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pawian   
14 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Russians? [193]

As a child, I (and my mates) got glued to TV sets by the popular Soviet Russian cartoon series about the bad Wolf and good Hare. Unbeliavably amusing. Each episode started with an opening teaser like James Bond films! Music was great, too.

Watch their adventures in the sports center:



What a pity they made only 12 episodes in 1970s! Well, tanks and nuclear arms were more important then. :(:(:(

Read the whole fascinating story about the series:

Since the 1990s, when the fall of the Iron Curtain allowed better exchange of films, both Russian and Western audiences have noted similarities between Nu, pogodi! and American cartoons, the most noticeable being Tom and Jerry. The director has admitted that he was learning from Disney animated films which were brought into the USSR from Germany immediately after World War II, particularly Bambi. However, he did not see any Tom and Jerry episodes until his son bought a VCR in 1987.[3] Thematically, Nu, pogodi! places greater emphasis on various real-life situations and locations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu,_pogodi
pawian   
14 Sep 2011
Travel / Is panhandling a common sight in Poland? [24]

Is this type of harassing behavior punishable by law in Poland?

Probably not.

How am I "harassed" for money in Krakow?

After mall shopping, bums ask me if they can take my trolley to the trolley park.

On Sunday, gypsy beggars ask for donation at the church front door.

That`s all. They are polite and agreeable people.
pawian   
14 Sep 2011
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]

Very well said, gumishu. It is all true.

so where did you see the disaster?

I will gladly tell you where. The disaster hapenned after PiS` successful attempt to destroy people`s mood, to spoil the general atmosphere in Poland and around it too. PiS provoked many silly internal and external conflicts which could be avoided. It was PO which hushed them down.

That was the reason PiS lost 2007 elections. Poles, apart from boomin economy, want peace and quiet on the Polish front.

=pawian]PiS provoked many silly internal and external conflicts which could be avoided.

How?

Wikileaks has just revealed American ambassador`s opinion on Antoni Macierewicz, the deputy Defence Minister in PiS govenrment 2005-2007. Paranoic, obsessed with mutinies/plots, his irresponsible behaviour had a bad influence on Polish diplomacy and spoiled the atmosphere, witch hunt expert.

Very accurate description which suits him and the whole PiS too.
pawian   
13 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]

=Andzia8859]his friday homme office catch him,they arrest him

Reminds me of Nazi rule in Poland. People were afraid of going out because Nazis organised regular łapankas - roundups.

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That is why I am not going to go to England. I don`t want to be chased like some big game. I feel safe in Poland.
pawian   
13 Sep 2011
News / 4th Polish Republic may re-emerge [244]

Hey, that`s cheap provocation! :):):):)

I certainly won`t take the bait. :):):):)

=legend]Please no fourth republic.

Yes, we already had it and the effect was disastrous. PiS leaders are masters of creating conflicts everywhere.
pawian   
13 Sep 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

twenty years ago the ballot paper was more like a book... with dozens of parties.

More exactly - 29 parties.

Crazy! :):):):):)

But that was a natural reaction of the Polish young democracy to 50 years of the totalitarian system.

We have gone a long way since then.
pawian   
13 Sep 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Yes, they seem so when in opposition. However, when in power, they tried to keep finances in good condition and objected to pay rises etc. I still remember the long protest of nurses in front and inside Kaczyński`s office when he was a PM. It lasted a month or so because he turned down nurses` demands.

2007

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pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82e_miasteczko
pawian   
13 Sep 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Facts about elections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2011

10 parties and organizations have registered their lists.

Here is the presentation of major 4 for people who know little about it:
The Citizens' Platform (PO) was created in 2001 by Andrzej Olechowski, Donald Tusk, and Maciej Płażyński (then Speaker of the Senate), former members of the UD and AWS parties. The Citizens' Platform is a group which represents the liberal electorate, private entrepreneurs and business circles, as well as all who want a wholesome and robust state based on a free-market economy and the principle of competition.

