Bratwurst Boy
11 Apr 2009
Genealogy / Why Polish aren't white?? [272]
Yeah...as if you are only of the white race when your religion is protestant!
Yeah...as if you are only of the white race when your religion is protestant!
Bratwurst Boy
11 Apr 2009
Genealogy / Why Polish aren't white?? [272]
That's the definition of "WASP" not of "White"...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant
Americans do have this strange concept of "white". It's generally Americans raised in the south of scottish and english descent who believe this. Their definition of "white", is a white-anglo-saxon-protestant. You need to have a last name like Smith, Jones or Campbell to qualify.
That's the definition of "WASP" not of "White"...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant
Bratwurst Boy
7 Apr 2009
History / Why will Poland always be the puppet of America? [159]
Or these pinkos build star ships to settle other planets!
Local jails, and an occasional circus will still have a few specimens of the humanoids with pink skin.
Or these pinkos build star ships to settle other planets!
Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Hmmm....googles und wikies
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system
I don't think Europe needed a warmongering wanna-be-tyrant Napoleon for the metric system...
"Small man syndrome"...might be! (Berlusconi)
For the "right hand traffic"....this seems to be an urban myth!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_on_the_left_or_right
Hmmm....googles und wikies
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system
I don't think Europe needed a warmongering wanna-be-tyrant Napoleon for the metric system...
"Small man syndrome"...might be! (Berlusconi)
For the "right hand traffic"....this seems to be an urban myth!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_on_the_left_or_right
Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Of course there would have been...
He didn't even manage to "pacify" the territories he already had...peoples chafed under him and wanted to be free.
It was a defining time in the German national consciousness, that's why we call it "war of liberation".
Sooner or later there would have been uprisings everywhere...but he never even came so far as alliances across Europe showed him the finger!
Do you know where the colors of the German flag stem from?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCtzow_Free_Corps
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleonore_Prochaska
Of course there would have been...
He didn't even manage to "pacify" the territories he already had...peoples chafed under him and wanted to be free.
It was a defining time in the German national consciousness, that's why we call it "war of liberation".
Sooner or later there would have been uprisings everywhere...but he never even came so far as alliances across Europe showed him the finger!
Do you know where the colors of the German flag stem from?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCtzow_Free_Corps
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleonore_Prochaska
Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Okay...maybe we have different views about what "great" means...:)
Okay...maybe we have different views about what "great" means...:)
Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
:)
That doesn't make neither Napoleon nor Hitler to "great guys"....
I'll diplomatically refrain from answering or Harry will never let it go, ever:)
:)
nothing wrong in being proud of things worth of being proud of is there?
That doesn't make neither Napoleon nor Hitler to "great guys"....
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Well...reminds me about Poles claiming to have won the war against Hitler for the allies (Battle of Britain, Enigma, Monte Cassino etc.)
;)
Not to mention the countless discussions about: who did more...who could have won it alone...who came to late anyhow...who was most brave....according to your theory Hitler was the greatest guy ever!
Well...reminds me about Poles claiming to have won the war against Hitler for the allies (Battle of Britain, Enigma, Monte Cassino etc.)
;)
Not to mention the countless discussions about: who did more...who could have won it alone...who came to late anyhow...who was most brave....according to your theory Hitler was the greatest guy ever!
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Why do you see the need to bring Germany into play Crowie?
Don't you think slavic countries can do things alone for themselves??? :)
Just Russia/Poland!
*still waiting*
:)
Why do you see the need to bring Germany into play Crowie?
Don't you think slavic countries can do things alone for themselves??? :)
Just Russia/Poland!
*still waiting*
:)
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Oh cumoooon Crowie....no wriggling out here...we are waiting! :)
answer is simple... it depend
Oh cumoooon Crowie....no wriggling out here...we are waiting! :)
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Well...he thought wrong.
Railways are enormously vulnerable and easy to destroy if you don't have the men to guard every meter of those vast lines you need.
Sunday question for you Crowie:
Poland and Russia are going to war...which team are you cheering for?
*waits with popcorn* :)
Well...he thought wrong.
