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fathersforlife.org/pizzey/planned_destruction_of_family.htm
I read only part of the article as I knew where it would head and because it was written terribly. But I did take some time to analyse and dig into your sources and here is what I found and why I think I can dismiss your sources as not being credible.
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From the same site:
The Marketing of Evil
How 'gay rights' is being sold to America
Exposed: Powerful manipulation techniques behind radical homosexual agenda
Gay Men
Prevalence of homosexuality in men: The ten-percent myth
Gay Men - Suicide and Homosexual Psychopathology- two studies
Gay Nazis
And there are plenty of those on the fathersforlife site. Needless to say we can tell from which side the wind is blowing and also needless to say that feminism would never get a fair chance on reactionairy sites like this. But lemme continue:
They actually state that in the case of Domestic Violence, the women are more violent than men. While I not deny that there are male victims of Domestic Violence, the vast majority of victims is of course women. Let's see what the official website domesticviolence.org says about percentages:
- 1 in 3 American women have been physically or sexually abused by her husband or bf at some point in their lives.
- 30 per cent of all female murders were committed by husband or bf
- 40 to 60 per cent of the men who abuse women, also abuse kids.
domesticviolence.org/common-myths/
Who are the victims according to domesticviolence.org? Let's see:
Although both men and women can be abused, most victims are women. Children in homes where there is domestic violence are more likely to be abused and/or neglected
domesticviolence.org/who-are-the-victims/
Let's see what fathersforlife.org thinks they have to say about the topic:
For example, about the US Violence Against Women Act:
This (article) is an excellent assessment of the evolution and of the impact of the US Violence Against Women Act, a piece of discriminatory legislation that surpasses in absurdity but not in effectiveness anything that the jurists of the Third Reich devised to rationalize the eradication of "sub-humans" and other undesirable "enemies of the state".
fathersforlife.org/fv/family_violence_main_page.htm - (Link 2-a)
Well then, what is so remarkable about the article? Well, this:
VAWA fails to acknowledge that every responsible study shows that women commit about 65% of child abuse, and at least equal violence against men.
dadsnow.org/vawa/vawa2.htm
Hey, that is weird. The official site says that 1 in 3 women have been abused at some point in their life and that 40 to 60 per cent of the perpetrators are men. Hm, this overlaps the 65 per cent dadsnow.org mentions...So, what happens in those overlapping families? Both mom and dad beat eachother's heads in and after that take on their kids together? Does that make sense? Hm, don't think so.
So, now that we've established in what source Erin Pizzey's piece has been used we can now start to understand why it has been used and why it was pulled out of context. Yet again only one dissenting opinion is being presented as proof that the entire feminist-movement is one shambles. And remarkably this is presented to us by the same group that states that women are more than twice as violent as men, call gay ppl evil with a hidden agenda to take over the US and ignores the official figures when it comes to domestic violence.
But besides all that, Erin Pizzey's is too assuming and too self fulfilling prophecy. Pizzey states in her book "Prone for Violence" that most female victims basically are to blame themselves for what happens to them, they are looking for the violence a monster of a guy can provide them. With this remark Pizzey is way off line and she misses the point completely in this case. While indeed some women will subconsciously look for violent partners, the act of violence in itself directed at them is not a favourable one and the fact that she may have no backbone in that respect does NOT justify any violence against either her or her children. Let's ask the official website again:
Abusers often have low self-esteem. They do not take responsibility for their actions. They may even blame the victim for causing the violence. In most cases, men abuse female victims. It is important to remember that women can also be abusers and men can be victims
Hey! They too admit that there are female abusers. But of course the biggest number is, again, men.
domesticviolence.org/who-are-the-abusers - (Link 4)
Whereas fathersforlife.org only states and emphasizes that it's the women who are the abusive ones and men have to suffer from this terrible myth, the official website admits that there are also femal abusers, however, the vast majority is men.
Let's go back to Erin:
In Prone to Violence she writes, according to Wiki:
In her book Prone to Violence (full text available online) Pizzey has propounded the theory that many of the women who took refuge had a personality such that they sought abusive relationships. Pizzey describes such behaviour as akin to addiction.
So far so good. Although this is only fractionally true, let's continue:
She speculates that high levels of hormones and neurochemicals associated with pervasive childhood trauma lead to adults who repeatedly engage in violent altercations with intimate partners despite the physical, emotional, legal and financial costs, in unwitting attempts to simulate the emotional impact of traumatic childhood experiences.
Aha! So it's them darn hormones and neurochemicals again in combi with dad who couldn't keep his hands to himself! So that's already two violent men in this type of woman's life. But let's see what else is there:
The book contains numerous stories of disturbed families alongside a discussion of the reasons why the modern state care-taking agencies are largely ineffective
Of course shelters are ineffective when all these victims of domestic violence are basically nutters who liked to either have sex with dad and be beaten up by him and now that dad is gone, they have grown so fond of it, they just go on a search for the next psycho who will fcuk and beat the crap out of her...Hm. With an extra bonus this time: the children! Who gives a shyte about them? These little boggers should never think they can come between the holy fighting bond she has with her violent psycho guy!
But let's continue as now the part comes in which Erin betrays herself and we can put her laughingly into the trashbin as far as her judgement about Women's movements and feminism is concerned:
According to many webpages, Pizzey has said, or has been quoted as saying: "Men are gentle, honest and straightforward. Women are convoluted, deceptive and dangerous."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
This could come right out of fathersforlife.org! And of course it's in there as it suits their needs. However, for the evaluation of the feminist movement and feminism in general it has no value at all. Erin is dismissed.
Well, I could go on about Georgie Roph and his pseudo-scientific approach (which of cours has only one outcome as it can only have one outcome, if you know what I mean), but I will suffice with just one quote from his work quoted in his "Letter to America" as provided by Zimmy in his second link. Georgie writes:
The domestic abuse industry is saturated in gender bias, as any examination of the literature it produces will show any reasonable person. From the thousands of so-called "studies" carried out by special interest groups, to the leaflets and advertising surrounding the abuse phenomenon, it is obvious that society has blinkers on when it comes to thinking about who perpetrates the abuse. The questions are, one, why has this bias come about and, second, who are the victims of it?
Answering the second question first the answer is simple: Men!
If the answer to the second question is so simple, well, what would the answer be to the first question? Of course: the women's movements to protect the victims:
First of all the domestic abuse industry is run almost entirely by women. Many of these women are themselves victims of abuse or have worked closely with female victims of abuse. This, I submit, tends to give these women a skewed and deeply prejudicial view of men. At their most harmless these views will be shaped by the experiences these women have suffered and make them tend to be suspicious of anything men may do or say about abuse. At the worst, these views may lead to a pathological hatred of men and a deep desire for revenge. I suggest that both of these views are common within the abuse industry today. What is more, I suggest that these are the reasons why the female dominated abuse industry is almost totally unable to even countenance that women can be abusive also, irrespective of the evidence we might show them to prove otherwise.
dvmen.org/dv-23.htm
I for one don't believe in the proof of individuals like Georgie, who rap about the
abuse-industry and set the tone for what the outcome will be; I'd rather rely on state- and government figures as they tend to be as correct as pssbl as the govt doesn't have an agenda to uphold on these numbers. Georgie's, Erin's and fatherforlife's agenda is obvious: trying to divert as much of the attention away fromt he real perpetrators. Anyway, this should take care of the sources, and how to look at the articles given.
Once you come up with truly neutral and accurate sources on this topic I will have a look at them again.
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M-G (haec hactenus)