The Law and Justice Party (PiS) is a right-wing party which cherishes the traditions of independence and derives from the Solidarity movement of the 1980s. (...)

en.poland.gov.pl/Political,Parties,395.html
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

So, after all, they deserve chance

Exactly. Give peace a chance.

In 1970 West Germans decided to sign a border treaty with Poland.
Between 1970 and 1990, the West German political establishment gradually recognised the "facts on the ground" and accepted clauses in the Treaty on the Final Settlement, whereby Germany renounced all claims to territory east of the Oder-Neisse line. In the Treaty of Warsaw (1970; ratified in 1972) West Germany recognized the Oder-Neisse line as Poland's western border and renounced any present and future territorial claims;

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oder-Neisse_line

Dear friends, before I continue with past acts of reconciliation, I need to make a digression with this entry:

WARSAW, Poland-[b]Germany's new president praised Poland as a land of freedom and expressed remorse over the cruelty inflicted by Germany on the country during World War II, in a first foreign visit heavy with symbolism.

Trips to Poland by German leaders always carry a degree of symbolic and emotional weight due to persisting memories of the war. In recent years, some German leaders have made their first visits abroad to Poland [...]

pawian   
12 Sep 2011
Genealogy / Red Hair - recessive gene from Poland? [108]

My estimate says that I see one red-haired Polish person a month.

About one in 1000.

Those Scottish merceneries in 17 century!
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
Work / Salary for Teaching EFL in Krakow [120]

=wheaton] Of course people take vacations but I also find some people have more time in the summer for lessons.

You are really hardworking. I must take a break in summer after a tiring school year.

=wheaton]I feel bad taking a vacation because the lost cash,

When younger, I had this feeling too, but I relaxed with age. :):):)

=wheaton]December has traditionally been the worst month for me, for understandable reasons, Polish people take time off before and after the Christmas holiday.

Exactly. December is shiettie. I like March and October - most fruitful. :):):):) But exhausting too.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

I am sorry.

me too.

Dear Crow, my Slavic brother. You feel now like an average Pole felt in 1945 when he/she found out that Poland was shifted westwards, losing such important centres of Polish life as Wilno, Lwow and a few other.

You feel like an average eastern German who learnt in 1945 that he/she had to be relocated from their homeland to the West, losing Stettin, Danzig, Breslau and a few other.

But time heals the wounds. At least, it is supposed to. Also wounds imposed by cruel decrees of History.

Germans and Poles managed to start and develop cooperation in many aspects of everyday life. With their politicians` help and without it, too.

You and your Serbian compatriots have to think in the same categories. People can`t cherish animosities for ever. It is simply unhealthy for us.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Crow, take it onto your chest like a man. Przyjmij to na klatę jak mężczyzna.

Polish German cooperation within EU is well under way. It can`t be stopped despite various obstacles.

I am sorry. I do pity you because your Serbian Kosovo cause is lost here completely.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

:):):):)

Border cooperation and all interpersonal contacts (provided they are positive for both sides) is much better than official declaration of partnership of politicians.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

I constantly run into Net articles about an exemplary cooperation of Poland and Germany in today`s Europe.

MediaWatch made a good thread once:

polishforums.com/history-poland-34/poland-germany-look-back-years-things-common-53755/ - Poland and Germany look back 1000 years of things in common

How did it go that two mortal enemies changed into partners? (Friends would be too much).

An old Polish saying goes: Jak świat światem, nie będzie Niemiec Polakowi bratem. As long as the world is going, never will a German be a brother for a Pole.

It seemed true during and after WW2. Let`s recall facts what Germans did in Poland:

3 million Polish Jews annihilated in death camps or ghettos.
1.7 - 1.9 million Poles exterminated in executions, pacifications, raids, roundups.
0.65 million died in military campaigns.

Not to mention destroyed cities, devastated industry, culture, historical monuments.

Poland wasn`t the Land of Plenty before the war, true, but afterwards it was like The Waste Land.

