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pawian   
5 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Avalon]I have tried to adapt, but there seems to be no logical thinking here,

Exactly.

Countries can be divided into two kinds: logical and intuitive.

Poland is certainly an intuitive country. This is Polish character, nature, style of life. If you can`t accept it, take the money you earned in Poland and get out of here and live off the interest, as you said.

I will tell you sth - I don`t want to live in a logical country like Germany or Scandinavian ones because they are so boring.

I prefer Poland because it is so unpredictable. And that`s what makes life so fascinating here. :):):):)

If after 8 years you still haven`t developed this fascination, Poland is not for you and you better leave. Why should you be so stressed?

=warszawski]What are we to do in the future, Paw - decide if your post is serious or provocations indeed or just take them all as rotten apples, based on your own admission.

Warsz, in your case, I really don`t care what you do with my posts. :):):) Take them as you want, but as to yourself, in the future, could you provide less crappy examples illustrating some traits of Polish character under discussion? :):):)
pawian   
5 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Avalon]When I make a mistake, I accept it, hold my hand up and get on with my life.

Really? Do you also refund the damages when you flunk your job? :):):):)

Sorry, darling, I don`t believe it. :):):)

=Avalon]Really!!! as a developer/builder for 40 years, I never realised that!!!.

Come on, another lie. What kind of a developer are you? You come here to complain about Polish culture like a boy bullied by his classmates. You should have a thicker skin than that. :):):):)

=Avalon]You want to learn to read dipsiht!!!.where did I say in my original post that I paid a fine for parking? I said that "I got a ticket"

Oops, I am sorry. Now I realise these are two different things. I supposed you used a mental shortcut. :):):)

=warszawski]Interesting retort Pawian, but as always your words are to provoke.

You are lying. Half of my posts are serious.
Yes, the other half are provocations indeed but only when I smell a rat.

I did smell a rat in Avalon`s story and I was right with that parking ticket.

I also didn`t accept your example because it has nothing to do with this thread. It is simply taken from the moon- as we say here in Poland (completely abstract).

=warszawski]In response to your questions, experienced and wise enough to have lived and experienced things you will only ever dream of, that I guarantee you of.

=Avalon]With age comes experience and wisdom. Something you will never achieve.

:):):):):):)

Guys, Warszawski and Avalon, I feel so little next to you. :):):):):) Your experience is insurmountable. :):):):):)
pawian   
5 Sep 2011
Life / 'Turkish' Conmen on the A4/E40 Krakow-Wrocław stretch.... [25]

Has it happened to anyone before?, i'm keen to hear your story.

A trick as old as the hills.

The first time I encountered such a con act was in mid 1995. Next, a few more. Always the same scenario - apparently broken car on the side of the road, and a dark skinned man offering mock gold.

The guys aren`t Turkish, they are mostly gypsies, I suppose.
pawian   
5 Sep 2011
News / Polish publicly-funded pre-schools have put up their prices [7]

So, the cost for a typical 4 year-old is about PLN 400.

I thought it was only introduced in Krakow by our local council, but I see now it is everywhere.

=delphiandomine]I fail to see how 400PLN (truth is, it's usually quite a bit lower) a month is "unaffordable" to someone who works full time in Poland.

Exactly. If both parents work and prefer to have their child taken care of by professional carers, 400 zlotys which includes care and 3 meals a day is as cheap as dirt.

Come on, Varsovian, communism finished 20 years ago. It collapsed because too many things were for free. Isn`t it obvious?
pawian   
5 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Avalon]He "tore" the ticket up.

So I was right when I said that you made up everything. :):):)

Did you pay the fekking ticket?

No. It was annulled on the spot. You didn`t have to argue extensively or go to court to prove your innocence. The municipal police officer, by tearing the ticket off in your presence, admitted they had made a mistake.

So why are you telling this stupid story at all as an example of never wrong Poles?

Are you crazy? Don`t you understand that all your other examples are doubtful too in result? I would never buy a basket of apples if I found one rotten apple in it.

If I were picky and impolite, I would call it all a pack of lies. :):):):):)

=warszawski]It is NOT about loss of work, the issue here is about loss of lifestyle, irresponsibility and blame, he will come out at the end of 2011, with a large payoff and a pension, at the age of 49.

Sorry but it is naive on your part to try selling this story as an example of irresponsibility of Poles. People do such things everywhere, worldwide. Don`t be silly. How old are you? Don`t you know life and haven`t seen such cases before?

=vndunne]Speaking as a non polish person who has lived here for over 5 years, i have to agree in principle with Avalon.

You have the right to it.

=vndunne]I have had a lot of dealings here and very seldom see someone putting their hand up to accept responsibility.

