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David_18   
26 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

Not really, most of the Poles in the UK and those that work for me are students

Good for you... Im still not saying that all poles stays, just said that Poland looses huge amount of money from those who settles in the UK.

who take a year or two out to experience living in a new country and to save money for their Uni fee's. "Free education" is a laugh in Poland.

Im not talking about Uni. Anyway Poland and it's tax payers pays huge amounts to cover most of the Uni fees too...

Poles who stay more long term are here because there simply isn't any work in Poland

Good for them :)

Why not, it's better than staying in a country where you work for a pittance struggling to get by

Like they wont struggle in the UK? you ain't even paying them fair wages...

Are you seriously saying that someone should live in poverty?

They will only live in poverty in the UK, getting low wages and living in small stinky flats. In Poland the prices are adjusted by their wages ( not everything ofc ).

and that someone shouldn't move abroad to further their career?

WHAT career? since when do you advance in construction or cleaning business?

F sake stop pretend that you're doing the poles a favour...
David_18   
26 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

But seriously, what do you know about Poland? You don't live here. Hell, have you ever lived here?

I know enough.

And the majority come back home with money that they reinvest into Poland. Poles spending money to build Poland. What's bad about that again?

Pure media propaganda. Like i said its looks great in the short term, but later on it hurts the economy more then it helps it.

Don't you understand that for every pole that decides to settle in the UK, Poland and its tax payers loosing millions of Zloty. Try to calculate how much Poland spends on free education and free healthcare on each person in a period of 18 years. What they are sending back ain't even covering one third....

Because working the dirty UK construction job, sending money back, and having that money buy things that have 22% VAT is still a net gain for the Polish treasury. You are making the DDR argument by the way. The government didn't pay for a damn thing. Students parents paid for it. Their children can go wherever they damn well please. After all, they paid for it.

Obviously the parents pays taxes... But does that mean it's right that their children should move to the UK and work and live like animals just so they can earn a little bit more?
David_18   
26 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

Hmm no...

Poland spends big money on the school system. It swallows a big part of the budget. And ofc your parents are paying it with taxes... Maybe you rather pay 15.000 Zloty per termin?

And putting fees is the most DUMB thing to do. Only thing that will happend is that you create a dumb generation since people without money will choose not to study and go and work in some coal mine...
David_18   
25 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

well I'm youngster and I really would like to set a life abroad :)

Do it if you want too. But im just telling you that you wont be welcomed with balloons and happy faces...

Well I have a good example of my friend who lives in Sweden for a year now and she has satisfing job and lots of plans for the future. She is really happy now.
So it seems you are wrong.

Good for her. Lets hope it will end the same way for you.

No. Contrary.

How the F can it be contrary?

People leaving the country will never be profitable. Short term YES, but in the end some people will decide to settle in their new country and will stop sending money to Poland.

You know Poland is wasting shitloads of cash to educate you guys, and you spit her in the face by taking some dirty construction job in the UK when she wasted miljons of Zloty to educate you properly. The school is for free you know?
David_18   
25 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

You're just creating a bad circle and teaching the youngsters that it's ok to move abroad to find a better "life". Most of the cases they wont find anything at all, and if they do find something it wont be anything that they were educated for in Poland.

Poland would earn more in the long term by keeping it's population inside the country. But firstly you have to increase the wages in the public sector and by doing that the private sector would adjust to it.

But who am i to talk about it? I'm just a stupid "american" right?
David_18   
25 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

no wish to talk to many people I knew in Scotland as they are just alcohol-fuelled dic*s!

People are people, you will find those "Alcoholic fuelled" in the polish wjoskas too haha.

I hope more and more Poles keep bringing a fresh infusion of new ideas and wake up those complacent morons who I wouldn't even pay.

The poles should move back to Poland and let your "morons" build up their own country.

Ok i understand that it's hard living in Poland right now, but i doubt moving away from your problem and be treated like an animal in the other is a good solution.

It's not like the poles are getting the job they are educated for when they apply for a job in the UK.
David_18   
25 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

There are plenty that are not that way :(

Seriously i don't blame them. This allways happends when a huge wave of emigrants come to another country.

Poles or not poles. I doubt the reaction would have been any different if 1 milj Germans invaded the UK and "stole" your jobs..
David_18   
25 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

Yeah, their influence is acutely felt in Kraków and Poznań. We taught them their ways

Yupp in Krakow you (The scots ) had your own district. Don't know if the buildings still exists, but i guess they do since Krakow didn't get destroyed in WW2.

