Food / Is black tea disappearing from supermarkets in Poland? [29]


Bawarka tends to be much milkier than the way M&S black tea is meant to be drunk.

Saga and Lipton seem to be the biggest brands of black tea in Poland. Their bags contain less tea and are a weaker blend.

As far as I know they still sell well, despite the proliferation of foul flavoured teas. Green tea is becoming more popular and here are genuine health benefits in drinking this.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


It would actually be very difficult to ignore it - though they haven't given it the publicity it deserves. Platforma are nevertheless doing the right thing as usual.

Food / Is black tea disappearing from supermarkets in Poland? [29]


There's is certainly the best of the easily available brands. their extra-strong bags are good (but made for drinking with a little milk added).

The local brands (though certainly not disappearing - what a silly thread title) tend to be weaker and lower quality.

Work / Help and Guidance needed on Poland Work and Move. Gdansk, Senior Management role salary. [11]

1. That's a good salary, not below average for a senior post\
2. To a point. Educated people, especially younger people speak it. Waiters etc usually do. Don't automatically expect shop staff or cab drivers to know English.

Work / Help and Guidance needed on Poland Work and Move. Gdansk, Senior Management role salary. [11]

1. About 16000zl. wynagrodzenia.pl/kalkulator_oblicz.php
2. Yes, easily and very comfortably.
3. Yes, these are easily available.
4. The baby will not be born Polish unless either you or your wife/husband have Polish citizenship.

Language / Collins Intermediate Level Audio Course in Polish [10]

Basically just launch yourself into it. Aim to make a hundred mistakes a day and don't feel self-conscious about it. A Polish partner and friends who speak little or no English helps.

Remember though that these audio courses like Collins, Pimsleur etc and the multimedia thingies are not some magic solution, that if you listen and repeat or whatever, you'll eventually find yourself speaking a language without any effort (as the Linguaphone courses on LP used to promise). They are just one tool and you have to approach it in different ways.

Audio courses are at best a supplement to other learning materials and strategies.

Work / Cost of living in Lodz, is 2450-6400 PLN salary enough? [25]

Not really. Here's a price list and remember, there's petrol on top:
49zl.pl/cennik.html

Travel / Ryanair flying domestic in Poland? [46]


Roz, they're jammed full of people and not all of them (especially to northern England) can really be called cheap flights. Crap flights maybe, but not always so cheap due to selling out well in advance.

Travel / Ryanair flying domestic in Poland? [46]


Yep, and their shares have rocketed so they must be raking it in. The routes from/to/in Poland must be helping it and they're also keeping Modlin open single-handed. The staff have to buy their own uniforms and only get paid when the plane's actually in the air!

It always feels like a bit of an ordeal flying on them.

Travel / Ryanair flying domestic in Poland? [46]


Ryanair is an Irish airline.


I shall take that as a direct and very welcome invitation to quote back some of your appalling posts. But not in this thread.

And yes, Ryanair boarding in Modlin is a scrum and the flights do not lack scuzzy people - have you ever used it?

Work / Cost of living in Lodz, is 2450-6400 PLN salary enough? [25]


Yes, that's possible.


On that salary, you would have a room in a shared flat. You would need to be careful, however it is possible to live on that.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]



Quite - although the improvement in education is discernible despite it lagging behind in sex education, ethics, civics etc. One issue is the lack of accurate league tables although that can of course work the other way.

Re. homeschooling/sex education/social education, the Polish state is right to strictly control it. We do not want the problems they sometimes have in America with homeschooled kids being thoroughly indoctrinated and unprepared for the outside world.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


And this was a worse situation before the current administration.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


Exactly, and the system is a success. Some small groups like that tiny bunch of placard-wavers are motivated by religious fundamentalism to believe that they are always right. That their particular view has divine inspiration. Never mind common sense, logic, expert analysis, tried and tested research - this means nothing to them as long as it conflicts with their prejudice.

A shame educationalists have to deal with this sort of thing.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


And rightly so - this has always been the case. Poland has a rich history of education being organised on a national level, right back to the Eighteenth Century Komisja Edukacji Narodowej.

Needless to say, right from the start it was always more progressive than a small but scorchingly vocal group of ultra-conservative fundamentalists would wish. The vast majority do not kvetch as these cranks do. They can always go off and form a school of their own, provided they adhere to the appropriate standards.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


"Had their fill" is an odd phrase to use for the longest lasting and most successful democratic administration in Poland, ever.


