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ShortHairThug   
4 Apr 2011
Language / Polish case structure secrets: knowing which words go in which position? [9]

my natural instinct is to say the polish eqivalent of what i want to say, which as you can see turns out to be wrong.

It turns out to be wrong because you’re using a wrong verb to describe the action. There’s nothing wrong with your word order in the example you have given, all you have to do is to learn the proper verb used in given situation to describe the action and your word endings of course but that will come naturally to you with time and practice. Polish is flexible enough to do that. If it’s more natural in your native language to express this idea by saying

ona włoźię bukiet na cięty kwiaty na stół

then clean it up a bit by using the proper word to describe the action you have in mind in the first place by saying "ona postawiła bukiet ciętych kwiatów na stole". Direct translation won’t help you in cases like this, włożyć in Polish is (to insert, to place it in, to put in) as położyć is (to place it on, to put it on) and unlike English where the words that follow don't matter as the action is determined by the pronoun that follows ie. (in, on), in polish it’s not the case, there’s a specific word for that action as in placing it in or on that is not interchangeable.

My expectation as a native speaker in the example you have given would be to hear something along the lines of (wazon, flakon), as in placing the flowers in the vase but I would never expect to hear that you put them on the table given that you use the word włożyć. I hope this might help you, I’m not a teacher so I have no idea how else to explain it. Stop translating directly from English and all will be clear
ShortHairThug   
3 Apr 2011
Life / Polish patriotism, what does it mean to you? [46]

If I were to judge from talking to people from Poland over the years, it's means not taking criticism of any type well.

There's a fine line between valid criticism and a sour grapes mentality like the one exhibited here all the time, especially by the visitors from North America.
ShortHairThug   
3 Apr 2011
Life / Polish patriotism, what does it mean to you? [46]

about 70% of the poles who got some blue blood comes from the petty "Drobna" nobility. And then we got the middle and upper nobility.

Speaking of the equal rights "Szlachcic na zagrodzie równy wojewodzie", meaning that regardless of the title, the amount of land owned or the office held by any member of the nobility each one had equal rights to that of the highest order of the nobility and even wojewoda could not interfere in private affairs or the way he govern his own land. Neither could he harm him, confiscate lands etc. Those were the rights granted in Przywilej Czerwiński and Jedlneńsko-Krakowski established in early 1400's. The title meant nothing even the King could not touch the poorest of the nobility without the proper and lengthily proceedings in courts, if you had a grievance you still had to go through courts and all of it a little bit over two centuries ahead of similar law that was passed in Britain in the form of Habeas Corpus.
ShortHairThug   
3 Apr 2011
News / Anti semtism at Polish Congress [57]

In the USA, they don't have to hide...They run things quite openly.

And brag about it every chance they get.

The only Jews that run things exist solely in the mind of paranoid people.

Convenient excuse, how would it look to the rest of the world if they were open about it? After all they were either supposed to be dead, emigrated or were expelled in 68 yet here we are, not only do they exist but they seem to run the show just like in the good old days during the communism. It’s a miracle! Polish anti-Semitism for you.
ShortHairThug   
2 Apr 2011
News / MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY [280]

Did you get the subtle hint there?

I could do so much with the money.

I as in numero uno always thinking of himself first, at least he spoke from the heart and the obvious truth this time.
ShortHairThug   
1 Apr 2011
News / MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY [280]

After watching this video I see that the old proverb still holds true "Przy Polaku i Niemiec się pożywi, a przy Niemcu ani pies".
ShortHairThug   
1 Apr 2011
History / Kingdom of Poland Map [14]

How accurate is it? Found it online, looks a bit too large...

And you never noticed what site you were on? Voodoo Guild – obviously some gaming site. Now there's the place to learn your history but I must admit the future looks bright.
ShortHairThug   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Normally that's sufficient, but Jews have their own laws and I bet they want them to be honored. Which means they will pressure until they succeed. Just the fact that the president of USA will advocate this issue is a proof how influential Jewish lobby is.