The Scots are actually something Poland should be proud of, you were loyal to us in bad and good times.

The Scots in Poland was composed of craftsmen such as weavers, tailors, shoemakers, makers of leather goods, saddlers, tanners and brewers. We hear also of Scottish apothecaries.

A specially privileged group consisted of those Scots who supplied provisions to the Polish army and the Royal Court. King Stephen Batory (1576-86) had a high opinion of them and granted them special privileges. Eight Scots were appointed as purveyors to the Court. They were expected to follow the Royal Court wherever it moved and could trade freely in the country as well as in the capital. When a vacancy occurred, the king would fill it with another Scottish merchant. This privilege of Scottish merchants of purveying to the Royal Court was kept for a long time, up till the end of the seventeenth century.

In his edict, signed at Niepolomice in 1585, King Stephen Batory declared:

The Scots who always follow Our Court and who are at liberty in all places, where We and Our Royal Court stay, to exhibit their wares and to sell them, complain that they are prevented by Our faithful subjects from exercising their privileges granted by Us, in Cracow likewise.

Now We command you to put nothing in their way in this business, especially not to hinder those to whom We have given liberty of trading and-assigned a certain district .... For if they on account of the future of their trade should leave Our Court none of you indeed will follow Us into Lithuania*** and other places. Our Court can not be without them, that supply Us with all that is necessary. It is just, therefore, that they should enjoy the same privileges in Cracow as elsewhere. They have also supplied Us well in former times of war. Let a certain district be assigned to them. This We command Our faithful subjects.

homepage.ntlworld.com/josephd.ross/index.html
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]

Sounds interesting - any links ?

Yea you can find everything in here :)

homepage.ntlworld.com/josephd.ross/index.html

In the second half of the sixteenth and in the seventeenth century many Scots entered military service in Poland, as mercenaries. Indeed there was scarcely a country in Europe which did not have Scots in its army. There is some information on the number of Scottish immigrants in Poland, in the accounts of Scottish travelers in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. The most important, and probably most impartial, is the relation of William Lithgow, from Lanarkshire, who for nineteen years travelled in distant countries and stayed for some time in Poland, at the beginning of the seventeenth century.

In his memoir, often reprinted, he writes as follows:

Being arrived in Krakow ... the capital city of Poland I met with diverse Scottish merchants, who were wonderful glad of mine arrival there, especially the two brothers Dicksons, men of singular note of honesty and wealth.... Here (at Lublin) I found abundance of gallant, rich merchants, my countrymen, who were all very kind to me and so were they by the way in every place where I came, the conclusion being ever sealed with deep droughts, and God be with you. Then he calls Poland 'populous of strangers' and continues: And for auspiciousness, I may rather term it to be a mother and nurse for the youth and young lings of Scotland who are yearly sent hither in great numbers, than a proper Dame for her own birth; in clothing, feeding, and enriching them with the fatness of her best things; besides thirty thousand Scots families, that live incorporate in her bowels. And certainly Poland may be termed in this kind to be the mother of our Commons and the first commencement of all our best merchants' wealth, or at least most part of them.
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

So per capita the Benelux is the greatest contributor, per country DE, UK and NL are the biggest contributors while HL, PL and ES are the biggest receivers.

Why do you still talk about capita? haven't i teached you anything this night?

And why do you show me a chart that is only showing the budget for may 2010?

Here is an article that maybe will make you understand it all a litte bit better !!!

Making sense of the 2010 EU budget
For 2010, Germany is expected to contribute most to the financing of the EU general budget with approximately 19.6%, followed by France (18%), Italy (13.9%), the UK (10.4%) and Spain (9.6%)

Budget debates often focus on how much countries give and how much they get back from the EU (their "net contributions"). Inevitably, "discussions" arise where different countries feel they are either paying too much or not receiving as much as they should. The latter can be a particularly vexed point as some EU policies like agriculture and regional policy benefit some countries more than others.

However, contrasting "contributions" with money a country gets back and then presenting a "net balance" is a difficult and controversial exercise. Here's why:

europarl.europa.eu/news/public/focus_page/034-31028-161-06-24-905-20080605FCS31027-09-06-2008-2008/default_p001c005_en.htm
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Okay then, since Germany has by far the biggest population in the EU...

Indeed!!! The Germs are being discriminated and should revolt against the evul powers that surrounds them!!!
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Since when did Scotland become England ;)

4 countries in a Union mashed into something called the UK. Makes me so confused and frustrated!!!

