USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

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USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Delphiandomine, you are now claiming that I am comparing your asinine hounding of me, and other Polish-Americans, on this forum to the sufferings of Poles in WW2! I made no such comparison. Stop being such a crazy person.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Delphiandomine your obnoxious conjectures regarding my life and my ancestry are baseless personal attacks. I am not a Communist, nor do I have Communist leanings. You are clearly a crazy person intent upon persecuting me and others on this forum. Seek professional help.

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I think apples are indeed native to Poland. There is an interesting story in the Arabian Nights called "The Three Apples" which demonstrates an interesting paradox about food items. In Europe nothing is more cheap and commonplace than apples but for the Arabs that composed, and listened, to that story they were considered a rare treasure the possession of which gave rise to envy and adventure.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Dlphiandomine, I am bemused by you, a rude Scot, telling me, a Polish-American, that neither I, nor my family, is Polish. Your presumption is hilariously deformed and your claim that the cuisine at Warszawa restaurant is not Polish has been shown to be a lie by several posters who have admitted that many of the items on its menu are indeed Polish. Your are a liar. The expansive Polish spirit has been passed down through the generations in my family and it is something that you will never have as is evinced by your pettiness upon this forum. You cannot disprove the truth of my post #488, that you qoute above, and so you fall back to pointing out at I am not currently living in Poland. There has been a Polish diaspora that has resulted in Polish people living all over the world. Your silly claim that members of this diaspora are not Polish is yet another one of your lies. Keep lying liar and we Polish-Americans will keep laughing at you. As for your assertion that I am clinging "desperately" to any hope regarding my ancestors iets it is yet another obnoxious conjecture by a person with absolutely no sense of decency. You will eentually be banned from this forum, as the sword of Damocles already hangs over your head. You really should watch youself. As for Warszawa Restaurant everyone commenting on the menu has admitted that its menu has Polish dishes, except for you, and thus your claim above that others have completely denied its authenticity is yet another lie on your part. Why don't you tell the truth? Was falsification something you were taught to engage in at clown college?

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Truly Seanus many foods now associated with certain countries are not native to those countries. The potato is a good example as it comes from South America and so latkas were unkown in Europe until the 16th century or later. So too with the chili pepper is another import from the New World. Take the example of Korean food which is now known for being quite inbued with the hot chili peppars, but hot chilis are totally absent from older Korean recipes, which have survived down throught the centuries, and are now back in vogue in Korea. No one denies that these fireless dishes being served at traditional Korean restaurants are still Korean dishes, and so I disagree with those on this thread that claim that traditional Polish manor fare being revived and served in modern Polish restaurants is somehow not Polish because it is atypical in Poland today. The Koreans understand that both contemporary spicy Korean fare as well as bland traditional Korean fare are both Korean, and Poles should understand that both Polish peasant/proletarian food and szlachta food is Polish as well.

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Thank you for your confirmation Ironside. Sebastian, you underestimate the variety of your national cuisine. Seanus, herring, salmon, lambs, and pigs have no nationality they are animals that diverse nations use in their cuisine, but thank you for admitting that Warszawa's menu includes Polish dishes despite your rude Scottish compatriot's denials.

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Warszawa Restaurant in Santa Monica offers five kinds or pierogi, numerous Polish salads and soups and other Polish specialties. It is indeed real Polish food although somewhat expensive, but there are numerous wealthy Polish-Americans, and other people in Southern Califoria, that can afford it and they have made it an extremely successful restaurant. People claiming Polish food must be cheap and simple are quite simply wrong. It is true that decades of Soviet domination left Poland poor but that doesn't mean that the rich culinary traditions of previous Polish history are no longer Polish. I suspect that those on the thread saying otherwise do so because they themselves are rather lowbrow and they feel intimidated by refined Poles and so they foolishly pretend that all Poles are as uncultured as themselves. This is wrong as Polish, and Polonian, posters demonstrate on this forum everyday. Here is a link to Warszawa Restaurant's menu: warszawarestaurant.com/menu.html

Perhaps a Polish reader of this thread could examine it and tell us if the dishes offered are Polish or not.

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Delphiandomine by writing such an obnoxious sentence you have once again demonstrated your utter lack of any nobility and shown the forum what disgusting pathetic hate-filled person you are. You really should receive the year long ban that the administration has threatened you with. You have absolutely no honor and you are an embarrassment to this forum.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Polish food is food prepared according to recipes developed by Poles that uses ingredients found in Poland. Polish recipes have been heavily influenced by recipes from other countries. Most notably France. Long ago in Poland when a nobleman would invite a fellow to dine he would say the Polish equivalent of "Let's have some boiled beef" but that changed as the kingdom of Poland expanded and its people were introduced to more sophisticated modes of cooking. Polish food thus runs the gamut from simple to sophisticated and it is not to be narrowly defined. Those of you claiming that the menu from Warszawa Restaurant in Santa Monica, which is available for reading online, is not Polish are merely being petulant losers and you are akin to idiots that would go to a Thai restaurant and claim that its menu isn't Thai because curry is from India and noodles are from China.

