the time and patience to write the history of this tradition, but I'm sure you can read up about it on Wikipedia, for example. I'm not some kind of historian or religious scholar.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

This so called "tradition" has no basis in reality

It has. What you have written is akin to stating that cats, the Irish Sea and the Mongolian language have 'no basis in reality'.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

The Christian part is not a unified or settled idea so how do we know what the writer means before he introduces ideas from other schools of thought.

Most likely, it is a mix of all three. Clearly monotheistic religions are different to (say) Hinduism. Muslims believe much of what Jews and Christians believe. Islam is the most modern of the three and believes in much of the scripture of the previous two.

I have no idea why you question the idea of something that quite clearly and obviously exists (a Judeo-Christian tradition) which is obviously distinct from (for example) a Buddhist tradition.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Of course, there is a connection. Islam believes Jesus to have been a prophet. You don't appear to know a great deal about the great monotheistic religions.

Muslims believe their faith to be simply a continuation of the Judeo-Christian tradition, with Muhammed being the final prophet.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
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Zimmy:
the author was pointing out cultural differences between Muslims and Christians/Jews.

There is no such thing it's made up nonsense, trying to group Christianity into one group is silly let alone adding another religion.

Muslims belong to the same monotheistic religious tradition as Christians and Jews.
szczecinianin   
26 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-europe.html
From the link: "In France, home to 13 million Muslims, the government no longer controls the banlieus , the densely-populated, predominantly Muslim ghettos that encircle most major French cities and where the French police seldom patrol.

There aren't 13 million Muslims in France you ignorant fool. Nowhere near.
szczecinianin   
25 Jan 2014
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Can I assume that's births per family?

And why is Pakistan the golden standard in this situation

Total number of births.

Because Pakistanis are the largest Muslim nationality in the UK.

Who are currently being outbred by Poles.

Should Brits be worried about this influx of alien Roman Catholics?
szczecinianin   
25 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

All those statistics are pointless for individuals that see/experience this issue first hand. You can't deny Muslims are having off spring at a ridiculous rate.

In the UK the number of Polish births is now exceeding the number of Pakistani births.

What would be your solution for this 'problem'?
szczecinianin   
25 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Statistics from 2001? After labeling someone elses statistics "arse-crack" you post this

Next time the discussion on Poles in England surfaces, I'll be sure to post statistics from the 90's

When do the statistics from the other article come from? They are allegedly taken from the Daily Telegraph, who were using statistics from 2004. The statistics are nonsense to anyone with any common sense anyway.

How and why would Muslim unemployment jump from 16% to 50% in ten years?
szczecinianin   
25 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

szczecinianin:
someone with something against Muslims has pulled a set of statistics out of his arse-crack.

Do you have the correct statistics? Your belief doesn't mean much unless you show some counter-proof. Hope you do.

1stethical.com/about/british-muslim-statistics

Anyone with any common sense would know that the statistics given in the post I replied to were false. I also know the Daily Telegraph statistics (unfortunately I cannot access these as I have exceeded my article limit). Unfortunately, it seems that many people (particularly in Poland) unquestioning believe just about any kind of nonsense critical of Muslims.