USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


That’s not a behavior expected that of a statesman accent or no accent period.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]

Getting back on topic, another insult, Obama completely ignored Komorowski, not having a decency to answer the question at hand changing the subject. Makes you wonder if he even listened? Interpreter had a thick accent but still.

Poland is one of the strongest and closest allies of the United States in the world - Barack Obama said during a press conference after meeting with Bronislaw Komorowski . Komorowski attention that "the Polish public opinion completely does not understand why the entire Polish environment can benefit from visa-free travel , and Poland did not ," Obama ... praised the president for a gift - Promoted Polish motifs , which hung on the Christmas tree at his desk .

As Obama said , Poland is also a " leader in Europe " , so very appropriate thing is that the "first visitor from Central and Eastern Europe is the Polish president ."

News / Poles don't have a heart for math... says The New York Times [84]


Funny as this statement may be it all makes perfect sense to your average Yank, like Polish concentration camp, oh wait it’s the same paper, now I get it.

However twisted the logic may seem to you it all makes perfect sense to them; here’s a perfect example:


. As you can deduce for yourself it’s all due to the unfortunate historical events that led to this, there are only stupid people left in Poland now. Besides they have to justify all those dumb Polack jokes somehow, every school chilled in America knows it’s all true and It all starts at an early age, with the story of George Washington and the Cherry Tree, he said he would never tell a lie and ever since no one in America did, then of course we have honest Abe etc. Conditioning starts at very early age, propaganda only exists in a faraway places usually spotted by criticism or what’s viewed as negative depiction of anything American. American media is the only trustworthy source of news and information seen at the checkout line at any supermarket in the form of tabloid dealing with celebrities for the latest gossip cannot be missed and it’s far more important than the news from far away exotic places no one never even heard of. Let’s face it it’s the only place on earth where no one ever lies and after insulting you they just smile and say;


Who are you kidding?

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


For the top executives the governments band over to make sure everything is running smooth, but that always been the case pulling strings no matter what the laws are or where they are. We are talking about an average Joe here though aren’t we?


Agreed hence my statement as it being a pothatic argument wrapped up in old wives tails and urban myths.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


From their perspective there’s no borders or nation states, if the business suffers because of some policy they will put some pressure to settle it but the visa squabble is not really an issue for them is it? The cheap labor is always the locals, they move to greener pastures as soon as new markets open US and Poland would never dare to restrict the way they do their business so really who is who makes no difference or where they choose to locate their facilities. Profit is the king in that game.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


Like the corporations really care, they settle down where the environment is suitable for their business, if they decide to move on it’s based on profitability not individual countries visa policy. What others are bickering about they simply don’t care as long as it’s not affecting them directly, it’s all global these days. Tell me what would US government do? Global corporate giants are not swayed by US foreign policy, it’s the other way around if you ask me. Would US government revoke the free movement of goods or services because it is located in Poland? Please.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


Personally I don’t give a flying Fvck like I have stated in that thread live and let live' for some it's a hard concept to grasp being anal all their pathetic lives.


As tourists but those wishing to stay in Poland, set up business etc. a whole new ball game. Any one wishing to reside in Poland a fair game.



Not at all, it has no bearing on me as an individual. Just having a bit of fun with a pathetic arguments presented here, you on the other hand have a lot to think about if this issue is not resolved soon, the numbers of illegals is staggering.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


Here we have an example of American illegals in Poland on this very forum. Looks like the wave started indeed in America reaching Poland. Them wetback Yanks.

Residency dilemma - illegal worker affecting my income


When it comes to visa US is dealing with each Schengen member on individual basis, argument can be made that since the laws are different for other members verses that of Poland, not only that Poland has the right to do the same but it should .


Like I’ve said, let the hunt began, throw them in jail, retaliation guaranteed.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


I disagree, When it comes to visa US is dealing on individual basis, Schengen has nothing to do with that.


Criminals? Well perhaps from your perspective, many left at the time of transition when the future of Poland was not so clear, settled down, started a family basically started a new life, but if it's criminal throw them in jail. Fine example of American democracy and freedom that would be.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


Why not? What's stopping us besides brown nose attitude of our politicians.


Same since the system keeps them in limbo; many of them have no way to legalize their stay.


Agree, it just makes them look like they are bagging for this privilege when overall it’s not a big deal. Same regulation should apply to Americans as well when visiting Poland.


Present some statistics my dear boy, not some urban myth that was valid half century ago.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


Like it or not there are many that do, not for the economic reasons but close family ties, yes many of them from Podkarpackie. Americans are just being anal about it, Polish politicians don’t know how to play the game, tit for tat - I’ll say.