Is it better in the country where you come from? Do car mechanics inform you in your country that they flunked the job (repaired sth else than what you wanted) or even damaged sth and want to refund it to you? :):):)

=Avalon]To me it makes no sense for business's to be run this way and may explain why the costs of services is so high here. If all these people have to run around with bits of paper to be signed and stamped, the cost will always be passed on to the customer.

It is simply necessary. When you plan to build a house in Poland, you need a tonne of documents from various specialists, which costs you a year on average.

Why do we often hear on TV news that a newly built hotel or apartment block collapsed in Turkey or Chile or a country of 3rd world, without being struck by earthquake ? The answer is: they don`t need any documents.

Why don`t I hear about such tragedies on Polish news? Any idea?

You are old, as you said. You want to make things run faster because you feel time is getting short.

Then, recall a nice Polish saying: when man hurries, the devil rejoices.
pawian   
5 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

Pawian, I have known them many years,

Excuse me, but this story still doesn`t hold water if the main motif of breaking the family is her husband`s loss of work. People don`t walk on each other for such trivial reasons, especially immediately after losing a job. Such things might happen months or years after becoming jobless, when a person can`t find a new position and collapses mentally, then his/her partner might start thinking of leaving.

Sorry, warszawski, you just don`t know all the other details which haven`t been revealed to you. So, let me repeat, don`t accuse this woman of irresponsibility and set her as an example here.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Ogorki]Poland
has lost it's innocense.

Still, many people remained innocent. I can see it in my students. When foreign student exchanges come to us, from Germany or Italy, and I see Italian or German students, I think: Oh, my God. Are they serious?

And I am grateful to Polish students for being what they are.

=Ogorki]Polish people are more satisfied with life than the citizens of any other European country, according to a survey by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

I concur. I am very happy to live here.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=warszawski]I have a interesting story about responsibility in Poland.

What a stupid example! How can you relate a personal story of a woman tired of her boring and unfaithful husband as an example of Polish lack of responsibility???

I liked only one thing in it:

=warszawski]taken the kids and the cat “

Delicious! :):):)

=Wroclaw]
if u park on the pavement/sidewalk u must leave at least 1.5 metres between your car and the building or wall/fence etc. if not u may get a ticket/fine

I am sorry, Wrocław, I was first with my explanation, I hope you won`t hold a grudge against me for that. I really appreciate what you do for us and the forum.

Your explanation was better than mine.

Thank you very much.

:):):):):):)
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

Could someone explain the 1,5 meters from a building law?

In short: blocking the passage of pedestrians on the sidewalk/pavement is illegal. You must leave at least 1.5 metre counting from your car to the opposite side of the sidewalk. It is especially important for parents with prams or push chairs.

Poland popieluszki
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Seanus]Pawian, you must have encountered the above in administrative offices or do you always go in blindfolded, with earplugs and sign language?

Seanus, before I go to an administrative office in Krakow (which is quite friendly), I check their website for regulations and requirements. Then I find a phone number and call to make sure. Then I go and do business after 30 minutes of queuing. Isn`t it simple?
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]

=Foreigner4]Tell me you don't see a change in people's physiques here.

After summer holiday during which we spent a lot of time at water facilities of various sorts I can say:
10% Polish women are skinny.
30% are slim.
30% are a bit overweight, nothing serious.
20% are fat.
10% are obese.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

It's fair to say that with driving, there's plenty of laws that you should be aware of, despite them not being explicitly signed.

That is why I take the whole complaint by Avalon with a giant pinch of salt. If he could be so unfair about his parking incident, it means he also might be unfair reporting incidents with an architect, clerk, etc. etc.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

You park your car (next to other parked cars) and then get a ticket, you ask where the signs saying "no parkling" are and you are told that there "are none" and you should "know".

If you park on the grass, you should know it is illegal.

If you leave less than 1.5 metre from your car to the building wall, you should know it is illegal.

When you park your car and make it difficult for other drivers, you should also know.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

The mentality in Poland is *never* to accept responsibility for one's mistakes - it's just not done.

Delph, you are doing exactly this:

to make these broad generalizations about the Polish people or any group of people.

Come on, guys, everything depends on who you are dealing with. There are a lot of normal people in Poland who are able to admit wrong. I must say that recently I have been lucky to run into those normal ones in everyday matters - clerks, drivers, parents of my students.

That is why such ideas as this one seem crazy to me -

So you understand now why we are going to UK. We wish taste a logical thinking

And that is why I agree with

And BTW-I lived in several countries and likewise haven't come across a government employee who willingly owns up to a mistake-this isn't a Polish thing, it is very much universal.