Exactly, US claim had been satisfied back then. The Jews had been spoiled by their success in recent years, the Swiss etc. , hell even the Germans said this is the last time; it’s all madness if you ask me how long can you demand and being paid the compensation for the same wrong done to you over and over again. It’s none of Obamas business, the bilateral agreement had been reached legalized and agreed upon by both sides, he will be told in no uncertain terms to feck off, US has settled this matter back then.
ShortHairThug   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Because the claimant had a chance to file the claim in Polish courts when he/she was still a citizen of Poland prior to his/her emigration or US courts prior to the date of agreement, by not doing so such person has relinquished the claim by his own choice. Statute of limitation, I think 15-20 years is enough of a time to make this claim, don't you?
ShortHairThug   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

Too late, by accepting the money at the time and signing this agreement they are obligated to do so, of course their courts can dismiss it any time sighting there's no legal base for that.
ShortHairThug   
27 Mar 2011
History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

I mean the property back then belonged to Poles (Poles of jewish faith), no?
What has that to do with the US???

Property of US citizens with Polish roots no matter of what faith is referred to as American property. As per agreement between PRL and USA dated 16th of July 1960 Poland agreed to pay the compensation for the loss of the private property to those US citizens who made such claim prior to this date in the form of the said sum. The very same agreement stipulates that any future claims after this date filed by the former citizens of Poland who become US citizens or her legal residents will be the soul responsibility of the nation that granted the citizenship to such person, furthermore by signing this bilateral agreement both side consider it a closed matter with all debts settled. Mind you, Poland made similar agreements with various nations at the time not just US.

What does he mean with that?

LOL Diplomatic way of saying (feck off) we do not really care how US classifies its citizens, in the eyes of the law there is no difference based on ones religious preference, all are her citizens and Poles with equal rights, if U.S makes that distinction it’s their right but Poland does Not so there’s no need to put an emphasis on one special group.
ShortHairThug   
26 Mar 2011
News / SNAKES ON A POLISH TRAIN... [7]

That too, what I meant though is that as usual some guy showed his snake to a poor old lady and the police never apprehended or identify the perve.
ShortHairThug   
24 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / How ENGLISH has been affected by POLISH [73]

The human kind had been working the land since time in memorial and the names for different soil types existed long before this particular science ever did.
ShortHairThug   
21 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / How ENGLISH has been affected by POLISH [73]

Sajgon, cholera, jeszcze tylko w Sajgonie,Uwielbiam zapach napalmu o poranku,

Leci B52
lECI b52
Wietnamczyki - skurczybyki
Spierdalają gdzie sie da!

Zapach to mało.
ShortHairThug   
21 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / How ENGLISH has been affected by POLISH [73]

russian...........
i think,unfortunatly a lot of what Poles presume to be Polish is actually Russian or, plain "generic" slavic

I concur with an exception of the Russian bit, I wouldn’t put too much faith in that as they themselves are confused as to who they truly are, just recently they wanted to reinvent themselves and called themselves Soviets :). While I don’t dispute the fact that those words came to English directly from Russian language (no argument there) the etymology of those words is a different matter so I’ll leave at generic Slavic. Are we all happy now :)

Influence of a foreign language on the English language is not confined exclusively to the words borrowed as this has been the focus of this discussion thus far. Proverbs also influence the language. Here’s an example of a few that made its way from Polish to English.

Man cannot divide beauty into dollars.
The devil alone can cheat the Hebrew.
Who places his confidence in a woman is a fool.
A common word is always correct.
Better under the beard of the old than the whip of the young.

Other angles you might consider exploring as your talking point is literature or English authors with Polish roots like Joseph Conrad etc.
ShortHairThug   
21 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / How ENGLISH has been affected by POLISH [73]

Now here’s something an English speaker would recognize be it British or American "ogoneki" as used in Polish fonts or "konik" (horse breed). Seriously though like I said in my previous post as there are only a handful of Polish words in English language that came directly from Polish I would throw in any word be it in modern English or archaic in American English or Queens English just to stretch the time of my presentation and a nice anecdote to go with it as in the spruce example. Does it really matter if it came from Yiddish like the words: "schlub" or "schmuck"? They have their origins in Polish and are well known in American English.