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You know several, which I doubt, and so you claim that this proves that no elite Polish cooks cook Polish food and you once again demonstrate your penchance for idiotic inductive reasoning. Warszawa Restaurant is a successful Polish restaurant.

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Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

I am a Polish-American Californian which means that I am in a way French in that we tend to have Gallic tastes because we are from a wine-growing and a style-making part of the world.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

Tea is the third meal of the day! In my opinion an evening meal without wine is barbaric.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


No we do not eat another meal at 4 pm here and I frankly cannot understand how anyone in their right mind would eat more than three meals a day. As for the beverage tea I drink green tea with my breakfast every morning, like a chinaman, and I highly recommend it, as it needs neither sugar nor milk and it has alot of vitamin C.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


The key word in this sentence is mostly. It is the refrain of all the Polish bashers on this forum and it is wearing thin. You all want to deny that Poland, like other countries has an elite, and this goes for its cooks as well. No one cares if most Poles eat bland food. Most people living in most countries are boring. So what? Polish food can also be quite complex and the thriving Polish restaurant in my part of the USA serves aristocratic Polish food. You fuzzywickets foolishly claim that Polish food cannot be fancy and you are wrong.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

Yes Wroclaw "dinner" and "supper" are still used in the north of England but in your capital "lunch" has usurped "dinner" and "dinner" has replaced "supper" so I am not all wrong, and you are all wrong for saying so. Here in America the meals are termed using the Southern English mode as well.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

The term "lunch" was not introduced into English until the 19th century. The afternoon meal was formerly called "dinner" in english and the evening meal was called "supper" in English. Now the evening meal is called "dinner" in English and "supper" is archaic. The Poles have a word for "lunch" and it is "obiad".

Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

I mistakenly claimed that all neanderthals are now believed to have been red-headed above in post 1,219. Although the presence of a gene for red-headedness has been found by scientists in neanderthal remains none claim that all the neanderthals were redheads.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]


If those cave-people pictured above in #1,211 are really supposed to be Neanderthals, and not some other homonid, then the museum really should give them red-hair because that species, which was exclusive to Europe, is now believed to have been completely red-headed.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Someone on this forum has GOT to point out that the posters claiming to know what is, and what is not, a "typical" Polish or American meal are generalizing so much that, rather than providing the reader with any pertinent information regarding this thread's topic, they are merely revealing their own prejudices.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


Here is a link to a prominent LA Public Television show's visit to Polka Restaurant:

History / What nation do Poles feel closer to? [74]


This country is Italy.

USA, Canada / Polish or American Education? [180]


The American system may unfortunately do the latter to your kids. Over the past several years "standards tests" have become a fixture in American public schools. Teachers are now forced to teach for these tests rather than freely explore the cirriculum with an eye towards sparking and/or accomodating the interests of their students.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

I assume that upon entering a restaurant called "Mr. Smoke BBQ" many people were taken aback to find that it was actually a Polish restaurant, and, Southern BBQ being a "down home" American cuisine, the sorts of folk drawn to it are probably among the more reluctant to try an unknown "ethnic food" so surprizingly foisted upon them. Many may have even felt deliberately duped by a shadey restauranteur, but this one example of why a Polish restaurant was not successful in the USA is must be rather anomolous, and thus of little consequence in answering this thread's query.

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That restaurant was mentioned earlier in the thread by Beckski, in post # 321, and she attributed its failure not to its menu, nor to its service, but to the fact that its name didn't identify it as a Polish restaurant, but merely as a BBQ. This most likely prevented many people seeking an exotic dining experience from trying it and frustrated other diners coming in off the street looking for typical Southern American BBQ fare.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

This thread's titular question, if it is read as a blanket statement about all Polish restaurants in the USA, is based upon a false assumption, because not all Polish restaurants in the USA are unsuccessful. If this thread's titular question is meant to refer to specific Polish restaurants in the USA that have failed, then it should include examples of failed Polish restaurants in the USA, but this thread has few, if any, of those. However, this thread is amusing in that it provides numerous examples of the twisted illogical contortions that some people will engage in to deny Poland's culinary acheivements.

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Your lack of knowledge regarding what is, and what is not, a valid argument is showing here Delphiandomine. (I suggest you attend university and take a course in critical reasoning.) I never claimed that the majority of Polish people ate manor fare. That however doesn't make it any less Polish.

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]


Did you observe this in Poland pgtx? Many people claim that this phenomena, in America, is due to bovine growth hormone being injected into dairy cows that then makes its way into the milk young girls drink. Is bovine growth hormone injected into dairy cows in Poland?

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This is an utterly foolish argument that denies one-thousand years of Polish culinary tradition preceding 1945. There is traditional Polish food that is fancy because the wealthy szlachta were Polish and their cooks, who were also Polish, devised fancy Polish fare. Please read Ironsides' post #384 and be disabused of your false reasoning Fuzzywickets.

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Foreigner, your comparison of Polish and American cuisine is instructive. You say you associate the latter with


but you shouldn't deny the fact that there exist more refined dishes in American cuisine which the American food critic James Beard documented so well. The same goes for Polish cuisine. You wrote:


Just because the majority of Poles are not chefs doesn't make good Polish chefs, or the dishes they prepare, un-Polish.