Railways are enormously vulnerable and easy to destroy if you don't have the men to guard every meter of those vast lines you need.
i love Russia, Poland and Ukraine more then NATO and i am proud with that
Sunday question for you Crowie:
Poland and Russia are going to war...which team are you cheering for?
*waits with popcorn* :)
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
That's the same error all wannabe-russia-conquerors made...as you can't hold to that vast
territory you will never destroy all fighters (or you decide to kill all male newborn which you won't be able to do also).
Russia just isn't conquerable (?) with foot armies.
So you would like to see Poland as occupier of Russia?
He didnt want to, he wanted to destroy the Russian army.
That's the same error all wannabe-russia-conquerors made...as you can't hold to that vast
territory you will never destroy all fighters (or you decide to kill all male newborn which you won't be able to do also).
Russia just isn't conquerable (?) with foot armies.
No he would have to give it all to Poland, given Polish performance in 1809 and afterwards Poles were more than capable of holding on to it.
So you would like to see Poland as occupier of Russia?
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Interesting...a big, important victory as Russians and Germans fighted together for freedom, didn't happen to often in our both histories....I like that!
Yeah...to bad....I was born to late! *wails*
Interesting...a big, important victory as Russians and Germans fighted together for freedom, didn't happen to often in our both histories....I like that!
And practically none of it done by you :)
Yeah...to bad....I was born to late! *wails*
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
We really have two different histories Sokrates!
Never polish! To few vowels for german tongues!
My what a trashing!
(By the prussian genius Blücher between others)
We really have two different histories Sokrates!
if it wasnt for Russia you'd be speaking Polish or French today.
Never polish! To few vowels for german tongues!
My what a trashing!
(By the prussian genius Blücher between others)
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Little bitch send him packing...abit later that is! ;)
Absolutely interesting...the trashing Prussia got from Napoleon brought the long overdue changes to prussian society and army! Big reforms were started here which made in turn later Prussia to such a european power....Thank you Nappi! :)
Little bitch send him packing...abit later that is! ;)
Absolutely interesting...the trashing Prussia got from Napoleon brought the long overdue changes to prussian society and army! Big reforms were started here which made in turn later Prussia to such a european power....Thank you Nappi! :)
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
Yeah...we know...Poles decided to side with this "great humanist" and got trashed by Europe...no need to apologize! :)
You know Sokrates...often people and countries just see history differently...that's a fact!
For you Bismarck was an idiot, for Germans he was the founder of our nation.
For you Napoleon was a great man, for many Europeans he was a violent conqueror, a tyrant, someone who brought war and destruction. Germans fighted to liberate themselves of him, you think he was a nice guy...that's history for you!
Yeah...we know...Poles decided to side with this "great humanist" and got trashed by Europe...no need to apologize! :)
You know Sokrates...often people and countries just see history differently...that's a fact!
For you Bismarck was an idiot, for Germans he was the founder of our nation.
For you Napoleon was a great man, for many Europeans he was a violent conqueror, a tyrant, someone who brought war and destruction. Germans fighted to liberate themselves of him, you think he was a nice guy...that's history for you!
Bratwurst Boy
2 Apr 2009
History / Poles in the Napoleonic era [224]
The whole (well nearly) of Europe build an alliance to get rid of this "great humanist".
Well...he had one good influence in Germany...the strenghtening of the german nationalism as the Germans decided to break free from his yoke (wars of liberation).
"Great humanist" my a$$s!
Nappi and friends got trashed!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leipzig
Napoleon was a great humanist
The whole (well nearly) of Europe build an alliance to get rid of this "great humanist".
Well...he had one good influence in Germany...the strenghtening of the german nationalism as the Germans decided to break free from his yoke (wars of liberation).
"Great humanist" my a$$s!
Nappi and friends got trashed!
Location Leipzig, Saxony
Result Decisive Coalition victory
Result Decisive Coalition victory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leipzig
Bratwurst Boy
17 Mar 2009
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
Thanks! *sits down and takes notes* :)
It means to pay a lot, to pay too much, to get swindled out of money and similar.
