UK, Ireland / Polish workers going back to Britain [14]

Their minimum wage is certainly not enforced if they have one. I've heard of people working for 4PLN per hour distributing fliers. That's about 1 pound. Depending on age, it's around 5.85 in Britain or 5.15 if I'm not mistaken. Inflation has noticeably increased and people here can spend quite a lot. Just look at trolleys in Tesco when you shop. Those people don't look so well off to me either with the way they are dressed.

Plk123, I believe that I said 'some are and some aren't' etc as a patent but you definitely coined one of the phrases that really applies to much of life here. Namely, 'voodoo economics'. It defies belief how some manage on what they have. Many in the West can look forward to saving up some cash after busting a gut but Poles push hard just to break even and make ends meet. That's not life, that's just existence.

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

Hmm....good old procedures :)

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

So what of people who believe in the word of the Bible that haven't been baptised?

What about converts?

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

I don't think they can really insist on a baptism if sb opted out of it when they were young, though. We live in a world where people move around so much more and if an English guy comes to Poland as an unbaptised Christian then he should at least be given the option of getting one to consummate a marriage.

Did you go to church in Scotland? What school did you go to btw?

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

Tell me delph, what is needed for Christian status? Do they see a Protestant as a Christian as some don't? What about those that put on the Christian label but don't go to church? Why should the church rule on them if they are not church-goers?

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

Well, they are heavy on documentation, delph. It can be costly to get sth analogous to the CNI which I needed for my civil marriage. The CNI was 600PLN or so but I remember a Spanish guy here being asked to go through a Catholic marriage and the costs were decidedly higher.

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

There would need to be multiple renewal of vows ;) ;) Oops, you stink again, time to confirm my love after you wash :)

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

LOL, I was almost caught out too as the Registrar detracted from the main speech that I had prepared. No baptisms required of course :)

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

I don't blame you for that ;)

Who knows what Chamberlain would have done at the helm!? He might have tried to help Poland sooner but it's all conjectural speculation.

Love / Church of England - Catholic Marriage in Poland. [23]

Aha, sorry, I misread the thread. I think shush is right on this one. The baptism of a future child is highly encouraged.

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Let's keep mentioning the fact, the war finished 65 years ago. Also, communism brought with it a sense of order. It still has its fans in Poland.

Seanus (definitely not a fan of communism personally)

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

It's what's called a leading question but you can answer it as you wish :) You don't have a gun at your head, do you? ;) Don't be so defensive, I wasn't assuming anything, Sir. Maybe your wife could give you a massage to relax you, ease out that jumpy tension :)

I go along with what you say in your posts, aphro, I read them closely. You made some fine points in your last post!! :) :)

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Hitler and Stalin, imagine history without them :)

Aha, so you believe that the blame culture is very low here, aphro?

When Brits come together as Vets, they share a beer and reminisce positively and don't point fingers.

Betrayal? Britain took 2 days to enter the war.

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

True, it's an international phenomenon :(

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

That's just not true, aphro. Many people in Poland, esp older people, still lay the blame at the feet of others. If you lived here, you would know that.

What is so hard to understand about 2 crazy men with 2 crazy ideologies?

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

We didn't say she was worthless at all. Look at the thread, any future? What future do you see them as having, shush? Any kids? OK, that isn't her priority, fine. An experienced guy to discuss life with? That's great! :) A mortgage paid off? Oops, money again ;) ;)

Freedom of association is a major part of democracy and I'm all for it within reason. It is not our business to choose for others how they live their lives, provided that they stay within certain boundaries accepted by the majority.

Defending your position, maybe he is a Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery :) However, why risk falling ever deeper in love when he will likely die in the near future?

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Oh, do tell Sok, what's the difference. Don't underestimate the Scottish griping factor ;)

Maybe, I have never lived in England so I will let English people comment.

Willingly forgotten? We have history books in GB, you know?

I agree that Poland was the victim of harshly inaccurate literature. Żegota and many other acts of bravery show that! Also, just imagine the punishment for being caught. I don't blame the Poles at all for turning away some Jews. It wasn't their fault Hitler was doolalley.

If reparations ever creep to the fore, I sincerely hope that Tusk rejects all those spurious claims but I have my doubts.

True enough, Wrocław. Appeasement and crazy men were largely to blame but that's just how it was.

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

Being rich doesn't mean you can buy reincarnation ;)

Shush, many Poles are sociable and they are either students or have very little money. That's not an excuse at all and you know it.

Good try, but I wasn't. Read above and you will see that I wasn't blaming just the woman. I called her 'dziwka' with two wink marks which meant I was joking.

I said "each to their own, but yes, dziwka". Each to their own means she is free to make that choice as it is legal and everyone is different. Arien had written dziwka above and we were both tongue-in-cheek.

You are clutching at straws, shush, Arien and I are not against the woman's right to do it, just to say that her motives are dubious and very few lower themselves in that way.

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

I betrayed no-one!

The Scots bi*ch and moan too, Sok. I was talking about a lack of gratitude which is a different thing.

What do you feel I don't understand? Do you think the 'Polish spirit' has part of its roots in WWII? If so, how?

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Oops, sorry, temporary Japanese syndrome ;) ;) That's the only defence I can think of given the gap between the 'r' and 'l' keys :)

I felt there was sth amiss. Thanks for the correction!

Wrocław, how about you? You are complimentary towards many Poles like I am but do you see or hear about blaming?

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

Already knew she was dying? Even better, one step closer to their greedy objective.

Who is talking about the woman being at fault? If a man of 25 did the same then I'm sure Arien would speak out against it too. It just so happens that women tend to sniff around more for men with special paper ;0

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Sokrates, if it isn't money, it's Mel Gibson. What's the deal with that? A Scot should have played that role, Gerald Butler springs to mind.

Anyway, please stay on track as this is more about manners and pointing fingers than it is about Mel Gibson, an American-Aussie.

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

Exactly, Arien. Principles are principles and no amount of money would make me marry sb who is likely close to their death bed and old enough to be my grandma.

Please remind me the ethic of marriage, shush.

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

There was a lot of mutual respect between Scots and Poles during WWII. Many Poles settled after the war due to the warm welcome they received.

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

Aha, does he have probability on his side? ;) ;)

Old Age Pensioner. Yeah, that's right. I am almost 5 years older than my Polish wife. Still, that's not 15, sorry 25, sorry 40, sorry 50, sorry 60 years older, is it? ;)

No, he wouldn't be a hero, just uncommon and dubious. He'd be a gold-digger too.

No, cześć was :)

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

And where does he live, this Mind Reader fella? ;) ;)

Aha, Joan Collins said that she loved younger men and targetted many. Is it any coincidence that they are both rich? How many people you know go for OAPs?

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

That was said with no axes to grind. I have a great Polish family and brilliant friends that go out of their way to help me. I just see a lack of thanks where it would be automatic for me. Ah well, everyone is raised differently and I don't blame them. I'm sure they have good reason!

Love / SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE? [82]

Who is Mind Reader? I've never heard of him! He is Arien and I am Seanus, clear?

How many young men do you see with very old women? Can you name me a case?

History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

The lack of gratitude plays a major part. I've seen it time and again that Poles seem to even expect good deeds and don't thank you for them. At times it is shocking for me!