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Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish. [231]

We all descend from somewhere, or so they say ;) ;)

True! Culture shock has to be experienced and adjustments have to be made. You cannot seclude yourself from that so easily.

Language is the foundation element, that which we base our turns of phrase on and, well, virtually everything that matters. Without this core aspect, you cannot claim to be Polish and that's what delph said too.

Well, accepted by whom? If you have a meaningful connection to that country through mixed parentage, you are part Polish. End of story! Some lean towards one side at the expense of the other. Some embrace both and that's great! I know Thai/Polish guys brought up in the US. They chose not to learn Thai but one brother did. The other 2 focussed on learning Polish. They are more Polish than I am for sure.

Survival of the fittest and all that :) God gave us the power to adapt so we'd be as well use it ;)
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]

Well, there are rewards in terms of harmony. If you let a woman play to her strengths and enable/facilitate that process then she will be grateful. However, gratitude is usually a fleeting moment in otherwise turbulent minds ;) ;)
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish. [231]

Bzibby made a good point that trener zolwia agreed with. Incidental births are not the deciding factor at all. For example, a pregnant wife could have gone on holiday with her husband and given birth in that country. They have no meaningful connection with that country at all. The child then cannot really be considered as a child of that country unless they establish a settled intention to stay there. Otherwise, no firm grounding is set.

Now, let me have a look at that list.

1) Blood - Blood is so mixed these days given upward mobility. However, it is a crucial determining factor and one which Poles cling to rigidly. Given its internal nature, the logic is sound unless complicating factors come along.

2) Birth/Habitation - These should be dealt with separately. Birth could be merely incidental as stated above. Habitual residence is a matter of debate amongst PIFL laywers and academics. The critical wording is what I used above, 'a settled intention' to lay down roots. Also, ordinarily resident and residential status are different things too. I've been ordinarily resident in Poland for 6 years now but they only count 3 as I didn't register as I wasn't told to. I could easily show a contract but there we go. Anyway, no digressions. It matters that one is habitually resident but one can break that continuity for considerable time and still be Polish. Let me tie this in with the school of thought which says that those abroad for 3-5 years shouldn't be allowed to vote due to being deemed out of touch. Poles can still maintain an active interest in Polish issues abroad and Poles here may not care a jot for such matters yet those people still posit that the Pole abroad should be disenfranchised. Odd!

3) Culture - Religion and language form part of what culture is. Religion? Well, it's not only Poles that are Catholics for starters. Also, sticker culture is useless unless you know what the sticker stands for. I don't think Catholicism, as understood, defines Polishness. Traits may be influenced by religious teachings, of course, but they are not defining beyond reasonable doubt. Language? Again, not defining but it does allow you to tap more into the Polish psyche. Those on Europa da się lubić are not Polish, don't feel Polish yet they speak Polish fluently. They can see where Poles are coming from and glean clear insights but they are still ambassadors for their country and not Poland.

4) Personal preference/declaration - Anyone can claim anything, plausible or implausible. I could really identify with aspects of many cultures I came into contact with but that doesn't mean I belong to that culture. Had I stayed in Japan for 10 years, I might have come to see myself more through their eyes. The same goes for Poland. I will always be a Scot and deep understanding/knowledge of others should not be confused with essence.

5) Sth else? Hmm....maybe a meaningful attachment to norms (inextricably linked to culture, I know). For example, Poles often say 'My Polacy' (us Poles). If you fit many of the things they say, which tend to be highly accurate btw, then there is a high likelihood that you belong if combined with other material factors. Those who Americanise themselves, though still technically Polish, may have gotten out of the 'our way of life' approach taken by many Poles. Thus, their status as Polish diminishes, rightly or wrongly. I can attribute this to the homogeneity in Polish culture. Time spent abroad will test the water further in time.

If one feels Polish, one is not necessarily Polish, Mr G. That's hogwash, sorry! I could feel Polish as Scottish history is much the same. The Scots, like the Poles, are rugged fighters but there are differences. Nonetheless, I have Polish family and a small part of me feels Polish. It doesn't make me Polish, though.
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Food / Nothing better than skwarki! [19]

I have to eat nothing for 2 months before going to Gazdówka and trying pierogi z skwarkami :) :) Even more so given that they serve bread with lard before the pierogi even come. I usually have 'soup of a rich shepherd' :) :) Oh, and a beer to wash it down with too. You can see now why I diet for ages before going there in winter.
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Life / INVISIBLE MAN in shops and offices in Poland? [70]

Another bizarre scenario is where you let a person ahead of you because they say they only have 1 thing to get. They then proceed to buy 6 or 7 things. I won't be making that mistake again. Due to the limited gratitude on display, for sure not.

It's interesting to see the difference between cultural behaviour and inner nature. I saw it more acutely in Japan. They would completely blank you there (in the bookstore outside my work) but would be chatting away quite the thing in class 10 mins later. It's just their way! Characters need a chance to shine and often the culture doesn't allow for that. Poland is a little the same.