Thanks! *sits down and takes notes* :)
Bratwurst Boy
17 Mar 2009
Bratwurst Boy
17 Mar 2009
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
Gah....laughing about yourself makes you much more sympathetic than always getting angry and demanding apologies...the Jews do that and look how people are being annoyed by it...it makes you look like a nutter in peoples eyes and they don't might make any jokes into your face anymore but they do it for sure behind your back and THAT bad image you earn all by yourself!
I don't know one event when Germans ever complained about german jokes! We just ignore it or laugh with them and we are supposed to be humorless, go figure...
Gah....laughing about yourself makes you much more sympathetic than always getting angry and demanding apologies...the Jews do that and look how people are being annoyed by it...it makes you look like a nutter in peoples eyes and they don't might make any jokes into your face anymore but they do it for sure behind your back and THAT bad image you earn all by yourself!
I don't know one event when Germans ever complained about german jokes! We just ignore it or laugh with them and we are supposed to be humorless, go figure...
Bratwurst Boy
17 Mar 2009
Genealogy / Red Hair - recessive gene from Poland? [108]
Very probably from your scots-irish side....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Very probably from your scots-irish side....
....Redheads constitute approximately four percent of the European population.[7] Scotland has the highest proportion of redheads, as 13 percent of the population has red hair and approximately 40 percent carries the recessive redhead gene.[8]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2009
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
Not so obvious!
As everybody and his grandma (even in Korea) knows Germans are naturally unable to tell a joke (or to get one) because of their "inborn genetic humour failure" the so called IGHF syndrome...it's proven!
So how could they had come up with such a mass of jokes, huh?
I rest my case!
Very obvious!
Not so obvious!
As everybody and his grandma (even in Korea) knows Germans are naturally unable to tell a joke (or to get one) because of their "inborn genetic humour failure" the so called IGHF syndrome...it's proven!
So how could they had come up with such a mass of jokes, huh?
I rest my case!
Bratwurst Boy
9 Mar 2009
Bratwurst Boy
9 Mar 2009
Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]
Seanus? Did you hear that a spanish historian now says Kolumbus was
in reality a Scot named Pedro Scotto? :)
spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,612138,00.html
abc.es/20090308/cultura-cultura/colon-llamaba-pedro-scotto-20090308.html
(He was also contrary to the common image a blond with light eyes and freckles...)
Seanus? Did you hear that a spanish historian now says Kolumbus was
in reality a Scot named Pedro Scotto? :)
spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,612138,00.html
abc.es/20090308/cultura-cultura/colon-llamaba-pedro-scotto-20090308.html
(He was also contrary to the common image a blond with light eyes and freckles...)
Bratwurst Boy
26 Feb 2009
Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]
And the West would had just looked on too as If I in my mangled english tried to say before Uncle Joe and Uncle Sam were if not comfy with each other anymore they were hardly open enemies already again.
Anders plan had no chance!
And the West would had just looked on too as If I in my mangled english tried to say before Uncle Joe and Uncle Sam were if not comfy with each other anymore they were hardly open enemies already again.
Anders plan had no chance!
Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]
I don't know about this special issue, but maybe he just wanted to avoid paper work as nearly 100 percent of the citizens were at that time ethnic Germans anyhow...:)
There was no "registration of Poles to Volksliste", that is an oxymoron!
(Or you mean maybe "passport Poles"?)
I don't know about this special issue, but maybe he just wanted to avoid paper work as nearly 100 percent of the citizens were at that time ethnic Germans anyhow...:)
regististration of all Poles to Volksliste
There was no "registration of Poles to Volksliste", that is an oxymoron!
(Or you mean maybe "passport Poles"?)
Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]
What I mean is...that especially calling onto ex-Wehrmacht soldiers to trust them with your fight is not a good idea.
No REAL Pole nor a REAL french nor any other REAL non-German was allowed into the Wehrmacht regardless what they tell you afterwards to save their skins and faced with either death or a gulag as enemy POW.
If I were you I would rather trust a German on german matters! No hard feelings...
What I mean is...that especially calling onto ex-Wehrmacht soldiers to trust them with your fight is not a good idea.
