Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]


Ah yes. Although it looks like EN it is pronounced like IN


Likewise with the first one. Depends on regional accent sometimes and also, words can often be overpronounced.

I think maybe the same happens with Pięć.

(Here we go again with Polish/English phonetics, but) it should be, as far as I know, pyench but a Pole told me that some Poles, trying to appear sophisticated may overpronounce as pyounch.


I know what you mean. English is wildly inconsistent re pronunciation. And again, a huge variety of regional accents doesn't help.

Take, in the SE of England can be pronounced TYKE

In the NW, as TEK in the NE as TEA-AK or even TAK.

: )

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Poles often pronounce beach a bit like b1tch

And sheet a bit like sh1t too

: )


Sorry, don't know what you mean - can you give examples?

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

I'm not sure if we are on the same page here: the NO sound in the word NOTE should be pronounced the same as the word NO, but you may not pronounce NO properly :)

It should be a very strong O not short like stop or plot or not

But not OO either like pool or rude

It should be as in Romeo

Language / Pronunciation of vowels at the end of a word [28]


I think so - the problem is I am using phonetics po angielsku and you po polsku
: )

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]


No : )

First one, as in NOte, second one is a very short "oh" and the third, the short "uh" sound, as mentioned previously.

Gnat would be pronounced nat.

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

Yep. It's my biggest problem when teaching. Note/not/nut etc.

The short U sound, like "uh" doesn't seem to exist in Polish.

Language / Pronunciation of vowels at the end of a word [28]


Maybe that's the wrong way of putting it - I mean like massage

Language / Pronunciation of vowels at the end of a word [28]

Yeah, OK. I should have put F rather than V - wasn't really thinking.

It's still difficult for me either way!

Language / Pronunciation of vowels at the end of a word [28]


I always say it this way. Maybe I shouldn't bother!

For me, w porządku is pretty awkward, the V and quickly followed P and ZH sounds.

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]

OK - just FYI by the way - I have never hit a woman and have no intention of doing so, in fact have hardly ever hit anyone, at least not since school, and neither am I in any sort of abusive relationship.

Just throwing the scenario out there.

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]


WTF?!

Am I in some alternate universe where opposites apply?

Let's be clear - someone is attacking me, could possibly kill me, and according to pgtx if they are a woman and I strike them I am being macho or something and according to you I need to be careful that I don't 'mouth off' as it will only make things worse?!

Worse than being scarred for life or potential DEATH ?

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]

You mean back away maybe? Ducking & avoiding, all the way home or until your assailant gets tired or bored?

And the next time? No way to live your life IMO.

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]


Nothing to do with it. There are consequences to actions and both men and women need to realise this. Most men do. Many women choose not to - or at least are self righteously cocooned with their belief that they can act with violence, with impunity.


...and then you can answer yourself with "random sh1te happens".

How do you appease someone swinging a bottle at you for example? and unless the police are standing beside you, they won't be much use either.

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]


Why though? If a drunken maniac basically assaults me it is he (or she) who should have kept their self control. Why should anyone, male or female, get away with this behaviour?

Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]

I accept that this must happen - in certain circumstances - but I can't understand why it's anything but very rare.

Probably not a popular answer, but aside from "you pig" type arguably justified indignant slaps from a partner or something, if e.g. a random woman punched me in the face I would punch her back.

Life / Polish history questions on the streets; Poles are not doing great. [37]


No, it's not.

Women could vote in Sweden, Britain, South Australia for example with only some restrictions (relative to the era) e.g. had to be married, restricted to local elections etc.

Life / Polish history questions on the streets; Poles are not doing great. [37]

Depends what you meant Ashley - which is why I said not exactly.


This is not exactly what you said at first.

Other countries did "give women the vote" prior to NZ - in fact 100+ years before in some cases.

Life / Polish history questions on the streets; Poles are not doing great. [37]


Not exactly - Sweden may hold that honour.

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


LOL

crackle "I need back-up here. At least three homosexual white males, unarmed. Seems like a gay situation might develop - any cars in the area?"

Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]


But it wasn't an error, that's what I'm saying!

I meant to post what I posted.

Like "That's me finished" or "That's me done" etc

It has happened. That lets me off the hook is subtly different.


...is the functional part of the phrase

Idioms are not sacrosanct quotes - they can be adapted like everything else : )


As is the case with British English, as posted - though I suspect that Lyzko may have issues with this ; )

USA, Canada / Not everyone that lives or comes from America is RICH! [300]


wow - is it?

I must be a wierdo then - I have loads of hobbies!

Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]


I beg to differ my friend : )

That's/That is me off the hook - i.e. removal from the hook has already happened as far as I'm concerned. I'm not agreeing that AJ's stipulation permits any future conditional scenario. I have already assumed total exhoneration - it is in the past.

Almost like the present perfect.

It's all colloquial yes, I know, but it is what I meant to say : )

Language / Easiest Language To Learn from English to Polish... [13]


Fair enough - didn't know that. Although to many mainland Spaniards, South American Spanish tends to cause a few chuckles anyway - usually not of a charitable nature either.

Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]


*phew*

That's me off the hook then ; )

Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]


Not for me. I was that child above and in a mini rebellion I made the conscious decision some years ago to use can : )

May=more polite, more 'classically' correct but vaguely archaic and not more friendly IMO.


No better man to start one AJ - away you go!


But that's the point - it isn't any longer.

It's official now : )

Language / The Future of Polish Language [179]


Here's one for you - I'm sure many English speakers of a certain generation will be familiar with this childhood example:

"Daddy, can I go out to play"

"Yes, I'm sure you can. If you mean may you go out to play then, yes, you may. "

However, within the last ten years or so, "can" for permission, has been deemed as acceptable usage by most modern texts/grammar references.

Does this make your blood boil or do you grudgingly accept this?

: )

Love / Polish relationships (race and religion) [140]


Lennon by the way, although very talented musically, was quite hyprocrital in terms of all his imagine/hippy stuff.

He was a bad tempered, bitter and often nasty & cruel individual by most accounts.

Life / Polish gimnazjums - memoirs of a teacher [32]


It might differ across the English speaking countries but "college" to me isn't really something specific. It may very much depend on what goes in front of the term though. Certainly if you said you were at "technical college" the assumption would be that it was some sort of specialised institution with a mechanical/practical aspect and not what would be understood as a university.

For me, the phrase "when I was at college" though tends just to mean "at 3rd level education" and is the phrase used instead of, for example, "during my studies" which is what Poles seem to say.

"University", as a term, is much less prestiguous than it once was for English speakers - many colleges in the UK that were previously known as "Polytechnics" for example became universities in the last couple of decades - and not necessarily through any vast improvement in reputation/ethos or whatever.

Travel / Vegetarian places to eat in Krakow [30]


Nice one! I couldn't think of the name of this place -they are a chain?

If so, I was in the one in £ódź in Piotrkowska.

Wasn't bad at all.

Travel / Vegetarian places to eat in Krakow [30]

For a quick bite of lunch there is always the milk bar type places - I suppose quality might vary but you can get a heap of largely veggie based, nutritious and fairly tasty stuff very cheaply.

Wouldn't eaxactly be a prime destination for a dinner date though.