History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]


You're proving it by your Anti Semitism. How about that?


I agree. The Islamists and their buddies will be right involved in the Ezekiel 38 war and are involved what's going on in Egypt (Nof, Mitzrayim) and Syria (Dammesek, Damascus).

History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]

I looked to see if he's Jewish when the case first happened. At least per his memoir, he's fully Polish.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]

Yes; but since Ironside was accused of being a bigot, I had to bring up why he might be mentioning what he did.

Yes; but since Ironside was accused of being a bigot, I had to bring up why he might be mentioning what he did. You ought to study the Talmud a little bit--it has some sick stuff. By the way, Anti-Semitic propagandists often try to paint all Jews as P'rushim who study Talmudim Bawli w'Jeruszalajimi (Talmudim Bavli v'Yerushalayimi; which, as I said, has some pretty-sick stuff). Look at Martin Luther--he accused all Jews of following sick stuff like this--Jewamot (Yevamot) 55b (As I said, it's sick; but Ironside implicity brought up a point.).

Also, remember that Poland was a center for P'rushi Judaism.

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The point that Ironside was trying to make, though, is that Polański may have used the Talmud as his rational. By the way, this is why Karaite and many Messianic Jews avoid the Talmud--that is, we (and I speak as a Messianic Jew who) wants nothing to do with the Talmud.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


Yes, he is--and I don't think he was observant of the Talmud, which is sadly chock full of pedophilia, either. That might be a bad point to bring up, by the way; nonetheless, someone needed to say that not all Jews observe the Talmud, are pedophiles, or are Talmud-observant pedophiles. Someone also needed to bring up that you can't always blame Talmud observance for pedophilia, either--though there's an obvious correlation.

The point (which needed to be brought up--because someone was going to bring it up and Ironside was accused of being a bigot--the point) being; Roman Polanski is Jewish, isn't Talmud observant but did commit pedophilia, and doesn't speak for all Jews--even Talmud observers, many of who don't actually know what's really in the Talmud.

Genealogy / Stanisław-derived last names [8]

I'm sure that my relatives did in some cases--Jews are very careful about naming; and if we don't pick out a name with G-d's help, G-d will pick it directly out for us. Jews like myself just do not believe in random chance--co-incidence (co incidences, incidents that happen side by side or at the same time), sure; but not random chance. Therefore, as I said and for example, "Glory of the camp"...my great-granduncle Stanislaw was called "Stanley" and was the firstborn of the boys to become a Messianic Jew--the last one to do it, but the firstborn boy to do it.

As I also said, I wonder if my great-great-grandparents had any idea about great-granduncle Stanley's name when they were naming him. To be fair, they probably didn't and would've been among the generation to die in the desert, anyway, were they born during that time. Nonetheless, Great-Granduncle Stanley was the "glory of the camp" of that family--the firstborn Messianic boy.

As for Elizabeth:


My great-great-grandparents would have known this--they were the first Anusim in that family, so they were well aware what Eliszeva (Eljszeva) or Elisheva meant. Keep in mind that they lived on a farm in Lipsk nad Biebrzą and not in a big city where the Reform, Neolog, or Polish-equivalent Reform and Neolog movements were going on--they were well versed in Torah, or at least what they knew from their clergymen ("rabbis") about Torah and Talmud Bawli (Talmud Bavli). Besides, that was why they were able to be Anusim--that is, as a friend put it, P'rushi Judaism is the Jewish equivalent of Roman Catholicism; and they could easily pretend to be Catholic as they observe the practices of P'rushi Jahadut (P'rushi Yahadut).

Besides, they picked out the Jewish spelling for "Cecilia" (Cecelia) for their youngest daughter; her (that is, Great-Great-Grandma's) name for the next-oldest daughter (Were they descended from "Marranos" and using Sefardi naming practices? I don't know; but naming after the dead is mostly or only an Ashkenazic Jewish practices.), and "Regina" for the oldest (as is far known, anyway. But they lost children who they never spoke the names of; and anyway, none of the surviving girls were named "Mary", "Maria", "Marjsia", "Marisja", "Marja", or any variant of the Virgin Mother Mary's name as used in Catholicism.).

As for "guardian of inherited property", that you mention that is interesting re "Edward"--he probably, given that he was older than Great-Granduncle Bernie, was probably Messianic first; and that's a whole other megillah.

History / Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians [60]


I just think, "Never mind. Christopher Columbus was Jewish (at the same time, phew and damn). The "damn" part because that would have been interesting if he were Polish. Then again, I'm Jewish; so why the "damn"? It's that mixed part of me, I think--I can be such a bag of contradictions, and for that I still can't wrap my head around that I'm Jewish."

Genealogy / Stanisław-derived last names [8]


I'm almost in tears. "Glory of the camp"...my great-granduncle Stanislaw was called "Stanley" and was the firstborn of the boys to become a Messianic Jew--the last one to do it, but the firstborn boy to do it. The weird thing is that much of the past weeks' Torah readings have had to do with the camp of Israel. I wonder if my great-great-grandparents had any idea about great-granduncle Stanley's name when they were naming him.

Genealogy / POLISH NOBILITY NAMES IN -SKIi [82]

"Wicz" means "son" or "descendant"--e.g., Daniłowicz (of which I have no indication as to whether I am a Danite or just a descendant of a Daniel), Andrulewicz (Andrulevich. My great-granddad was born in Cumań on his mother's way to visit a cousin in Kiew), Morgiewicz (or Margiewicz. Anyway, we are still Jews).

Meanwhile, my granddad told the cockamamie story that we were related to Stefan Czarniecki and that we are of Polish-Lithuanian noble descent. Not even close! We were Jews who settled in Lipsk, Suwałki, Białystok, Krasne, Sejny, Bose, and G-d knows where else in Polish Russia.


Thank you. This only helps to confirm that we are Jews. Great-Great-Granddad Chernetski (whose granddad was a Jewish Chernetski, and his mother a Jewish Laczinsky) was set to inherit the family farm in Lipsk nad Biebrzą until he converted during the pogroms. Meanwhile, I don't have off hand who said that Morgiewicz or Margiewicz came from "Margolis" in some cases, but someone said it--Great-Great-Grandma Czarnecki's mother was a Morgiewicz (Margiewicz. She botched the names quite deliberately on the death certificate--in the way that she left information for Great-Grandaunt Alice to fill out, anyway).

Language / Help me figure out the spelling of these Polish names? [17]

Los-chuh-ski? Probably Losczuski.

Genealogy / Why the escape in the 1800s ? Searching for my family roots. [25]


The pogroms began shortly after 1881, or at least that's when Anti Semitism ticked up. Remember that Poland was divided among Germany (Prussia), Russia (which included the Ukraine and the Polish Ukraine, among Poland other countries), and Austria Hungary. In Russia, Czar Nicholas II had no kawod for the Jews.

Genealogy / DOBROUOSKY, Julia born Danzig about 1850 [4]

Try Ancestry.

Genealogy / can one find any info if they do not know the Polish parish where ancestors were born? [4]

whiz


Let me give you my story in the short form and as an example: I'm the "Polish"-- really Ashkenazic Jewish-- descendant of an unknown Chernetski, whose name became Antoni Jan Julianowicz Czarniecki, then Anthony John Czarnecki, Sr.. When I first began researching, I got an e-mail that read in part that a town called Lisko Orlisko, where Great-Granddad Anthony "Tony" Czarnecki, Sr. was born, was Lipsko in between Radom and Puławy. Lisko Orlisko actually turned out to be Lipsk nad Biebrzą, and all we still know so far is that the Chernetskis owned a family farm in Lipsk nad Biebrzą, Augustów, Suwałki, Poland Russia. We have no szul (shul) or parish information-- not that we will without LDS microfilm records, anyway; since once we became Anusim, we were sat sziva for.


I should've said "where Great-Granddad['s] dad and granddad were born." Great-Granddad was born in Cumań, Kiwercowski, Wołyń.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Please. "Pestering"? First, you let the Roshim try to murder us during the pogroms, the Pre Shoah (if you will). Then you still have failed to repairate us completely both b'Galut and b'Eretz Yisra'el.

Love / POLISH GIRLFRIEND WONT PAY HER WAY [127]


One of my Spanish(?)-Irish-Frankish-Gaelic-Briton American aunts has a shopping addiction, and she admits it.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


From what I understand, don't the Zidowsky restaraunts do better than the Polski restaraunts in even Polska?

Off-Topic / Is there any chance Slavs to form Confederation or its just an utopia? [12]

I think that a Slavic confederation is beyond utopia. I come from a Jewish Christian perspective (not to mention an Ashkenazic Jewish perspective, to which I think everyone is accustomed here by now). Based on Ezekiel 38 (and Polonia doesn't belong to Gomer, Rosh, or Togarmah-- i.e., Germany/Germanic-Frankish nations, Russia, including Meshech and Tubal(sk); and Togarmah, which is Armenia, Tuekey, etc.); I just don't see Poland hooking up with particularly Rosh-- or (unless the Czech and Slovakian Republics count as part of Rosh) the Czechs and Slovakians hooking up with each other.

