UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Oh i knew he was dutch, was just wondering if he was living in barrow, rather than from. should have been more specific :D Just odd he knows about drop zone! :D

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

AJ are you from Barrow-in-Furness? That is where I am from originally. Now live near newcastle. It was Barrow youth clubs I was referring to. If you know of drop zone, you know of Young Cumbria. Well Wendy the boss of the Barrow area is my mum. Thats who i was talking about earlier with people of the four groves area which you should know off.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Its only the council house estate cases splashed across the media because it pays. They get a fee for selling the article. It also helps the media have a whinge about benefit scammers. I remember reading that story when it originally came out, they also covered it in 3 womens weeklies at £250 a pop. Lots of pennies going around there. And the page after that story...the family living on 30k benefits a year. They have been covered in the same 3 womens weeklies at least 9 times now. Everytime they have another kid they pay em for another story. It makes good reading. Google and you will see the family in question. At the end of the day the media publish what sells, and some pretty little rich girl whose family are going to provide the best for, with a boyfriend who may or may not stick around does not sell papers :D

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

He applies for everything going. They basically tell him he is a) over qualified or b) under qualified. He has a lot of skills from being in the navy, but they are looking for inexperienced people who have been on job seekers the longest etc etc. His gf doesn't claim jobseekers. She was receiving maternity from her work. not sure why this stopped but it did. Therefore they only have one claim between them, and they won't let her claim js. She was meant to get income support, but something keeps stopping it. Not really sure why they don't get child benefits yet. but then again south shields job centre is really shockingly bad. He has tried for the most basic jobs, he just can't get anything bloody anywhere. Even macs turned him down.

I understand what you mean about benefit scammers though. It really irritates me when they whinge about lack of jobs and money.

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How on earth did i get tagged in that one? haha

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]


Correction. Those scamming the benefits system can afford this. My brother and my sister-in-law neither of who can get work have a 2 month old son. (she was pregnant before he lost his job), and some weeks they can't afford to feed themselves. Despite wanting to work, and trying every fricking avenue going to get work.

Believe you me if he could afford sky packages, a car and a holiday then he'd have to be doing something illegal to get that kind of money. This month isn't the first time i've helped him out with food etc and put gas on for him.

He is very lucky he has me and my family around to help with this.
People genuinely on benefits cannot afford to live. My nephew is always looked after because he comes first. He is breast fed so food for him isn't a worry, but clothing, nappies and heating always is.

Don't be so bloody assumptuous and think they can all afford to live the life of riley. Why don't you try living for a few weeks on benefits, and see if you can manage with a young baby on £50 a week.

So fricking judgemental, with your paid job, and warm house, and food on the table every night. Get of your fricking high horse and take a good look around. Poverty is rife.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Of that i am aware lol. My brother who has never been unemployed before, is now stuck on job seekers since he left the merchant navy. (we both joined at the same time, his company went bust and all of them lost their jobs). He was unlucky he hadn't finished his training, so they packed him off on job seekers. He's applied for so many jobs, can't get off the bloody thing. He's done various courses with them, and has all his courses from being in the merch but part of the problem is that he can't get employed anywhere without experience. Very stupid situation.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

When i said i meant about abolishing benefits, i mean the system as it is. It is so easy to cheat the system, and some people pass this knowledge onto their children you are right. I'm not saying we should get rid of disability or job seekers as such, its just the whole system needs to be reworked into something that is solid and fair. As it is too many people make a life of benefits. Take this option away and what will happen?

Bring in a new system that assesses every individual personally, with a full team of social workers and healthcare proffessionals should wrangle out the system abusers. It might take more money and time initially, but it will lead to a massive decrease in the money spent on benefits in the long run.

Besides which its not as if our social workers are actually doing their jobs at the minute. Look at the amount of child abuse etc in these homes which goes unnoticed because they're too busy trying to sort them all free handouts. ;)

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

I don't mind genuine asylum seekers, who actually look for jobs. illegal immigrants or illegal asylum seekers is what i was really talking about. I think they are huge drain on our resources. Just shows the Department of Work and Pensions isn't that great at realising when someone is here illegally!!