No REAL Pole nor a REAL french nor any other REAL non-German was allowed into the Wehrmacht regardless what they tell you afterwards to save their skins and faced with either death or a gulag as enemy POW.
No hard feelings but I am inclined to believe Korbońnski rather than you ;-)
If I were you I would rather trust a German on german matters! No hard feelings...
Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]
Of course, officially all people in those territories were counted as Poles by the polish officials. :)
But the Volksliste was exactly for that, to separate the ethnic Germans from the ethnic Poles. Nobody was forced to subscribe and only ethnic Germans were allowed into the Wehrmacht. This policy was for all, not only Poles. The Wehrmacht wasn't a multi-national force contrary to the SS.
(And yes there were also the so called Osttruppen or Hilfsfreiwillige, Hiwis,..made up by eastern, mostly russian, volunteers..but they too were also declared as such, never as Wehrmacht!)
97% of the citizens of Danzig were ethnic Germans so....:)
PS: Lot's of soldiers later claimed to be "press ganged" by the Germans (after they lost the war)...me thinks had the Germans won they wouldn't had complained!
My english sucks, sorry!
See? As I said..."allowing" instead of "forcing" or "press ganging".
Most of them were probably of mixed heritage and just chose the german horse...
Of course, officially all people in those territories were counted as Poles by the polish officials. :)
But the Volksliste was exactly for that, to separate the ethnic Germans from the ethnic Poles. Nobody was forced to subscribe and only ethnic Germans were allowed into the Wehrmacht. This policy was for all, not only Poles. The Wehrmacht wasn't a multi-national force contrary to the SS.
(And yes there were also the so called Osttruppen or Hilfsfreiwillige, Hiwis,..made up by eastern, mostly russian, volunteers..but they too were also declared as such, never as Wehrmacht!)
In Gdańsk (Danzig) and Pomerania all Poles
97% of the citizens of Danzig were ethnic Germans so....:)
PS: Lot's of soldiers later claimed to be "press ganged" by the Germans (after they lost the war)...me thinks had the Germans won they wouldn't had complained!
This bit seems lost in translation to me?
My english sucks, sorry!
...complained to Himmler that Forster was indescriminately allowing Poles with no claim to German ethnicity on the Volksliste!
See? As I said..."allowing" instead of "forcing" or "press ganging".
Most of them were probably of mixed heritage and just chose the german horse...
Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]
"Poles" conscripted to the Wehrmacht had to bring evidence that they were ethnic Germans.
More possible they didn't want to risk death and treatment as enemy soldiers in running over to the polish side.
I wouldn't give much about them if I were you.
Something similiar happened to the alsatian Germans who became POW's by the french who generously provided them with the choice to become enemy prisoners or admitting their "frenchness". What do you think most of them did choose in that situation?
(A good read about what happened to those alsatians at the end of the war)
amazon.com/Forgotten-Soldier-Guy-Sajer/dp/1574882864
Where were the 95% as it was about fighting the Germans?
Highly doubtful, especially as Uncle Joe and Uncle Sam were if not allies anymore not in a hot war with each other...
There is every reason to suppose that this plan could have worked as this was what happened with the Polish 2nd Corps in Italy which was reinforced substantially by Poles conscripted into the Wermacht and were taken prisoner in Italy who after screening joined Anders' Army in the liberation of Italy.
"Poles" conscripted to the Wehrmacht had to bring evidence that they were ethnic Germans.
More possible they didn't want to risk death and treatment as enemy soldiers in running over to the polish side.
I wouldn't give much about them if I were you.
Something similiar happened to the alsatian Germans who became POW's by the french who generously provided them with the choice to become enemy prisoners or admitting their "frenchness". What do you think most of them did choose in that situation?
(A good read about what happened to those alsatians at the end of the war)
amazon.com/Forgotten-Soldier-Guy-Sajer/dp/1574882864
Anders is recorded as telling the US ambassador in London that he anticipated that 95% of Poles in Poland would rise up against the Soviet army occupying Poland to support his Polish army in the liberation of Poland.
Where were the 95% as it was about fighting the Germans?
Highly doubtful, especially as Uncle Joe and Uncle Sam were if not allies anymore not in a hot war with each other...