Spot on. One issue to worry about is that the youngest generation of voters have dim memories of how appalling the last government was, not least because it was so short-lived.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


You can't separate the scams of PiS from your criticisms of the government; quite simply they are mostly 'afery' whipped up by PiS with about as much credibility as old biddies attempting to provoke a village feud.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]

Well, people can home school if they want, or set up a school of their own provided it maintains certain standards (and these do include social education). Individual parents cannot however force their will on the educators - following that daft logic, a parent could interfere with the whole curriculum on the basis of their whims.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


You've summed up the short-lived PiS regime very succinctly.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


Yes, with bible quotes etc. Nobody pays attention to them, rather like this recent mini-protest.

Work / Moving from India to Warsaw to study. Need information about Warsaw city, jobs etc. [40]


Many students do get work, including overseas ones if their level of Polish is sufficient, however these jobs tend not to pay very well and they are short lived due to the employer firing them as soon as the trial period is over, for tax reasons. Since you are from India, I would suggest making contact with the Indian community in Warsaw (in Raszyn) - this may well be very useful to you.


You've written that exact phrase so many times that it must be a cut and paste. A search for the phrase here: ?phrase=the+very+safe+assumption

shows that you've cut and pasted it 27 times recently, all to students from Asia. Dominic, you are not an expert, nor are you in Poland. Just because you didn't make it yourself while you were living out in the provinces teaching English does not mean that a motivated and hard-working Indian student can't make a success of their time in Warsaw.

News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]


Most of these are highly commendable.

Work / Moving from India to Warsaw to study. Need information about Warsaw city, jobs etc. [40]

Not very much, if at all. A few jobs cooking Indian food, however work for students is scarce.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]

Those two sentences contradict each other as blatantly as the sentiments behind them contradict reality.

Now in terms of eloquent and non-judgemental replies, that must come fairly low down the scale. Unfortunately for you, we in Poland have been having something of a debate on this issue over the last couple of years and you are not only too late to appreciate what has gone before, but (as those two bigoted posts show) way below the required level of discourse to be worth listening to.

There is however one overriding fact - that educationalists in Poland do know what they're talking about, are sensitive to the various shades of opinion within Polish society and the wider European framework and the social, gender and sex education now available takes that into account - there is simply nothing whatsoever controversial, except perhaps the lack of accurate and detailed information.

This crowd of placard-waving crazies on the demonstration are, as you, entirely ignorant of the issues and probably of quite a lot else.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


Now as far as stupid statements go, that one takes the biscuit. The issue is very complex and at the moment (you wouldn't know this) is a hot topic of debate in Poland with several points of view - most of them far less simplistic and ignorant than yours. The current protest about social education in schools by Nycz and his obsessives is about imposing one particular paradigm rather than a more rounded education.


The issue there is how many perpetrators (who admitted it to their superiors) were quietly spirited away and allowed to re-offend, and how many crimes were admitted in the so-called confession and never reported by the person who heard them. Proper sex education would at least tell kids that 'stranger danger' may not be from a stranger, but from a priest, monk, nun or catechist as well.


Sadly yes.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


I certainly think that comes into it, but mostly it's just aggressive and judgemental misanthropes looking for problems that don't exist so they can get all hot and bothered. It's analagous to The Daily Mail's famous 'daily hate'. Some people are just haters.

In Poland we had the same thing with the Family of Radio Maryja's mohair berets protesting against non-existent threats. The obsession at the moment in Poland is with gender. Plenty of people railing about things they don't understand and which largely aren't there.

Food / Perfect Pierogi? (keen to perfect the recipe) [12]

Here's a nice one:
ugotuj.to/ugotuj/-13209168/pierogi+z+kapusta+i+grzybami/p/

If you prefer in English, try one of those things that translated whole webpages or have a look at this one:
goodfood.uktv.co.uk/recipe/pierogi-1/

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]


There isn't any. What bigots can't stand is the idea of a neutral point of view being presented.

Unfortunately in this world there are individuals who just love being offended and getting worked up about it.

News / Polish Parents protest against Poland's pro-homo sex education [75]

Good that the state's trying to improve social education in schools, and looking at the pictures of the oddballs with that Nycz person, I don't think there's anything to worry about. The mainstream is tired of these placard wavers, 'defenders of the cross', Family Of Radio Maryja, etc. they've simply lost their impact.

News / Poland's Archbishop Wesolowski trial starts [28]

67 even, and had taken ill a month ago.

If he was innocent, the stress of the accusations and facing a wrongful conviction would have been huge. And if he was guilty, I expect the stress of facing prison must have been huge. Plus all the changes in his life after being laicised.

I doubt he went to the gym much either.

They just buried him, in Poland too. He'll never now get the chance to prove his innocence nor be proven guilty. The quote below is nevertheless a smoking gun.


krqe.com/2015/09/06/former-archbishop-accused-of-abuse-buried-in-poland/