Life / What are your experiences of care for your loved ones in hospitals here? [75]


You seem to apologise to Dougpol for the health policy forged in Ireland. You really don't have to, Ms Atch. Ireland is an independent country and doesn't need to follow the example of her former disgusting "masters" in London.

Life / What are your experiences of care for your loved ones in hospitals here? [75]


Bitter Englanders go to live in Spain in large numbers as well. Even if it's much warmer and there is less rain in Spain than in the UK, I don't understand why they decide to leave the UK paradise and its excellent health service for Spain. It seems to be a kind of suicide for them.

Life / What are your experiences of care for your loved ones in hospitals here? [75]


You don't get it, Dougpol - providing a Czech example I was refering to Ireland where additional charges have been introduced despite the fact they already pay to their ZUS. Or do you think they don't have any Irish ZUS?



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No, I haven't. You don't know it yet? - the UK isn't the navel of the world, so there is really no need for anyone to be there.

Language / How do Poles feel about foreigners learning their language? [105]

First of all, I am not surprised of yet another Mazur's lamentable attempt at pushing the Polish language even deeper into disrepute. This is some kind of a sick personal hobby of his, I must say.

"Niech mamusia (to zostawi/coś zrobi)" ... is a very old-fashioned phrase used today by 45 or more year old country boys in the truly deep country. True, it may have been fairly common in towns as well in the 1960s at the time when Mazur was leaving Poland with the tail between his legs, but this is no longer the case today.

If Mazur's mamusia left a forwarding address with him when she was leaving home for ever, he would definitely have been able to ask her directly rather than polluting this forum with his silly language remarks.

Life / What are your experiences of care for your loved ones in hospitals here? [75]


Any charge that would be proposed for any medical service provided by the National Health Service in Poland would be inevitably turned down by the government of whatever party in power because of strong public resistance to it in Poland.

I shall remind you that they had managed to introduce a very modest charge for seeing a GP in the Czech Republic (about 5 zloty) to put a curb on old pensioners basically visiting their GP for a chat and as a result the previous Czech governments fell. Nevertheless, the reform has stayed on.

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


Tut mir leid, das habe ich nicht verstanden ...

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


He is not a kid. He is 27 or something about that age. The question is: what will he behave like when he turns 60?

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


This is an incorrect phrase. No one in Poland would have ever tell it that way. Anyone for correcting Dirk on that?

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


You are mistaken


stróż


rolniczka

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


#MeToo. Even if it it is very much assimilated by now, I am pretty sure this word did not exist before 1939. Perhaps they were using "pieśniarka" instead.

What about 'psycholożka' or 'socjolożka'? Anyway, those seem more awkward than 'lekarka', for example. "Ministra" is the newest invention which brought a lot of laughter.

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


Whereas I could agree with your previous opinion that the 'y' in być and b1tch may sound almost identical, I think this one is utterly wrong.

If I tried to use the pronounciation of "b1tch" to replace the original pronounciation of "być", I'm sure that 99,9 % of my compatriots here in Poland would have thought I had a speech impediment.


This seems a very far-fetched conclusion.


'Conundrum' sounds funny to me. 'Zakopane' sounded posh and original to some English people who once came to visit Poland.

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the vowel 'i' rather than about the final 'y' in 'pitny'. In my view the final 'y' is a much easier concept than the 'y' in the middle of the word. As a weaker sound, it shouldn't be much of a problem for foreigh speakers of Polish.


No, I don't. But I think it is pretty similar. It is the 'ć' and 'tch' that make the real difference here.


This is indeed very likely. Unfortunately, we have no recordings of medieval Polish, but in Russian the initial consonant is typically stronger than in Polish.

Law / Money with ZUS - what happens to it when I leave Poland and come back home? [23]


Isn't ZUS one big Ponzi scheme which is destined to implode sonner or later ...?

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


Hey, Atch, you wanted to say "is not pronounced ..." in the above sentence of yours, didn't you? The question of 'y' vs. 'i' in Polish should really be inspected in the light of the soft vs. hard consonants. A hard one will be followed by 'y', whereas the matching soft one will be followed by 'i'. For 'być' you have its phonetic counterpart in "bić". The word 'pitny' would have its hard counterpart in 'pytny' (even if the latter does not exist in Polish), so it is the 'y' in 'pytny' that would be equal to 'y' in 'być'.

Genealogy / Was there a town in Galicia named Bič? [5]

This is beacause the daszek over c is the Czech or Slovak way of spelling the consonant which in Polish is spelled as "cz" (this same sound is spelt as "ch" in English or as "tsch" in German). It is totally unlikely that the spelling "Bič" would be the original spelling used in Galicia, so the only expalanation is that the priest using that spelling was of Czech or Slovak origin or the priest was a German Austrian writing a Slavic name under the influence of the Czech language.

Genealogy / Was there a town in Galicia named Bič? [5]

Biecz is situated near the town of Gorlice in former Galicia.

