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pawian   
7 Apr 2012
Travel / Polish Road Tax ViaToll , a legal rip off before Euro 2012 ? [26]

Don`t be silly. Polish buses are stopped and detained in France or Germany and when Poles protest, everybody is surprised anjd they advise to read local laws more carefully.

My advise to those French is: read local law.
pawian   
7 Apr 2012
Travel / Polish Road Tax ViaToll , a legal rip off before Euro 2012 ? [26]

The quote from the French link:

However, this does not surprise a representative of the National Federation of carriers (FNTR). "Taxes are popping up all over Europe. It is hard to follow and carriers must register on a tax website in each country. Poland is only as practical as Spain, the payment of fines is in cash "

And the comment of one French forumer:

For me it is the bus company that tried to save money by cheating, then using its customers as hostages.
pawian   
7 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Yet, PO party holds strong.

oh sure it holds strong -

Ok, I understand that PO is currently in the center of your interest for some reasons.

However, I started this thread with the news about the leaders of two conservative right-wing parties who both declared to run in presidential elections are rivals.

Do you think it is a good situation?

minister Nowak promised the same thing in November

So they will have to eat their own words.
pawian   
7 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

there will be no more PO in 3 years time, people - and the visible signs will be soon before your very eyes - the A2 connection to Warsaw will NOT be hunderd per cent sure ready for EURO2012 and there is a growing scandal around it

2 months ago on the evening news they reported that A2 motorway near Warsaw would not be ready for EURO .

It will be the company filed for bankruptcy Lower Silesia Raw Rock (DSS ) is responsible for the construction of the A2 motorway. The company is in arrears with the payment of several million zł one of the subcontractors. Therefore, he decided to enter the court. Thus, the chances that the A2 will be completed before Euro 2012 decreasing to almost zero .

The case concerns the "C " that DSS was completed when performers from China. Problems with payments to subcontractors stretch for some time. Several times there have even block the road in front of the company, which thus tried to pressure the DDS to pay outstanding debts . Since the measures have not yielded the expected results , the company TR Construction decided to change strategy and submission of a formal application.


Actually, experts had already warned about it 9 months ago after the infamous Chinese failure.

Yet, PO party holds strong.

Strange.

Gumishu, are you sure?
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Does anyone, anywhere, believe one word this guy says?

Jaorsław Kaczyński is a respectable, patriotic politician.

So is Zbigniew Ziobro.

It seems that the conservative right will be divided in 2015, thereby

Thereby guaranteeing a win for PO.

According to the saying: divide et impera.
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't both the orthodox and protestant church (or their church services, respectively) made illegal in Poland-Lithuania and Poland during certain time periods?

That is why I also added:

And it functioned as such for centuries, though with some intervals.

Is the word interval so closely connected with the theatre that it becomes obscure when used in political context?

Sorry, I am not a native speaker, my horribly primitive English can`t render all shades and nuances I want to transmit.

I doubt that, he is employed by the party currently in power

hahaha Iron, I just love it when you write about me in third person singular. Can you go on and never stop? :):):):):)
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Two months ago Jarosław Kaczyński, leader of conservative right wing PiS, vowed he wasn`t going to run.

"Today, I have no presidential ambitions," Kaczynski told the Super Express daily, "but I want to be prime minister."

thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/91249,Kaczynski-wants-premiership-not-presidency

A month ago, Zbigniew Ziobro, leader of a newly formed conservative right wing party, Solidarna Polska, former member of PiS, announced he is going to run.

In response to Law and Justice (PiS) leader Jarosław Kaczyński's recent announcement that he is not interested in running for president, his rival on the right, Zbigniew Ziobro, has stated that he will be seeking to become president in three years' time.

Mr Ziobro, a former justice minister and current head of Solidarity Poland, said that since Mr Kaczyński had "abdicated" his role as a presidential candidate, he could not imagine that the Polish right would be deprived of a conservative with a "realistic" chance of winning the presidency.


wbj.pl/blog/The_business_of_politics/post-342-battle-on-the-right.htm

Poland Ziobro

Today, Jarosław Kaczyński declared he is going to run.

