News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

Indeed, which is why people believe that Szydło can cut taxes while increasing welfare measures.

Latest news is that PiS intend to change the current system of ZUS for self employed people into making them pay the full contributions. That means nearly 40% tax for self employed people, as they must cover the employer and employee contributions together. Then there's income tax on top...

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Likewise. Supporting a government that openly refuses to comply with the law is unthinkable.

It's worth pointing out that both decisions of the Constitutional Tribunal have been published now, yet Duda continues to break the law. That's exactly why we will be out on the streets tomorrow.

News / Mass-media in Poland: which are left wing, right wing or centrist? [44]

Centrist. It's accused of being against PiS, but they aren't aligned to any particular party, and it's popular among the older centre-right electorate.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Right, here's the latest list of demonstrations :

Updated list of demonstrations, as of 18:00 on 18/12.

Public demonstrations organised by KOD - Saturday 19 December at 12:00 (local time) unless otherwise mentioned.

In Poland

£ódź : plac Dąbrowskiego
Poznań - plac Wolności
Kraków - Rynek Główny
Bielsko-Biała - at the memorial REKSIA - on the corner of ul. 1 Listopada / Stojałowskiego
Gdańsk - Długi Targ
Bydgoszcz, Stary Rynek
Torun, Rynek Staromiejski
Elbląg - next to the Cathedral in Starówka
Zamość - Rynek Wielki
Częstochowa - plac Daszyńskiego (at 11:45 rather than 12:00)
Legnica - Plac Słowiański - 12:00
Lublin : Plac Litewski 1
Wrocław - Plac Solny
Ełk - Mickiewicza 15
Katowice : Urząd Wojewódzki in Katowice.
Szczecin : Pomnik Trzech Orłów (Monument to the Three Eagles)
Warsaw: ul. Wiejska - at the Sejm.
Białowieża - corner of Waszkiewicza and Parkowa.
Zielona Góra - outside the town hall (Ratusz) in Stary Rynek.
Koszalin - Rynek Staromiejski.
Tarnów - Rynek
Grudziadz - Rynek Główny
Kielce - Urzad Wojewodzki

Abroad

Berlin, Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Germany, Lassenstrasse 19-21
Brussels - the Polish Permanent Representation at the EU - Rue Stevin 139/Stevinstraat 139
London : Embassy of the Republic of Poland in the United Kingdom, 47 Portland Place at 12:00 local time
Toronto - Consulate of the Republic of Poland in Canada - 2603 Lakeshore Blvd West.
Toyko - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Japan, 2-14-5 Mita, Meguro-ku, Toyko 153-0062 at 15:00 local time.
Hamburg - Consulate-General of the Republic of Poland in Germany - Gründgenstrasse 20
Lisbon - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Portugal, Av. Descobertas 2 at 11:00 local time

That's the list that I have so far, although there might be some that I've missed.

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Final time - we welcome anyone and everyone to join us tomorrow in solidarity against the actions of the current government and President. This is a broad, non-partisan, non-party citizen's movement, open to all that wish to join us.

(mods : could you add this to the list, please?)

New York - Consulate General of the Republic of Poland in the United States of America - 233 Madison Ave.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]


You might also like to see this :

coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168007f2c8 - European Convention on Nationality


Looks like "Legal Eagle" can add the Council of Europe to the list of institutions of which he knows nothing.


Fortunately, here in Europe, the right to demonstrate and protest is considered a basic human right.


You do realise that such a law would hurt the ex-USSR Polonia considerably, and they would be very, very unhappy if the government tried to implement such a thing? For that reason, the government will have absolutely no interest in enacting such a thing, not that a one-man petition will actually change anything.


We love Poland. That's why we're taking to the streets tomorrow.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]


Child, this is certainly not the case. The British and Polish authorities couldn't care less if someone is a dual citizen.


Why would anyone in the UK care, given that a huge amount of British people have dual citizenship with another country?


What a strange accusation to make.


A classic internet forum statement if there ever was one.


Quoting a document from 1963 when Poland joined the CoE in 1991 shows that he can add European law to the list of subjects that he knows nothing about.

Must get round to posting the final list of demonstrations tomorrow. Hamburg has joined us :)

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]


I stopped reading right here. Anyone that genuinely knows something about Poland knows that PiS will transfer large sums to the Church in exchange for their support come election time, and that the money will mysteriously vanish.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]


Who are under the control of the Ministry of the Interior, controlled by...PiS - who just replaced the head of the Policja.

Hahaha. Greggy, your propaganda really isn't very good :D

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]


No matter how often you present the PiS version of events, the fact that KOD used a drone to show their crowd while PiS can't produce any evidence says it all.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

I've never heard of drones being banned for "secret reasons" for a random short period of time without any explanation as to why. Perhaps you mean Russia, but that's hardly civilised, although it's clear you're a huge supporter of Putin.

