History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


I know:( but cant help myself

Let's see what You should have done according to the German officer "Alfred Jodl at the Nuremberg Trials said that "if we did not collapse already in the year 1939 that was due only to the fact that during the Polish campaign, the approximately 110 French and British divisions in the West were held completely inactive against the 23 German divisions" - so I think You shuld have been active!!!

but sorry You were active - dropping propaganda leaflets on Germany and then "On 12 September, the Anglo French Supreme War Council gathered for the first time at Abbeville in France. It was decided that all offensive actions were to be halted immediately

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Harry I mean Your govermnet not You


the treaty was only abiut Suwalszczyzna, Wilno was not mentioned, why do You lie?


are You aware that Berlin was founded by the Poles?so according to Your logic it is Polish?in 1920 2% of inhabitants were Lithuanian, look at architecture, what does it represent?

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


haha, I wonder what his response is going to be!!


dont compare PL-Lt methods to British empire, what can You throw at us, Pl-Moscow war?not much more, mostly we were just defending ourselfes

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


I dont, for much of its history Poland was much bigger then Britain, and still didnt kill as many people

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

relation of power between France and Germany alone was more or less equal in respect of the amount of troops and arming, add to this GB and Poland and Germany wouldnt stand long plus You have countries like Hungary who would abandon Reich if it was loosing. The problem was morale and unwillingnes of the higher command, but it is hard to measure before the war

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


knowing how it all turned out, yes I would want Poland to act different, but it wasnt that obvious in 1939. If France and England fulfill their obligations(and they were able of doing that) Germany would be defeated and Russia wouldnt get involved in the war. I still think it was the righteous think to do at that time.


i dont know what answer do You expect besides the obvious?maybe mobilise and fight?send help?so what "things"did it do?


of course, the Communists that You supported, killed many (mostly Poles), who is explainnig them?definitely not me


how are You gonna name the British way of doing?


please, start a thread to topics You mentioned, and I will answer


my answer about Riga treaty on previous board, then again what Britain did do?

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


did it do anything?why sign a treaty?to do NOTHING?


Yes, mostly Polish patriots, is there any logic in You?


here You have it(from Poland A and Ukraine B): it is unfortunate, and I always believed that Poland should apologised for that( as opposed to Vistula action), the thing is Ukraine was useless, they didnt manage to do anything, and Piłsudski who signed the treaty with Ukr was removed from power just after the war, Dmowskis conception of Poland and allies was totally different. As far as I know Piłsudski did apologise to Petluras soldiers, but he was just unable to do anything else. I agree with You on that- a big shame.

so, what do You think about that?You didnt answer, and just kept going with Your nonsense


coming form You? a good one Harry

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

if Poland was rewritting history then it would be current affairs not historical blunder-so, as I said before Your input is irrelevant.
I explained to You the treaty of Riga, I have seen people explaining You Czechoslovakia, but You ignore everything, and come back to it in every single topic, Why is that?what was wrong with my explanation of treaty of Riga that You didnt understand?

News / Ustroń: Another giant religious statue in Poland [26]


those fueled by criticism are who?local parish, older. usually more devout people?they will moan to each other and that is it,oh, come on. The power is media and media will not be on their side.

I dont think refusing permission should happen if they build it on their land, with their money,for me they can have a statue of Buddah-none of my business. I may not like it, but to be honest I dont like even more the "enlighten"ones who will laugh off and label as backward everything connected to catholicism, such bahaviour is having upper hand in our so called intelectual elites. And, as I see it, both sides are the same and and as much intolerant

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


why the League of Nations let Hitler arm his army on the first place?why did they let off the reparations?it wasnt tactics,it was weakness and unwillingness. In 1933 Hitler wasnt powerful, the appeasement was not necessary

History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]


are You kidding?wasnt that a British prime minister who believed Hitler to be a "nice guy" it was the appeasement politics that led Hitler to believe that he can do anything and let him arm his army even though it was against the treaty of versailles. Britain was totally unprepared for the war, France was.

News / Ustroń: Another giant religious statue in Poland [26]


I wouldnt say that, Świebodzin was highly criticised, and it now becomes sort of a fashion to criticise religion and beliefs


I hope that too. I wonder why religious people cant praise god by building hospital?but on the other hand it is their money, and not my business.

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


I guess it is for the Brits to decide, dont You?

Life / The rising costs of food and fuel in Poland and the effects on disposable income/economy [177]

no, You were given many answers just not the once You were looking for.

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

Lodz
You Yourself dont know what You want so stop talking, how was it again?polonized multi culti?
Most of Poles are on my side with it, so stop trying to adjust country and people to Your standards, and maybe just move to US- You wopuld be happy there

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

it is not a distant one, it is happening already
I am just against multiculturalism, it has nothing to do with terrorists, racism, is it so hard to understand?

Life / Living in Krakow from scratch :) [7]

1. 900-1500 zł,
2. depends what You like, how often do You eat outside, but I think 800-1000 zł is a must,
3. dont know Krakow, but in Warsaw, a monthly card for buses, trams is about 150 zł, taxis are not very expensive,
4. I dont know, but if You speak Russian You should catch Polish in no time just by watching tv or listening to people.
all the best to You

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


bacause We are talking about the future?it is not such a distant one


oh come on, be more specific, everyone knows, there is no Poles in Poland anymore, so why understate the numbers, You dont have to be gentle with us, We dont need it as long as You are telling the truth...

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


I have already told You, the goal is to expand EU as much as possible on European continent, in 20-30 years Poland will be well off economically and then it will benefit the old EU.


Delphiadomine is talking about it all the time, so I guess it must be some truth about it, but I have never given any bribe nor I heard about it, I always treated is as a myth, did You really gave a bribe to a doctor?