The news was extensively commented on by major European and world news agencies.

Warsaw (dpa) - Poland's Jaroslaw Kaczynski, head of the right-wing Law and Justice party, said Friday he had decided to run in the 2015 presidential elections, at the behest of party members.

"I am under pressure from my party," the opposition leader told TVN 24. "I have changed my mind."
Kaczynski's announcement came days before the second anniversary of the plane crash in Russia that killed his twin brother, then-president Lech Kaczynski, and 95 others on April 10, 2010.

Jaroslaw Kaczynski recently sparked criticism by saying the plane crash had not been an accident, and looked "increasingly like an assassination" engineered by Russia.

The conservative party, popular among elderly and Catholic voters, is known to be reluctant in trusting Moscow and Berlin, Poland's historic foes.


en.europeonline-magazine.eu/polands-kaczynski-changes-mind-will-run-for-president-in-2015_203071.html
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

Keep your nation, Polish. Otherwise it will cease to be Poland.

If you learnt history at school, you would know that Old Poland was a multiethnic/ multicultural country. And it functioned as such for centuries, though with some intervals.

The Commonwealth was an important European center for the development of modern social and political ideas. It was famous for its rare quasi-democratic political system, praised by philosophers such as Erasmus; and, during the Counter-Reformation, was known for near-unparalleled religious tolerance, with peacefully coexisting Catholic, Jewish, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant and Muslim communities. In the 18th century, the French Catholic Rulhiere wrote of 16th century Poland: "This country, which in our day we have seen divided on the pretext of religion, is the first state in Europe that exemplified tolerance. In this state, mosques arose between churches and synagogues.”
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

I am sure the people of Paris, London, Malmo etc. thought the same.

Those people had material wealth but no culture. Wealth attracted immigrants but culture didn`t. :)

You are an incredibly naive individual.

I prefer to be naive than such a wet blanket. Man, you should definitely learn to be more optimistic!! :):

Are you employed by the Polish state to teach?

I am hired by the state school, by semi-state university and by private individuals. I work from 8.20 to 8.20 except for Sundays and holidays.

Why?

wow.

Yes, wow! :):
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Poland under Kaczyński had quite a good understanding with most of her neighbours except Russia and Germany and with baltic states - had not the ex-communists ruled Hungary at that time we would have had friendly understanding and cooperation with Hungary too -

Very funny. Under Kaczyński we had good relations with all except Russia and Germany. Do you mean Slovakia and The Czech Republic, naturally? :):):):):)

BTW, do you know what the Polish export to Russia and Germany amounts to? :):):):) And to Slovakia?

now Poland is de facto quite isolated in Europe because our allies have seen Poland as as a German client and unreliable -

Hahahaha very funny indeed.
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
Language / łania or klempa? [6]

Yes, of course, klępa relates to an animal, while klempa to a peevish woman.
pawian   
6 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

I said somewhere else: Polish culture is attractive enough to make people integrate. I am optimistic about it. :):):):)

When I said it,

I had this in mind

Poles attached to a traditional Easter
04.04.2012 14:57
With the Easter holidays fast approaching, a new survey finds that Poles still associate the holiday with traditions such as blessing food in Church and sharing eggs.

As Easter in much of the western world has been reduced to buying the kids chocolate Easter eggs, 90 percent of Poles cling to traditions associated with the Christian festivity.

The study shows that Easter continues to be a stronghold of Polish tradition, as celebrations have remained unchanged over decades.
Eighty percent of respondents cannot imagine the Christian holiday without special cakes, such as the babka or mazurek, or without śmigus-dyngus -the 'Wet Easter Monday 'tradition, which gives, mainly, the perfect excuse to drench girls, and each other, with buckets of water.

Figures have been dropping in the case of festive cards being sent ahead of the holidays, however.
While in the late 1990s the custom was prevalent across the country, it has been preserved in 70 percent of families.