How did burying the hatchet start?:

Due to allies` post war scheme, Polish borders were shifted westwards, thus eastern German lands became Polish western territory. A few million Germans were resettled to Germany proper.

In Cold War era, with two conflicted blocks, the Polish borders became a hot issue:

In 1950 the communist GDR officially recognised the border to its sister state within the Soviet sphere, whereas the democratic Federal Republic of Germany, in line with an agreement made with the three western powers (USA, Great Britain and France), reserved the right to wait until the question of the legality of the "former eastern territories of Germany" had been settled by a final peace treaty signed by all the victors of the war. In Germany the Associations for Displaced Germans came into being and in 1950 they solemnly declared their intention to secure their right to their homeland - this time without the use of force.

goethe.de/ins/jp/lp/prj/wza/depl/en2260368.htm

In 1961 a few representatives of German protestant churches issued a declaration of border recognition, which later, in 1965, grew into an official memorandum, calling for the German government to acknowledge the new Polish German borders.

Soon afterwards, in November 1965, Polish bishops issued a famous declaration of forgiveness, known as the Letter of Reconciliation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_Reconciliation_of_the_Poli sh_Bishops_to_the_German_Bishops

While recalling past and recent historical events, the bishops stretched out their hands in forgiveness and are asking for forgiveness. Here referred to as Letter of Reconciliation of the Polish Bishops to the German Bishops it is actually only one part of the extensive groundbreaking invitation and letter, where they declared: "We forgive and ask for forgiveness" (for the crimes of World War II).

Among prominent supporters of this letter was Archbishop Karol Wojtyła, who later became Pope John Paul II in 1978.
The letter was answered by bishops of both of the then-two Germanys together.

Polish communist rulers were furious:

Widely publicised in Poland's churches, the letter drew a strong reaction from the Communist authorities of the People's Republic of Poland. Władysław Gomułka saw it as clearly aimed at countering his propaganda, which saw West Germany as the main external enemy of Poland and hostility between Poland and West Germany as one of the main guarantees of social order in the Recovered Territories.
To counter the threat of losing control over people's minds, the Communist authorities reacted with anti-German and anti-Catholic hysteria. The Primate of Poland, Stefan Wyszyński, was denied a passport for his trip to Rome and on January 15, 1966 [...]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_Reconciliation_of_the_Polish_Bishops_to_the_German_Bishops

TBC
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / How do Poles feel about 10th anniversary of 9/11 [40]

=Seanus]I really don't want to imagine the impact many would have felt as the buildings were taken down. RIP to any Poles and all those who lost their lives.

I can say we all felt like Americans then - completely shocked.
And traditional Polish solidarity surfaced. I still remember how the head teacher and other staff in my school thought of getting an American flag and displaying it outside with a black ribbon.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
History / How do Poles feel about 10th anniversary of 9/11 [40]

As will be apparent from numerous threads, I deplore the loss of innocent life and I'm sure considerate Poles feel the same way.

Almost entire evening news on the main channel TVP1 was devoted to 11.09. It focused on Polish memories and involvement. One man drew my attention: Janusz Szymański, an engineer who worked in ground zero for 8 moths after the tragedy. He still can`t shake off the view of bodies they found in the debris.
pawian   
12 Sep 2011
News / Prime Minister in Krynica on European integration [53]

=Ironside]I knew you will ignore above.

Yes, I sometimes overlook Grzegorz`s posts. I just perfectly know their contents without reading. :):):)

You are lucky I still read all your posts! :):):) Though it is such a waste of time. But fun too. :):):)

=Ironside]Source !

The presence of Poland in the EU supports 86 percent . surveyed in the first half of April by CBOS , 9 percent . referred to as its opponents , and 5 per cent . is undecided on this issue . Social support for Polish membership in the EU has continued since the beginning of the accession to the EU at the highest level . Compared to the same study, which CBOS conducted in June 2009 , the number of supporters of our presence in the structures of the EU increased by 1 percentage point . At the same time by the same group decreased its opponents .