Nevertheless, I was never treated as badly as in Britain, but I was an immigrant there and they really made me feel as one, maybe the Brits are treated better.


I was there 9 months and I am back for 4 years now, I never realy adjusted to life there, I was in Northampton which wasnt very nice, maybe if I tried London my experience would have been different, or maybe Your countryside which is stunning, no, I am not planning to go back

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


You are putting words into my mouth, I didnt say it was included for monetary gain what I said was, that we are not just recipients, do You understand Polish?I watcheda great interview with Rosati about the topic, I can try and find it for You.But Poland was also not included because of some ethics- they dont play big role in politics(understable) Poland and other countries were included because EU wants to expand, be big as possible and competitive to growing world superpowers.They invest now and gain later

ehmm European Union is stille in Europe isnt it?so what would Nigeria do there?


I had the same problems as chichimera in UK, with administration, doctors, nobody gave a damn, my general about them was rude, uninformed, and unhelpful, and then I come here and You people are complaining about the same thing in Poland, I dont know maybe it is a immgrant treatment?


do You have anything interesting to say?how old are You?stop talking out o Your ass

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

Ohh the irony, i have 4 Polish shops within 10 minutes walk time to where i live right now, theres about 20 within 5 minutes drive time and Polands in the EU, we are making Poland a more wealthy country and lets not forget theres about 1,000,000 living and working in the UK.

With all due respect youre not really in a position to comment on immigration.

I already answered that, You dont like it- complain to Your goverment, it is Your country.

EU is helping Poland that and later when Poland is richer we will not need to emigrate to other coutries, so again wouldnt it be better to help the poor coutries?then again EU is not doing it for free, the smart countries like Germany use our membership to their advantage, having many companies on our market and buying out whatever possible. The money we get are not for free

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


You lost one zero, i heard it is 20 million


and so?You cant take everyone, wouldnt it be better to help them make their country richer?

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

WB
I think We just have to agree to disagree, we have different priorities so we cant come to the same conclusion.
But just my last try:]
dont You think the world would be more intersting if You go to England and experience their culture and way of life, then go to

France, Kenia?intead of just more of the same everywhere?
btw, I am an atheist, but what I said doesnt mean I dont have respect ot love for other countries and cultures, it just meant I like to keep mine, and I definitely didnt like what i saw in the West

P.S it sound looney because whenever somebody doesnt agree with muliticultralism is called racist or hitler, it is soooooo over the top,

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

I am aware that some immigrants have good jobs, but the REALITY is the manual workers are needed and they are not good material for integration.

You are contradicting Yourselv by saying You want the diversity and then saying You want immigrants to be polonized, which one is it then?

As for Russians in ex CCCP countries it is a completely different story, when they moved there the land was Russian and they believe it should go back to Russia

My country is Poland my friend, and I am happy with it staying this way

You sound little looney, Your mentioning of Hitler just proves it

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


which You are loosing while becoming multicultural


we are not that different to animals, it is all about surviving, and I want my country to survive


No, just look at Finland,


You dont feel any connection to Your home country?

WB -Evolution is to evolve in sth better I really didnt see it in the West


What US- a country of immigrants have to do with anythig?


Lodz,I understand You want the immigrants to be polonized, right?so, dont You think the immigration from similar countries is better?also Your policies are unreal

You think about taking in the students and educated people(the ones who are more open and therefore better to
asssimlite)but Poles are well educated, when we need immigrants we will need them for manual work just as it happens in the West, so do You believe some doctor should come to Poland to swipe the floors?


by putting the word "white" in You are trying to play the racist card?cant we have a serious conversations?I already explained my reasons

and hey suprise suprise I want people inPoland to speak Polish!!!!
being of the same culture, as for religion and food it is ones choice, what do I care?


this is not what I saw in UK,

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

if You read my last post You would notice that I dont differentiate between these two. If the Western goverments decide that they dont want to have Poles in their country, I am happy with that, and I can understand the reasons for it. I dont blame immigrants (Poles and others) because they just look for a better life for themselves, it is the goverments responsibility for doing what is best for their countries, and if they decide that Polish immigration isnt, then as I said before I am happy with that.

I dont mind the Western immigration, I just said that culturally other slavic countries are closer to us and therefore a good material for immigrants, also Western immigration hasnt even crossed my mind because now and for many years to come West will be richer then Poland so I dont see them immigrating to Poland in large numbers

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

are You trying to be smart?if You have a problem with Poles working in Your country, then moan to Your goverment not me. I am not responsible for it, and I dont like it either. I live in Poland, as my parents and grandparents did, and I have a right not to be in favour of Poland becoming multicultural, especially if arguments for this is- Poles work abroad too

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


I dont challenge that, but explain me what is the reason of keeping a country, if it doesnt represent the culture of the nation?why the countries were created and fought for its right to exist in the first place? if You like the idea of multiculturalism so much, why not forget about the borders and be a one happy family with the whole world?


what is so racist about it?You people seem to not understand the meaning of the word. The multiculturalism is one of the factor that led to destruction of the Commonwealth, altough I agree it made our culture richer etc but it all was conducted in a completely different manner than it is happening in the West.


ok, it is all fine as long as they do integrate and it doesnt happen in such big numbers as in the West, however I dont see a point of it happening now when so many Poles cant make it in Poland and have to live abroad. Also when the time comes and we are short of people, the desired immigration should come form Ukraine and Belarus-similar cultures, language, one generation and they are through and trough Polish

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

not many Poles living in Poland on here, so how is it representative?

Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]


I am afraid it cant, just turn on tv and see for Yourself,or look at the teenagers copying Americans. But it is not the West that is the problem, but our quasi intelligentsia that runs the show.


why do You think so?

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


somehow You are, the wealth of the country comes from Your ancestors, You have to take good and bad...