How about other American words like "babka", "kielbasa", "kasha", "pirogies", "bigos", "schav"
Other words like "Intelligentsia", "vodka" you will probably find as derived from Russian too but are they? Just because English might have come to know this word from contact with Russians as Poland did not exist at that time therefore not much chance of diplomatic contact but I wouldn’t be so sure as all Slavic languages use them, hack even a word "Polack" used as an ethnic slur in US comes from Polish word "Polak" interestingly enough it was first written in English as such by Shakespeare "you from the Polack wars" in Hamlet, of course the meaning was different back then too.

[quote=JonnyM]Archaic but interesting.[/quot"]
Speaking of, how about English "poulaine" and "cracoves" (type of shoes used in XV century)ironically enough they were known as "delfiny" in Poland.

I believe "sejm" is also widely known to English speakers as well as "zoty" (as in currency) and "horde" (horda), examples are numerous and one can make a hell of a presentation that would be both educational and entertaining. After all she’s not writing a book about this subject where everything has to be thoroughly researched and documented, is she?
ShortHairThug   
20 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / How ENGLISH has been affected by POLISH [73]

It originated in Bohemia. It's Czech.

And the word Chech itself is from Polish word (Czech)

How about droshky from dorożka (horse-drawn carriage)?

This reminds me of Britzka (bryczka).
uhlan (ułan)
rendzina (rędzina) a type of soil
nudge from Polish (nudzić się)
Do some researches you’ll be surprised what you can find. Some Polish words made its way indirectly to the English language either through German or Yiddish like: saber polish (szabla) and already mentioned nudge respectively. For a school project I wouldn’t bother doing an extensive research on etymology of the English words as direct borrowing from Polish but rather on anecdotal or trivial association as it will make it a far more interesting for the audience.
ShortHairThug   
16 Mar 2011
Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

Okay, lets forget these and tell about "dam" in your languages. Here, I told "dom" is originally a Turkic "dam" word.

But is it? The need for shelter existed since the dawn of mankind itself, I suspect the building of artificial shelter by man was practiced as soon as we started to move from one location to another in search of food so it’s only logical to assume that the word for shelter had to exist long before the development of modern day languages come to be. Similarities of this word in many languages like Latin “domus” or Greek “domos” and as you have mentioned the Turkic “dam” would also point you in the same direction meaning something much more ancient and older than your own. I suspect Turkic “dam” is a derivative of the word from much older civilization like Hindu perhaps? We do know that in ancient Sanskrit the root “dem” means (to build), so if you’re trying to prove that somehow the Polish word “dom” is related to Turkish “dam” than in a sense you might be right as all of them; be it Latin, Greek, Polish or Turkish are derived from much older cultures and language than themselves, therefore the language it originated from is probably long lost in the pages of history that time itself forgot. Good luck with your quest though, perhaps someday you’ll tell us what fascinated discoveries you have uncovered.
ShortHairThug   
16 Mar 2011
Language / Polish nationality insults in Polish? [67]

Perhaps you remember the song "Wietnam, Wietnam Pali się", if not listen to it, set to the melody of "Popcorn" by Gershon Kingsley and everything will be clear.
ShortHairThug   
15 Mar 2011
Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

Oh God! A Jewish troll started this thread because he’s too ugly to get a date with any EE woman. He claims to be family oriented with high morals yet he hangs around the red light district of Amsterdam where supposedly it only exist because of all those loose EE women, newsflash it was there long before the Iron Curtain collapsed, a real testament of your morality, read the very first sentence of his post if you need proof. He calls them all w*ores because that’s the only sex he ever had, the one he had to pay for but it brakes his heart to part with his money and a normal date is out of the question, it scares the crap out of him, God forbid he would have to cough up some dough for a dinner, drink and the flowers where the outcome is not at all guaranteed. Going on an American Party or going on a Dutch date whichever term you prefer is as the name itself suggests a western reality but the old fashion way doesn’t sit very well with him. Now all his Jewish friends join on the frenzy of bashing EE women because they either didn’t get a date or payed for a date and never had a pleasure of satisfying their needs. Hanging around the red light district might get you good time but also an extra bonus in the form of French disease, wow another testament that speaks to the Morals of the western society.
ShortHairThug   
15 Mar 2011
Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

so you are suggesting to get polka you have to spend money?