35 percent . respondents can not unambiguously determine whether earned or lost on membership . Respondents having a definite opinion on the matter , more often declare that they have personally benefited more from the membership (43 percent . ) Than it lost ( 12 percent . ) .
pawian   
11 Sep 2011
News / Prime Minister in Krynica on European integration [53]

=Ironside]I would say that 80% of all who bothered to vote - so 80% out of 40 % of those entitled to vote in Poland, lets be generous 50% !

Huh! I knew you would reply rubbish.

86% of support from all Poles, not voters only.
pawian   
11 Sep 2011
Work / Salary for Teaching EFL in Krakow [120]

=wheaton] I bring home 5500-7000 a month.

Do you also count summer months?

=wheaton] It took me about 2 years to learn Polish and I think alot of people want a native who also speaks Polish.

Exactly.
pawian   
11 Sep 2011
News / Prime Minister in Krynica on European integration [53]

=Ironside]Really? Somehow I doubt that, both percent you claim and brainwash. Don't you realize that every brainwashed individual can be easily recognized by a display of uncontrollable grimaces on his/her face, sometimes mistaken for smiles. You post give away state of your mind.

I am only amused by the pranks of trolls here.

As for Euro Union support in Poland, I even underestimated it. Actually, it is 86%, not 80%.

What will you say to that?
:):):):):)
pawian   
11 Sep 2011
News / Prime Minister in Krynica on European integration [53]

=Grzegorz_]It's terribly sad that our "leader's" only vision for this country is to beg for more foreign money.

If you lived here, you would see how this money works wonders for Poles.

And don`t call it begging. Call it claiming. :):):)
pawian   
11 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Russians? [193]

Sasha, coming back to your Orthodox Church.

Do you know it was built as a symbol of suppression of Poland by tsarist Russia?
It was demolished in mid-1920s by the Polish authorities less than 15 years after its construction. The negative connotations in Poland associated with Russian imperial policy towards Poland, and belief it was built purposely to hurt Polish national feelings[2], was cited as the major motive by the proponents of the demolition, especially since the church occupied one of Warsaw's main squares. The cathedral shared the fate of many Orthodox churches demolished after Poland regained its independence from Russia

Funny that the Palace is also considered as such a symbol. ):):):)

There were about 5 big Orthodox churches built by Russians for Russians living in Warsaw and pulled down by Poles as unnessesary in 1920s.

E.g.,

Orthodox churches in Warsaw Poland

Orthodox churches in Warsaw Poland

Of course, you do realise, if they had been preserved till today, they would be run as Catholic churches.

But a few Russian-built churches survived in Warsaw:

Cerkiew in Warsaw Poland

Warsaw_Polish Catolic_Cathedral
pawian   
10 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Russians? [193]

=RetroDog]So who to blame? Russians. Russians and their puppets - polish communists.
How you can blame Poles for actions of government that was forced on them?

How did I know you would answer like that?

:):):):):)

You, Am Poles, never change. :):):):):)

OK, doesn`t matter. Forget it. I have no time to deal with you.

=RetroDog]I don't know about massacre in Kielce, so I can't say until I'll check,

Yes, come back when you complete your education. :):):):):)

Besides, you are unregistered.
pawian   
10 Sep 2011
History / What do Poles owe to Russians? [193]

Sasha, let me pull your shapely leg a bit longer. :):):)

For me these things are incomparable, the first is an art of Benois and the second is...the Soviet tryouts.
Some leftovers are still available at Baranowici.

What about the Palace`s art?

who are we blaming for napoleons wars? costaricans?

Hmm, interesting.

It would be even more interesting to hear/read who do you blame for the expulsion of Jews from Poland in 1968? Or, for the massacre of Jews in Kielce in 1946? Communists or Poles in general are to blame?

PS. Let`s not forget Polish participation in the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968!
:):):)

=Teffle]But sorry, off topic, so in a very broad answer to the thread question I would say that on balance, the Poles owe very little to any country.

Well, yes, but even this little can be discussed and compared, e.g., German and Russian contribution.