Basically, this is how I see the idea of Slavic countries forming a confederation:
youtube.com/watch?v=wMKTB95-LVk&ob=av2e

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

And Lebowski-- don't forget Lebowski. Then again, that could be Ashkenazic Jewish in origin-- e.g., Leib-> Leb-> Lebov, and so the cycle goes.

Genealogy / Red Hair - recessive gene from Poland? [108]

The redheads are likely Poland-born or Poland-based Jews. Remember, both Jacob and Esau had red hair. Also, my granduncle Francis Anthony "Red" Czarnecki had red hair; and he and all four of his brothers are ethnically Jewish (although he and one of the brothers have been no longer with us for a while).

USA, Canada / Do you speak English? Have you lived in America? New LOVE/HATE list......... [144]

FUZZYWICKETS, he did abide. Ziemowit, as an American who's going to make aliyah if I can (not an easy task, but every Jew has a mitzvah to make aliyah if he or she can); I can tell you that the USA isn't looking much better than Polinyah right now: say goodbye to even Disneyworld if the DOW keeps tanking.


My list is a little different; and I speak as a Jew whose Lipsk nad Biebrzą-born great-granddad somehow survived as an Anusi.

Reasons I love America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Charles Krauthammer
Dick Morris (though he can sometimes though that Mark Levin and Ann Coulter line)
Geraldo Rivera (though I don't always agree with him. Besides, where else-- even Israel-- can a "mamzer" have any success? And his mom, Lillie "Lillian" Friedman Rivera is descended from Dolhinov, Poland (now Daŭhinava, Belarus)-born Jews.)

Reasons I dislike America:
Barack Obama (well, more that Anti-Semitic, Pseudo-Jewish Afrocentric of a wife who he married)
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Charles Rangel (though Marc Lamont Hill and others are a lot worse)
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC and The Drudge Report
Mark Levin (who's toed that nasty Ann Coulter line too many times)
Sean Hannity (for the same reasons as Mark Levin; except Sean's a gojiszker kop.
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin (the Filipina Catholic Ann Coulter, and one with hutzpah to boot)
Glenn Beck

And every other seditious far-left-wing and far-right-wing wacko who are doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, my Slovakian-Polish American great-grandma was a Clinton Democrat whose Jewish-Polish son Jack Czarnecki understandably hated Nixon.

Life / Cost of raising a child in Poland [21]

It depends. Are you looking at an assimilated or a Jewish experience? If assimilated (and as a Jewish American who went to a private Christian school-- long megillah--, I'm taking my best guess here), you'll probably have less expenses. If Jewish (Messianic especially)-- b'tzlacha; watch the budget!

Genealogy / Is Aleska a Polish baby name ? [42]

My great-great-grandmother was the Jewish Aleksjondria Alicja Andrulewicza Chernetska, who was meshuga but didn't have a bad name.

Genealogy / Tschiediel, Jalowieski, Jansz-Stengert, Biedniakov-Bielakiewicz [4]


Tschiediel? Maybe I'm a nut, but (if I'm not meshuga), baruch at! As for the other names... just be checking. If I'm right, make aliyah if you can.

Genealogy / Unanswered Polish names requests - anyone have information on the following? [21]

And some of those families were lost in the Shoah, or at least lost branches in the Shoah, and/or made aliyah. What else would you like me to tell you?

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

You want to take any part of Rosz, Meszekh, w'Tubal into Polinjah? That is your scztik. I will say that you help increase the rates of alijah, though; toda raba.

History / Poland's King Jan III Sobieski - the stopper of Turkish Janissaries! [64]

I have no nice words for Gomer (Germany, Austria, and the rest of the Frankish nations) myself-- even though my gentile (as far as I know, gentile) mom is of Frankish descent.

Love / Polish girls attitudes towards sex. [568]

Thank you, angel eyes. And the reason that women cheat is because some man did something first.

Genealogy / POLISH NOBILITY NAMES IN -SKIi [82]

"-ski" could be a mark of nobility as well, but it's also a very Jewish-Polish or other Jewish-Slavic suffix. Then again, according to Wikipedia (and be discerning about Wikipedia), Marek Soieski's mother was Zofia Danilowicza (Sofia Danylovna).