delphiandomine
2 Jun 2013
Life / Poland's expats' colonial mentality? [176]
I dunno, I went for a walk earlier. I didn't see much evidence of a hard life. Plenty of flat screen TV's on walls, plenty of nice cars around...and I live in the centre, not in some luxurious lovely osiedle with rich people everywhere.
Have you actually been in Poland recently, Ironside? Poland has changed dramatically since 2004 by all accounts - not least with roads.
People then were working for $25 a month and the country was in huge trouble financially. People are much, much better off now - even if you don't want to admit it.
Some parts aren't great, but what other choice is there? I'd destroy ZUS tomorrow and immediately stop paying pensions on the basis of pre-1990 contributions - but that would result in massive social breakdown. Is that what you want?
What evidence? Unemployment in Poland, money people get, prices, the fact that after million left unemployment is huge.
I dunno, I went for a walk earlier. I didn't see much evidence of a hard life. Plenty of flat screen TV's on walls, plenty of nice cars around...and I live in the centre, not in some luxurious lovely osiedle with rich people everywhere.
I'm not saying that right now people are dying on the street but that with all that EU money and all circumstances did not really improved much.
Have you actually been in Poland recently, Ironside? Poland has changed dramatically since 2004 by all accounts - not least with roads.
I would say that during the transformation when all those big firms have been destroyed. with people in new reality it was better than it is now.
People then were working for $25 a month and the country was in huge trouble financially. People are much, much better off now - even if you don't want to admit it.
It is not about some people who struggle but about the system which is bad and asking for disaster.
Some parts aren't great, but what other choice is there? I'd destroy ZUS tomorrow and immediately stop paying pensions on the basis of pre-1990 contributions - but that would result in massive social breakdown. Is that what you want?