What I’m suggesting is that in order to have any meaningful relationship with a woman no matter what nationality she is you have to throw away your bias and negative stereotypes. The statement you have made suggested that all East European women are gold-diggers and tramps and that my friend is not going to get you a date anytime soon no matter what nationality she happens to be or how loaded you think you are but it does speak of your character a great deal, ever heard of a fvcking prenup? Since you already passed judgment and have such a low opinion of them then what I have actually suggested is that you start looking elsewhere, perhaps even to your own family so that your fortune stays in the family but I did not want to be so blunt.

Edit: It's Polka, capital.
ShortHairThug   
15 Mar 2011
Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

it was just something I presummed

You presume a lot, I on the other hand presume that you’re tight with money as the title of your thread seems to suggest which leads me to one logical conclusion - no Polka for you.
ShortHairThug   
5 Mar 2011
Life / Is the word "Polack"rascist? [185]

for me, it's solely an insult towards dumb racist Americans who use their "Polishness" as an excuse to act better than everyone else.

I personally don’t know of any true blooded racist dumb fvuck northerner WASP Yank or his even more dumbed down cousin, your typical redneck that considers himself Polish, do you? And those are your typical racist Americans scum. Once they put on their mothers used and unwashed linen on, cut out few holes and put on those pointy hats that went out of fashion sometimes in the dark ages in Europe that’s when they feel all brave and when sufficient number of them gets together that’s when they start showing their true colors.
ShortHairThug   
5 Mar 2011
Law / Need Advice on Writing a Business Letter to a Business Person in Poland [15]

Give it a rest Lyzko, will you. She has clearly stated in her opening statement

Hello Everyone, I am working on a college assignment for my business communication class.

. If you're unwilling to help than fine, but stop being so rude and don't interrupt others if you have no clue as to what the conversation is all about. Speaking of

The Poles, as with the majority of Europeans, vastly overshoot their English skills.

, perhaps it's time for you to refresh your reading comprehension skills.
ShortHairThug   
4 Mar 2011
News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

I wouldn’t worry about it too much, empty talk. Obama politically speaking is a washout and too weak to expand or even reorganize US presence in Europe and Europe itself to ambitious to let them, on the US domestic front you’ll see it as soon as the campaign goes full swing. US military budget will be spent on immediate issues they face just to manage the developing situations all over the Arab world, after all they will have to promote friendly faces to fill in the political gaps created by the uprisings if they want to have any influence in the region and not ruling out the involvement itself if it spreads to more important regions, priorities you know. Poland itself has been burned couple times already striking those so called deals with the US so the opposition might wake up and a louder voice might finally be heard. It’s not wise to bet on an Empire in decline just to do the dirty deeds on their behalf and let’s face it to their benefit on an empty promise of some imaginary benefit down the road that will never materialize anyway, so far that seems to be the trend anyway and that proverbial final straw that eventually breaks the camel’s back just might be the developing situation in the Arab world before such a project has a chance to get off the ground. Challenge for the US in the coming year or two is much greater than their ambition to expand, a pipe dream of second rate politicians if you ask me.

You still think it is your decision if they will attack you and declare you their enemy?

I agree, once a big wave of refugees hits the shores of Southern Europe Germans won’t be so keen on the idea of moving the basis. Besides that attack will materialize in the form of home grown threat and as the recent incident proved Germany has more than its fair share of that.
ShortHairThug   
2 Mar 2011
History / "I was more afraid of fellow Poles than Nazi German Officers", says Bartoszewski [130]

Do you think he crossed a boundary by saying this, or do you think he has a point?

Question is, when was that boundary crossed? To understand the words behind the man one has to know a bit about his past where the real clue lies as well as present. Remember his famous speech in Knesset? Enough said.

But not so many survived Auschwitz.

Not so many were released after only few months there either, guess who's among those lucky few?