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Show me a child who doesn`t find painting eggs or splashing each other with water attractive? ??? :):):):):)

With mixed or different origin, the emigree kids will be true Poles one day. :):):):) Why? Because Polish culture, though based on peasant folklore in many aspects, is FUN! :):):):):
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
News / Poles are able to forgive their enemies - how noble. [68]

"The struggle, reconciliation and friendship" - is part of the title of the exhibition, which is 30 August 2002 opened in the Municipal Cultural Centre in Gniezno. Exhibitions devoted to the history of friendship between two pilots, who many years ago, the first day of a stormy September, met in the sky as mortal enemies.

The protagonists of the exhibition presented in Gniezno were two pilots, who on the first day of September 1939 met the sky as mortal enemies. Wladyslaw Gnys and Frank Neubert - because they Sept. 1 took part in air battle over the Malopolska - many years after the war they met again. Two former enemies joined friendship that lasted until his death. Just about this friendship, for reconciliation, but also the nightmare years of the war assembled the exhibition in Gniezno.


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_Gnyś
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Language / Birthday wishes / jokes in Polish? [9]

(are there any good Polish birthday jokes)

Plenty:

Nie żałuj sobie w życiu niczego: ani słodkiego, ani procentowego. Jedz, pij i popuszczaj pasa! Niech ci się wiedzie jak za króla Sasa! Olej trudności, wszelkie zmartwienia. Ode mnie przyjmij najlepsze życzenia!

prezenty-i-zyczenia.pl/Zyczenia-Dnia/100,Smieszne-zyczenia-urodzinowe
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

We have a similar problem in Australia - not with Turks but with Lebanese.

Wow, every day I learn sth new. :):):):)

I wish Poland all the best, but as I've said already: look west (not only Germany, but everywhere) and you will see what happens if your country is not careful.

The Western countries were flooded with large waves of immigrants in the past. Germany - about 50.000 Turkish people every year.

1961 7,116 1986 1,425,721
1962 15,300 1987 1,481,369
1963 27,100 1988 1,523,678
1964 85,200 1989 1,612,632

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany

Poland will not receive such numbers so soon. Therefore, it will be easier for immigrants to adopt the Polish culture.

I don`t believe the following will happen in Poland during my lifetime:
Due to the geographic proximity of Germany and Turkey, cultural transfer and influence from the country of origin has remained considerable among the Turkish minority. Furthermore, the majority of second-generation Turks appear to have developed emotional and cultural ties to their parent's country and also to the country which they live in and intend to remain.[77] Most Turks live in two conflicting cultures with contrasting behaviour codes and patterns of belonging. At work or school, German culture tends to dominate, while during leisure time social networks divide along ethnic lines of the Turkish culture. In the first generation of migrants, social networks were almost exclusively Turkish, and now in the second and third generations this segregation line remains just as effective as ever.[
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
News / US-POLAND special relationship [20]

It appears Poland will soon be included in the visa waiver programme, so the special relationship will have paid off after all.

I am sceptic.
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Travel / From Warsaw to Bialystok on a bike [12]

wylaw: You really scared me off a bit going for E67. Dead cyclist along the road? Sounds as it's a pretty common thing...
Don't even think about it. That road is bad enough if you're in a car.

Road E67 is adapted for bike transport in certain areas

in other it isn`t:

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pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

In theory, yes, but if you look across the border to the west you will see that many, many Turks never integrate (they are even told so by their current prime minister Erdogan).

I said somewhere else: Polish culture is attractive enough to make people integrate. I am optimistic about it. :):):):)

If your German Turks don`t want to integrate, it means the modern German culture isn`t appealing to them.

The child will be a Polish citizen, but first and foremost it will be a Turk, speaking Turkish as his/her first language, and being brought up with Turkish values. If the child is a boy, he will most likely not marry a Polish girl but bring a woman from Turkey.

You are so wrong. They will be brought up with Turkish-Polish values, speaking both languages well.

If the child is a boy, he will most likely not marry a Polish girl but bring a woman from Turkey.

Come on... :):):):):):):) Bringing a girl from Turkey to Poland would be like bringing coal from Manchester to Newcastle. :):):):):):)
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

They were known in Polish as Głuchoniemcy (głuchy=deaf, niemy=dumb) -

Respected farmers and craftsmen. They contributed a lot into the development of the areas they settled in.
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

However there is difference between elite, Polish elite was more moral than any elite from any given country.