Seriously wtf you live in a small island and still you manage to have 3 countries in it!!! Amazing what the mankind are able too!!!

I just think it'd be a shame for the people who genuinely need benefits.

Well we live in a faggot Culture where we have to take care of everyone. 60 years ago we didn't have anything called wellfare...

Could just imagine it at the G8 summit now lol britain, the drug dealers, french providing the munchies, and everyone picking on the germans :D

yea those poor germs!!!
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

So what'd you think how big are the odds that given the current situation a Slavic Union of all these poor, unlucky countries will be successful?

Nah no chance that we will see anything like a Slavic union the next 30-50 years. But who knows how the next century will look like :D!!!

NEVER SAY NEVER!!!!!!
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

This situation almost exterminated Serbs.

Yes indeed, we are talking about the blood tax right? Данак у крви? :D

I think all of those countries are happy where they are right now.

Wohoooo here we go again!!!

We know Most of the Slavic countries are poor, we had some bad luck the past 60 years ok?
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Habitual users find ways to deal it very cheaply in the north of england

Ok so scotland is the place they deal the cheap weed?

As for being a country full of crack babies, nobody even mentioned crack now did they

I don't think alcohol and cannabis is healthy either for a baby in the stomach... And when i say Crack babie i mean a "Drug babie" :o

Personally it may lighten a bit of the debt if britain started using crack babies. We could do a bit of dealing at G8 etc.

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

The government doesn't encourage children to get pregnant. It brought in benefits which were designed to help people.

And yet it encourage children to get pregnant!!!

If control over this was learnt, and it was made so that you were better of earning than sitting at home on benefits, then more people would be out looking for work.

Believe me when you just cut the benefits people will start to look for a job. All you have to do is to kick the little bird out of the nest, some will make it and some wont!!!
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Serbs defended Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, with passion. It was our obligation to Polish warlords since the era of Great Morvia.

Just like you fought by our side in the battle of Varna my brethren!!
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

because they throw a house and money at you...its the way to go if you have nothing else going for you in life..

Not a bad deal at all!!!

The point is british children are having sex as lack of something enjoyable and fun to do.

Not reason enough to be stupid and get pregnant at that age...

they say it has been boring with nothing to do since the clubs were shut down that they went to house parties, parks etc drank, used drugs and as a result became pregnant.

Wow a country filled with Crack babies. Lets pray that noone of those babies will get voted into the parlament when they grow up...

Currently three kids are in foster care looking to be adopted. Its sad but its true.

Indeed it's sad...

You also don't get similar benefits in many other european countries

How can a government be so stupid to encourage their teenagers to get pregnant?

4 of them left before GCSEs due to being pregnant.

How old were they?
David_18   
24 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

with, Polish language as official. That would be a freedom

Would the Serbs agree on that?

eventual Great Polish Commonwealth from Baltic to Balkan would have much brighter future then EU

Maybe something like this? The new Slavic era is comming!!!!

Poland Realm

Jagiellon realm on 15th century. Kingdoms of Poland, Hungary, Bohemia and Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

Indeed they are trogs hahahah.

But seriously how come that the teen pregnancy is so high in the UK?

Makes me sick to even imagine a girl pregnant at 12. Don't the parents have the right to force the girl to make an abortion? i mean she is only twelve...
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

I can't believe that I was only my daughter's age when I gave birth at 12. I was called cruel names but I had to prove them wrong

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Three sisters who gave birth at 12, 14 and 16 recently hit the headlines
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

So, if you have a country with a vast population, but is poor as a church-rat, therefore doesn't pay one cent and receives huge quantities of money, and you have a country with a much smaller population, but rich and paying a tremendous big part of that cake, that smaller country should just shut the hell up and just pay, while the bigger country should decide what's going to happen?

I get your point i truly do... But the only way for the union to work is to acknowledge every country and give it a fair share population wise. We can't have a "Rich and the poor" democracy in the EU, that only works in Oligarchys like Russia.

I didn't say the Poles were dumb. And it has nothing to do with that whatsoever, however, it can happen that they just couldn't find the right candidates. We don't even know how many candidates the Polish govt put forward.