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

exactly. i think state welfare is still needed, however you are right in saying the modern form of benefits as in jobseekers, disability etc need to be abolished. would make a big difference to the state of our economy. especially if we got rid off all the benefit wasting "asylum seekers". before i get lynch mobbed i think it is good for us to have a multi-ciltural country, as long as people enter the country legally and actually work.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

welfare has a form in every single country. What i mean by welfare, is social services. they are the people who provide homes for kids etc. they need the money to do this. it is still a form of benefits!

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

no i don't blame them at all. i work for a popular ferry company, obv no names mentioned, and the amount of people i have discovered when found on the car deck and we've just had to send them straight back, some have babies and everything with them. Its horrible to see, but since my country is already so overpopulated its hard not to understand why they come here. there is a severe shortage of housing, and genuine asylum seekers are being turned away. I was also on ship when the jungle was turfed out in calais. Horrible sights to see, and the dock was overrun by people trying to get on the ships.

Since when did Scotland become England ;)
And i agree with the nest theory. I just think it'd be a shame for the people who genuinely need benefits.
Could just imagine it at the G8 summit now lol britain, the drug dealers, french providing the munchies, and everyone picking on the germans :D

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

One at 13, two at 14/15 and one right before GCSE's.
As for being a country full of crack babies, nobody even mentioned crack now did they, as it is marijuana is an illegal drug, and common around most of the uk. Habitual users find ways to deal it very cheaply in the north of england, and that is the drug i was referring to.

There is absolutely nothing more that could be done to worsen the state of this country if you did put crack babies in charge of parliament so no valid point there. Personally it may lighten a bit of the debt if britain started using crack babies. We could do a bit of dealing at G8 etc. The government doesn't encourage children to get pregnant. It brought in benefits which were designed to help people. What they haven't done through Labour or the Coalition Government is learn how to control the use of these benefits, and how to prevent benefit fraud. If control over this was learnt, and it was made so that you were better of earning than sitting at home on benefits, then more people would be out looking for work.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Comparing with that, the very expensive price per term private school i went to (on a scholarship i might add, not saying we're loaded etc or trying to show off) there were only 30 kids in the whole of my year. Off that 5 of us (girls) were on scholarships. Out of the other 25 there were another 5 girls and 20 boys. Out of them 5 girls, who's doctor parents and lawyer parents funded their education, 4 of them left before GCSEs due to being pregnant. The other 5 of the girls (the scholarship kids as we were known, majorly disliked for being clever and being from council estates) completed a-levels and university without a single child in sight.

UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

don't knock all british girls, i wouldn't even dream of getting pregnant at 21 (current age) never mind 12! I think my mum would've skinned me alive. The point is british children are having sex as lack of something enjoyable and fun to do. My mum is a youth worker, and since her funding was stopped, and she closed a whole region of youth clubs, 7 of the regular girls have had children. When asked why they thought it was on an outreach schools programme my mum also runs, they say it has been boring with nothing to do since the clubs were shut down that they went to house parties, parks etc drank, used drugs and as a result became pregnant. Two were intentionally done to get housing under the uk benefits system. Currently three kids are in foster care looking to be adopted. Its sad but its true. You don't see as much in other countries because of the fact there is more for youngsters etc to do. You also don't get similar benefits in many other european countries, so it not as publicly highlighted by the media. If kids were less bored i don't think there would be as many teenage pregnancies.

Also not fair to highlight this on council estates. My early to pree teenage years were spent on a council estate, and not one of us from that estate have ever had babies yet. (all a similar age to me) we spent our time building tree houses etc. The estate i live on now in a tiny village is also ex council, and being from a tiny village with nothing to do you would expect high rates of pregnancies, but again they all find things to do, with the youngest mum from the under 25s being 21.

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Is that a Friends quote i detect? :D