USA, Canada / Canada Increasingly a Gateway for Undocumented Polish Immigrants Entering the U.S. [150]


You mean all 63 of them? LOL. Indeed, looks like the glory days for the US are over.

Language / Village and towns in Poland with hard to pronounce names [22]

Don’t take it personally it’s not a stab at you; you did your best with the pronunciation of what was written. Do your best with the other two, I wonder how it would be pronounced by non-native.

Language / Village and towns in Poland with hard to pronounce names [22]

For a foreigner perhaps but not for a real Pole, besides shouldn’t it be Dzierdziówka near Stalowa Wola or Drożdżówka near Warsaw, never heard of Drzerdrzuwka, somehow it don’t seem right.

Life / Expats in Poland - would you fight for your new country? [105]


Poles were always itching for a fight, during WWI there were over 3.5 million Polish nationals serving in various armies all of them foreign since Poland was not independent at the time, WWII same story. In most recent history as an example there were more Poles serving in Iraq in foreign uniform then there were Poles send there on the mission from Poland but I assume you have Spain in mind. In Spain Polish volunteers fighting on the side of anti-fascist were only second to the French in numbers.

Life / Expats in Poland - would you fight for your new country? [105]


The good times in PL ended when the first shortages started, that was in 76 when the sugar rations were first issued, 80’s - well it would be hard for any foreigner to understand unless they themselves lived through it all. Perhaps I misunderstood his statement but Delphi’s theory is that the violence and other social problems plaguing the west are due to the social divide and wealth distribution which will rear its ugly head in Poland as soon as that divide is more evident. Social standing or social economic background of individuals in Poland at that time really made no difference except for the type of work one did. Everyone was in the same boat for almost everyone had to cope with reality just the same, except for the very few at the very top. Even those that did have the access to the goods through their connections still had to jump through hoops in order to get them but it’s precisely the lack of those goods that brought everyone even closer. The need for the change was equally expressed by intelligentsia, farmers, workers and even the lower class bureaucrats in the communist party. The lack of wealth or even the goods was not enough to turn the people against each other to compete for those resources, so if by some chance Poland will be a more dangerous place to live in the near future, it will be other factors than simple competition or wealth distribution that will bring that about.

Life / Foreigners commenting on Poland - a minefield? [30]


Either that or you simply don’t pay enough, no incentive makes people care less if they lose a lousy job. Blessing in disguise if you ask me.

USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]


Is there one in a trailer?


Ah to be one with nature in the great open spaces of Wisconsin.

Life / Foreigners commenting on Poland - a minefield? [30]


And if he did go that extra mile he would be called a dumb Polack, he learns quickly, commendable.

Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Plenty, even an average looking girl can look like a million bucks if she takes care of herself.

Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]


That’s what mothers told their ugly daughters so they don’t feel bad about their looks, having said that to each their own.

Life / Foreigners commenting on Poland - a minefield? [30]

Rogalski your post shows how little you know about Poland and its people, where there are two Poles there’s three opinions, that’s always been the case.

Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]

Nice professional models and photos.

USA, Canada / CULTURE SHOCK! (of my Polish finance who visited the US) [210]


He’s still a Pole, isn’t he?

Life / How popular is Radio Maryja in Poland? [163]


It’s a rather good mental illness that teaches morals and puts on the breaks and curtails their behavior verses the ones that seen the light and were never thought ethics. For them, I is the king, want is the drive leading to chaos, a much crueler world that would be.

Life / Expats in Poland - would you fight for your new country? [105]


Somehow it was not the case when entire country was dirt poor and everyone suffered, then again everyone was in the same boat but would not bet on it.

Life / Why Poland is "surprised" by winter and snow every year? [192]


Welcome to the club, clueless authorities - now there’s a shocker.

UK, Ireland / The more subtle differences: Ireland/Britain v Poland [310]

Come down there, your farts might reach Moscow then what?

Love / Good looking Polish women with ugly men [416]


Jealous?

History / Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians [60]


Even there you will find Polish accent. I once read that there were two Poles that took part in that voyage Wyzdarwoda and Tyrker according to some old Icelandic Saga where they were mentioned, although some think that Tyrker himself might have been German from Bavaria. According to the Saga it was him that pointed out the vine plant with which he was very familiar and for which the new land was named. There also was an article in Journal de Genève in the 60’s where some lunatic claimed that Leif Eriksson himself was Polish borne in Kołobrzeg and he as his direct descendent has proof to back up his claim. Both of those were never explored any further so just file them under science fiction for now and treat it as an interesting bit of trivia.