I just can't believe that they only had 36 people who qualified... BULLshiet in my opinion

Fishy as hell!!!

now, that`s just another joke on the account of Poles

Indeed... So Crow maybe you could send some serbs to Brussel and show them some slavic power??? :D
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Poland will get her turn - but frankly speaking, she isn't ready yet to start influencing the EU. In time, yes - but right now? No. Come on, your own civil service is badly lacking in many ways - you're just not ready to deal with the EU. And let's be realistic - you don't really have the talent in the public sector at all.

If the EU got the same attitude like you, then i guess Poland is doomed!!!

you don't really have the talent in the public sector at all.

We got TUSK!!!!!
The winner of the prestigious Charlemagne Prize 2010!!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize

Educated in terms of pieces of paper, yes. But as everyone knows - there's no honesty in education in Poland.

That's a new one, please enlight me :)

Then you shouldn't say that it's "commonly known that she did take funds from the Soviets". You should've said "a woman who especially in the Eastern European States of the EU is rumoured to have received funds from the Soviet Union". That would've been more correct a statement.

Ok my bad ;)

So you won't mind if you pay 100 Euros to get into a club and get the same treatment as sb who gets in for free? I think it's more than fair that the countries who pay the most get the biggest share. It's also normal.

It's not about the one that pays the most gets the largest piece of the cake. It's about that Europe is a union between countries and it should all be shared equal population wise.

Weren't that the purpose with the Lisbon treaty?

And as I said before, maybe PL just didn't have any qualified material. It can happen, you know.

I don't think poles are so dumb, that they only got 36 qualified personnel to fill the 1.700 spots.
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Sounds like Kaczynski logic to me.

HAHA common am i really that bad? I just don't believe it's a fair deal that Poland got from this.

Don't you get it? There might simply have been a lack of qualified graduates to do so. It's well known that to function in the EU, you need French, English and German language skills as a minimum. I don't know anyone in Poland who knows all three fluently - especially as French is rather unfashionable at the minute.

Poles are one of the most educated people in Europe if not the world. I know plenty of poles incl members of my own family that speaks all those languages.

Nope i don't buy that sorry!!!
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Poland is a relatively new member and just has to wait its turn

Just cuz Poland is a new member it dosen't have to mean that they have to disciminate Poland and not acknowledge Polands role in the EU? The only thing they should wait for is their turn in the presidency of EU that they will have in Jul 2011, that's fair in my opinion.

Well, one can make an issue out of everything.

Yes indeed and that i do!!!

But it's also one of the newest member, still a NET receiver and you surely cannot expect that the countries who pay a lot are willing to have an equal position as countries who are receivers?

Ain't that what the Lisbon treaty stands for? equality?

So just cuz Poland is poor it should be treated like ****?

They didn't. Your portrayal of the EU as a bunch of poor sobs, solely depending on Poland's good will is an entire incorrect one.

I didn't intend to portray EU "as a bunch of poor sobs".

From your link:

Lazy me buhuhuhu!!!

The line I marked in bold is a brilliant piece of manipulating on your part. It has never been proven that she in any form accepted money nor goods from the Soviets. So this might as well be filed in the drawer under F - Former East Bloc States' Paranoya.

Well rumours is often true. Maybe JUSt maybe she did not recive any bribes. But MAYBE she did... We will never know the complete truth untill it's revealed.

Power game? These countries simply pay the most (well at least BE, NL, DE and SW do), so they have the most rights to be there when the goodies are being given away.

Common... How does that sound?

M-G (don't you just love when Americans try to pinpoint any "wrongdoings" within the EU, while at the same time they don't even have a clue of what's going on in their own country)

Im still not from America...

the newly created EU diplomatic corps numbers some 1,700 personnel, although only 36 Poles have been hired as EU civil servants in the corps.

So that's a fair share right??? Out of 1700 jobs the poles get 36, gosh the one who decided that must have been drunk...
David_18   
23 Aug 2010
News / Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team [38]

Out of the 115 new EU ambassadors that are to represent the 27-nation bloc across the world, only two people have been chosen from the new wave of the EU's members; none are from Poland.

Over 90 percent of posts in the corps are to be filled by EU citizens from the 'old' 15 member states.

thenews.pl/international/artykul138153_anger-after-poland-left-out-of-eu-ambassador-team.html

Seriously this pisses me off... Atleast Poland should have it's fair share since it is the sixth most populous member of the European Union...

They begged Poland to sign The Lisbon Treaty and now Poland gets a slap in the face?

And how can they make Catherine Ashton EU foreign minister???? that is known to be involved and active in Soviet funded organizations during the 1980's

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6932391.ece

This truly shows the ugly power game that the old EU members perform...