Life / Polish Militia - the growth of unofficial militia groups in Poland. [6]

Then it is not "unofficial", it is just not under the command of the Army.

Life / Polish Militia - the growth of unofficial militia groups in Poland. [6]

What do you mean by "unofficial"? Every militia group which is unofficial is illegal.

History / Frederick the Great governments from Poland's perspective [24]

An interesting article touching the subject of Frederick the Great from Poland's perspective was published several days ago in the "Berliner Zeitung". The article discusses links between the climate and political conflicts in the world over the ages and among them it lists the one of Frederick the Great against Poland:

Collet and his colleagues stated, among other things, that the First Polish Partition must also be viewed in the context of a dramatic hunger crisis. Between 1770 and 1772 all over Europe was devastated by crop failures. It was a time when the so-called Little Ice Age, a global cooling from the 13th to the 18th century, once again showed its hard side. Frederick the Great took advantage of the crisis by squeezing large quantities of grain from weakened Poland with the help of his troops. With these additional food for his army in the hindquarters he appeared in the conflict over Poland far more confident than his competitors. Thus he was able to force the long-planned annexation of West Prussia and at the same time to stage himself as a caring "bread king" by passing the confiscated grain partially to his subjects.

berliner-zeitung.de/wissen/kriege--krisen--revolutionen-schreibt-das-klima-geschichte--30970510

History / Silesia to Czechia [54]

I can see the two of them: Województwo Dolnołużyckie and Górnołużyckie.
And also :
Województwo Braniborskie, Rujańsko-pomorskie and Obodrzyckie.
Berlin and the areas around it might form: Województwo Stodorańskie.

The new frontier would run along the Elbe and Saale river line. The above six voivodships would be granted extensive autonomy within the new Poland.

History / Silesia to Czechia [54]


And you are a Norwegian idiot who claims to be Polish.

History / Silesia to Czechia [54]


Which ones were they?

History / Silesia to Czechia [54]


Yes, it would be a complete nonsense. The status quo is now deeply rooted. The decision to move the Polish frontier westwards was a direct consequence of the WW2. The mistake, however, was to expell all the Germans over the Oder-Neisse river line. At the time, there were many of German people who were eager to remain in the now Polish Breslau knowing that the city would be Polish after 1945. Unfortunately, the realities of those times were so much different and the atrocities commited by Hitler's regime were so big that collective guilt was applied imminently to the entire German nation.

One should bear in mind that with the expulsion of almost the entire German population from Lower Silesia, the collective memory about the functioning of the industry, local agriculture, communication and other aspects of life was lost and the economic progress in the region was much slower as compared to other regions of Poland. There has recently appeared the Polish translation of the book being a careful study on this problem based on statistical data.


Precisely. Czechia was part of the HRE and even had its own elector who had the right to vote for a new emperor.

History / Silesia to Czechia [54]


Whereas Czechia could have some legitimate claim to Silesia, Germany cannot. Silesia was conquered on Austria by Prussia in 1742.

UK, Ireland / Do British partners of Polish people in the UK speak their (Polish) language? [17]


This is quite strange from my point of view. I guess you both live in a small town rather than a big city. In Warsaw and its vicinity there are of course communities who are devout Catholics, but I can hardly imagine anyone of such a community here making an issue of the fact of you being Catholic or not. They will typically ask you what country you are from. But Warsaw is specific where religion increasingly tends to be a strictly private matter.

I myself would never ask any foreign person if they are Catholic or if they are of other religion. Personally, I would only be interested in meeting at a party someone who is neo-pagan and decided to worships our old Slavic gods who were mercilessly rooted out by Christianity about 800-1000 years ago. All other religions would have been typical and rather boring.

UK, Ireland / Do British partners of Polish people in the UK speak their (Polish) language? [17]


What do these clowns usually say and whom do they typically complain of?

News / US expert rejects visa waiver for Poles [51]


They laugh at themselves. Both Mr. Mazur and Dirk's parents paid that 10k deposit on entering the US, didn't you know?

Language / Polish words that sound funny? [224]


Maf, if you throw out the coma in front of "czy", the actual google translation would run: "I am asking you if you would be kind". The "Proszę Pana" phrase is completely neglected in this version without the coma.

Google Translate is not bad at all in translations from Polish to English and the more a text is scietific (scientific to some degree, I am not talking of those 'terribly' scietific texts), the better translation you get. Also, the GT is quite well in translating from German to Polish, and very often almost as good as from German to English.

Law / Received confirmation citizenship was approved from Polish Embassy. What's next? [25]


Yes, why?


Never say"forever". You said you came to Poland only once and would never come again, but one month later you said you visited Poland twice in the last year.

Genealogy / Angela Merkel is partially Polish. Her family name could be Kaźmierczak [208]


What do you mean by this!? That we did not conquer almost the entire Europe between 1938 and 1943?

The modern German flag doesn't disturb anyone in Poland today. However, I wonder if it is still the case when the Polish people saw a march in Berlin where hundreds of people would wave German flags just as the Polish people did in Warsaw on the Independence Day last year.