Stop dreaming. Polish elites once willingly led to the annihilation of their independent country. Remember that painting?:

Do Germans have such paintings?
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

But... I don't want to run a kebab bar.

Of course.

But you need to have some work in Poland.

I would like to have another job which would be related to what I study.

If your plan A fails, you need to have plan B. Even C.

I don't want to be known for being Turk in Poland.

Come on, there is no need to be ashamed of your original nationality. Your children will be Polish, but born from a Turkish father and Polish mother. What is wrong with that?
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Józef Unrug
fought for Germany in WW1 and later for Poland in WWII

Wow, that is sth new to me:

[i]Unrug was born in Brandenburg an der Havel into the Germanized family of Tadeusz Unrug, a major-general in the Prussian Army. After graduating from gymnasium in Dresden, Unrug completed Navy School in 1907 and began service in the German Navy. During World War I he commanded a U-boat, earning promotion to the command of a submarine flotilla.[/quote]
There is always balance in nature.

So let's face it: In nationalistic times we learned to see each other as strangers and enemies, but the truth is: in the end we are brothers and sisters, or at least first grade cousins. ;-)

Amen!

I think that is partly because this:
is far more interesting than this (:

But this
youtube.com/watch?v=vQhqikWnQCU

is far more interesting

than this:

youtu.be/RW4DlEuBxWc

As I said, there is balance. :):):):)
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

When does innocence comes to end and personal guilt begins?

Very good remark. Yes, selecting truly innocent from really guilty is a hard task indeed.

Of course I would blame any Polish individual if I knew he was a rapist or murderer of civilians, because not tolerating such crimes should be one of the basic laws of civilization.

I agree.
pawian   
5 Apr 2012
Travel / From Warsaw to Bialystok on a bike [12]

I thought of cycling on E67 via Ostrow Mazowiecka. Is this the way to go?

No, it is much better to choose CR88 via Zagościniec, Chrzęsne, Morzyczyn Włóki and Mystki-Rzym:

Poland cycling
Bicycle in Poland
pawian   
4 Apr 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]

So the problem is... The student in Turkey wants to marry a Polish girl.

If you are really determined to settle in Poland one day, there is one thing you must do now: start learning Polish. You won`t count as a valuable employee if you can`t speak Polish. Even if you are a boss of your own business, you will have to speak Polish to deal with Polish partners.

After grasping basic Polish, you will be able to read and understand what guys write about opening/running a kebab bar in Poland: biznesforum.pl/maly-lokal-z-kebabem-vt11611.html

Bieganski has been dropping analytical truth on this thread from the outset. I'm coming back to this just to read his posts.
Bravo!

Yes, the guy is very knowledgeable. However, I discovered traces of feeling of wanton superiority in some of his recent posts. That is a mistake - he should remain a cold analyst - killer professional who doesn`t let himself be carried away too easily. :):):):)
pawian   
4 Apr 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Very interesting opinion.

But East Prussians, German Silesians and Pomeranians and people from Eastern Brandenburg (present day Lubusz) had to take pay the price for Nazi Germany's crimes.

Yes, indeed, they paid a horrible price.

After the millions of crimes that happened to Polish citizens from Nazi Germany's side I don't expect you to be sorry about that, but it would be nice if it was respected from the Polish side they payed a big price for their wrongs between 1933 and 1945.

Well, I am sorry while I discuss it with you, a cultural intelligent interlocutor who is able to explain his views in an unobtrusive way. :):):):)

Of course there are also accounts of Poles mistreating Germans

If those Germans were innocent civilians who neither supported Nazis nor participated in Nazi crimes and were disgusted/horrified at Hitler`s plans to exterminate Poles or turn them into slaves, then any atrocities committed on them by Poles were inexcusable and should be viewed as criminal behaviour, for which Poles should take responsibility during the current reconciliation process.

Now, the question is: how many innocent Germans like that were oppressed by Poles? Tens? Hundreds? Thousands?

Probably not millions.... :):):):)
Let`s face the truth - most Germans were actively involved.

Did any Poles go to jail for mistreating German civilians in 1945?

I seriously doubt it.