There are people like that in different countries, not just Poland. It's just the way it is.

pawian   
4 Sep 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

=delphiandomine]Ah - it's because Gazeta Polska told you so, and instead of actually checking with the PKW site, you believe what they say. Don't you realise that they have to sell papers, and to do that, they print whatever rubbish their readers want to read?

He thinks he is talking about main elections while he meant local councils elections in which many people go voting but don`t know how to (complicated system) or prefer to vote nobody and leave a blank card. There are always many void votes - in 2010 local council elections - 12%.

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80708,8711907,12_proc__glosow_do_sejmikow_wojewodzkich_niewaznych.html

However, it is crazy to ascribe it to tricks by PO. Null votes were also common when PiS was at power.

2010 Presidential elections, much simpler, had 0.6% void votes.

=delphiandomine]He's another one of those who sits abroad and fantasises about this country. I don't get it - must be in the blood or something ;)

Don`t blame him too much. He sounds a patriot of Poland who wants it to thrive and prosper.

The only problem is he put his bet on wrong people who are not able to make Poland prosperous because they are obsessed with air crashes, blames, agents and communists.
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

=WielkiPolak]Well yeah but I still care about the country.

Instead of caring about the old country in which I and my family live, why don`t you fekking care about the country where you live? It would be much healthier for Poland. ):):):):)
pawian   
4 Sep 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

=Avalon]Lets save 10 years and make this country, great, now!!!!!.

Just because you have mental problems and cannot adapt? ):):):)

No way. Polish culture must stay as it is.

Mediawatch - Its stupid and ridiculous for you to make these broad generalizations about the Polish people or any group of people.
This is another one of these defamatory loaded anti-Polish topics along the lines of "Why do Polish people beat there wives so much?" type topics, meant to knock Polish people.

I agree.
Avalon, are you navalon? ):):)

=Avalon]but, I can also understand why the average Polish man drinks 500ml of vodka every night. He needs it to get through the next day.

It seems you either lack 500 ml of vodka to get through the next day or you have already gulped it and gone for more. ):):):)
pawian   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

=Kevend]I think I'll leave now I've found my answer. Polish people in their own country are quite happy to have 2 drinks.
I think I'll avoid any 3rd world country from now on and stick to west Europe.

So you are a troll after all and your story was made up.

I just guessed it from the very beginning.

Kevend, did you ever expect you would run into such intelligent guys here in PF ? ):):):):):)

Now, get lost. We have wasted enough time on you.
pawian   
3 Sep 2011
Travel / My trip to Krakow and its ups and downs. [70]

This whole story is a a complete fake which I don`t believe. Here is a proof:

=Kevend]Generally the city is a very beautiful place, very tidy

Someone who wrote this has never been to Krakow. It is obvious he/she is posting false information.
pawian   
3 Sep 2011
Life / People living in Warsaw are rootless peasants! [41]

=MyMom]pawian: What are you trying to say? That "Poland A" somehow lives off pre war German accomplishments?

I don`t say anything, I just provided facts which show that better developed Poland A and less developed Poland B do exist, and I did it in direct response to your claim:

=MyMom]Enough with the "Polska B" bullcrap.

=MyMom]You do realize how those areas were devasted in 1945? Do you know how Wrocław, Gdańsk, Głogów, Kołobrzeg etc. looked like after "liberation"?

Yes, I do. After all, I was the creator and main contributor in this thread:

Today:

=MyMom]And how exactly the fact that Wielkopolska is host to some industrial pork "factories" is a success?

Why didn`t you comment on wildboar population in Poland?

I will add deer population statistics.

Do you know why it is so?

:):):):):):)
pawian   
3 Sep 2011
Life / People living in Warsaw are rootless peasants! [41]

=Ironside]Media suck, and you are still a commie.

Don`t be silly, Poland A and B is a statistical fact. You have a chance to educate yourself for free:

GDP per capita per Lublin, Poland, worker is almost five times smaller than in Warsaw . Average earnings in the Warmia and Mazury are about 900 zł lower than in Lower Silesia. There is no job every seventh citizen of Podkarpackie - is Poland B in a nutshell. Sociologists alert : The gap between Polish A and Polish B is as big as between the Polish and the most developed countries of the European Union.

Poland salary
pawian   
3 Sep 2011
Life / People living in Warsaw are rootless peasants! [41]

IRONSIDE - Listen commie, stop spreading your nonsense.

Before you accuse anybody of spreading nonsense and being a commie, why don`t you go and educate yourself about Poland? There must be some Polish culture courses or at least the Net in the place where you are staying now. ):):):) Only then you will be an equal partner for serious discussion. For the time being, your lack of knowledge of real Poland is appaling. :):):):)

2010 elections