Hehehe, the tricks of the trade! I hate when they park their trolleys up your arse in Tesco. I just lean on mine which means they have to move back as I am no longer standing upright. A guy did it in Kaufland. I put the 'next customer' bar down so he could start putting his things up but he kept nudging the bar ever closer to my things, almost so much so that they were overlapping. He also stood right beside me, rather than behind me. I put things up pretty quickly so it wasn't as if I was going slow. Other Poles plod along, putting them up at a snail's pace. I don't know what he thought he was playing at so I just stared at him which made him uncomfortable. The Japanese level of distance was much better. Other than in trains, they maintain a fair gap at all times. You have ample space and time.
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

So long as the Word of God is unheeded and character traits left to their natural course, musicwriter is spot on with what the anecdote he mentioned. Many here are suspicious of their neighbours and as long as the church is treated as no more than a mere formality, a tick in the box if you will, that won't change.

Blessed is he who can rise above that but cultural influences are very strong.
Seanus   
8 Sep 2010
Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]

Well spotted, A J. Catch 22 all around. It's always worth remembering, 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile' here. Giving back is not a strong point.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Life / INVISIBLE MAN in shops and offices in Poland? [70]

The commonality is where the old foglets are. Those fogies can really get on your wick and right up your nose. I intentionally buy a little bit more to keep them waiting, taking a while to choose in the process. Well, when I'm in that kind of mood anyway. They just can't hold back for the world of them. You can see them itching to get served but having to wait. Doesn't the Catholic Church teach them that patience isn't a virtue? It's not like they are the most important people in the world with places to be. They've had their heyday and need to start acknowledging people around them.

Nice thread, wildrover :)
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

Pol3, you remind me of the type that Roger Waters was alluding to in The Wall, the song with 'who let all this riff-raff into the room?'. Are you a practising Christian?
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Chleb z rodzynkami? Istnieje takiego czegoś w Polsce? I didn't know raisin bread was around here but I guess I'd find it in Dom Chleba :)
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Life / INVISIBLE MAN in shops and offices in Poland? [70]

It doesn't change the fact that they are to wait their turn before asking if this or that is available, mafketis. I don't appreciate the shop assistants being distracted by some old biddy asking for a few things. Asking still constitutes part of your turn and it is just rude to start asking when sb is being served.

Anyway, a song for wildrover. Being English, he should know very well who the artist is. Syd Barrett. 'I'm most obliged to you for making it clear that I'm not here' ;)

Next time, wildrover, go in with a compressed airhorn. Anybody that doesn't pay attention, honk it loudly!! Give it some!!

Failing that, wildrover, throw some really cheap beans over them and burst into a gazoo rendition of Corporal Clegg (Pink Floyd) :) :)
youtube.com/watch?v=RTtXVrANEhU
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Life / INVISIBLE MAN in shops and offices in Poland? [70]

I know what you mean, wildrover. It's a bit like Basil Fawlty in one of those episodes where everyone ignores him. I've had it done to me before now. Either that or one of the shop assistants mysteriously decides that she needs to do some stock checking all of a sudden.

Barging in is odd. If more people were thankful, I'd sometimes let them in ahead of me but most take it that they are deserving of their place ahead of you, the foreigner.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

Read the label? Now why would I want to go and do sth like that? ;) ;) Seriously though, what's wrong with those products? They must pass certain health and also safety standards, quality notwithstanding. I'm happy to go with that.

Good for McCain, Kubuś and Jogobella I say :)
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

Heavily industrialised or not, it still tastes good and is popular with consumers.

That's one aspect of Polish life. They have hidden gems. There are better beers than those advertised and known.

Cheese is either sth to be fried up or as a quick snack in the form of a sandwich. In Britain, cheddar is treated as an institution and isn't simply quaffed to fill a hole. I'd go spare if my wife fried up my cheddar here but as for those 7PLN blocks of random cheese she buys, she can go right ahead. The only thing with cheddar is artificial colourings. They seem to have many but I could be wrong. The one I eat here seems natural enough.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

Cheeses here cannot compete with Irish/British/French/German cheeses. That is surprising as Polish dairy is some of the best in the world. There is Irish cheddar here :) Poles tend to eat rather bland food generally and add a lot of salt.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

We are not talking about beer stalls, Teffle ;0 ;)

You see the bad foreign influences here. Most notably, panga. That Vietnamese crap is filled with toxins and is barely fit for consumption. Cod, on the other hand, exudes freshness and some would insist on nothing less than total purity.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
News / Huge costs of preparing for EURO 2012 in Poland [38]

How to profit? More tourism, broader exposure for Poland and the recognition that Poland is capable of staging such a monumental event.

It's as the old saying goes in business, 'you have to spend money to make money'.

Olaf, welcome to the modern business world. Sharks will always find a way to cream profits when it is the spectacle itself which should take centre stage.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
News / Huge costs of preparing for EURO 2012 in Poland [38]

As you likely know, Olaf, some money can boomerang back at you. Money flows are funny things. Poland will recoup much of that. The stadiums need minor touching up, roadworks are well underway in many places and Ukraine is the one that must scratch its head.

Poland is now already through to the next phases and crowds will likely be large as a result. Lots of tourists will be attracted here and they will see just how impressive some parts of Poland are when they take the time to look around. The long-term benefits are there to be seen.

I wouldn't say it's necessarily throwing good money after bad. It will put Poland on the map and bring some much needed organisational skills into the equation too.
Seanus   
7 Sep 2010
Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

Have you been inspecting kiełbaski again, Zeti? ;) ;)

Is Polish food still more natural? Largely, yes. Poland prefers not to use preservatives (no, the Church has said nothing on this type) and has unpasteurised substances too.