We all know the real reason : KOD used a drone to show a significantly bigger crowd than PiS wanted to show. Therefore, drones must be banned in order to prevent the information getting out. Such crude and pathetic propaganda.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

It's absolutely amazing, isn't it?

For what it's worth, it's been pointed out that a balloon with a gopro will do exactly the same job :D

News / Reactions of Poles to Negative Publicity from the Foreign Press [56]

So why are PiS intending on forcing retired people to give up working and why are PiS intending on punishing them with extra taxes?

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

PiS have imposed possibly the most hilarious piece of censorship ever.


wiadomosci.onet.pl/warszawa/zakaz-lotow-dronami-nad-stolica/wfqpby#.VnQKtMYb_7s.facebook

PiS must be absolutely terrified. They know fine well that the drone flight was used by KOD to illustrate the size of the demonstration last Saturday, and this just confirms it :D

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

It's a direct attack on a NATO institution, nothing more, nothing less.

No amount of lies can change the fact that yet again, PiS are doing things in the middle of the night, just like in the good old PZPR days.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]


thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/233399,Defence-Ministry-enters-NATO-centre-in-the-dead-of-night


So Waszczykowski says that it was a NATO institution.

Looks like you can't even get your story straight, PiS-boy.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]


They have many connections with the PZPR. The leader of the PiS-appointed Human Rights Committee, Piotrowicz, was a PZPR public prosecutor that actively prosecuted dissidents in the PRL.


I thought PiS were supposed to be about "decommunization", not "appointing Jarosław Kaczyński's ex-PZPR friends to positions of power and influence".

News / Reactions of Poles to Negative Publicity from the Foreign Press [56]


Petru isn't a multi-millionaire. Haven't you read his financial statement?

From memory, Nowoczesna was funded initially through a large loan.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

This is about PiS and their connections to the PZPR, not anyone else.

For an alleged party of "decommunization", they seem to be appointing a remarkable amount of PZPR members. PKN Orlen is the latest one.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

It's a NATO institution and shows the utter lack of respect for PiS towards our military allies.

Don't worry, we know that PiS is very much good for Russia. Putin must be laughing his head off watching this - Macierewicz destroying regional cooperation is exactly what he wants.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Another morning, and yet more demonstrations added to the already considerable list.

Grudziadz - Rynek Główny
Kielce - Urzad Wojewodzki

Again - I urge people to get out there. We need to defend our country against night raids, against abusive law breaking and most of all - to defend our Constitution.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

No, they really haven't. This wasn't an intelligence/counter-intelligence operation, this was a straightforward attempt by PiS to gain access to NATO intelligence. Given that PiS are riddled with ex-PZPR members, one really has to wonder what is going on here.

Wonder why you're so supportive of PiS and their pro-Russia activities.

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

This story is absolutely ridiculous, and shows how Macierewicz is acting on behalf of the Russians here. NATO is not going to tolerate such nonsense - and it's pretty simple that this act puts Poland at harm by causing trouble within NATO.


It's absolutely incredible. Do they really think NATO is going to trust Poland with anything now? After all these years of slowly building confidence within NATO, Macierewicz throws it all away for...what exactly?

Law / Family law in Poland - want the Polish children back to the Irish courts [53]

So you're admitting that the Polish court will simply ignore the Irish court ruling.

My opinion stands - the best bet is to get them somehow across the Polish border in any direction and then immediately get in touch with the local police.

News / Reactions of Poles to Negative Publicity from the Foreign Press [56]


Doesn't make much sense to most Germans as well. Even my left wing German friends are utterly confused by everything.


There are complex reasons for that, not least because NATO doesn't necessarily trust Poland.


Makes perfect sense. Poland is no threat to Germany, but Russia certainly is.

Law / Family law in Poland - want the Polish children back to the Irish courts [53]

I think the post above should be taken with a large pinch of salt. Trying to give false hope to a potential client is about the worst thing you can do - we all know that Poland doesn't respect the Hague Convention, as well as applying random and arbitrary judgements even when the Hague Convention clearly applies.

Law / Apostille stamp in Warsaw [26]

Most expensive photocopies of my life!

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]


Show us the aerial footage, Greggy. It's not that difficult, KOD managed it, so why can't you?


You're forgetting that they also revealed their methodology, while the police failed to do so despite repeated requests. It's also notable that the police first said over 50,000, then changed their mind the next day. And the police are controlled by....the Ministry of the Interior.


It's our country. It's our democratic right to demonstrate against a deeply suspicious government that prioritises giving Jarosław Kaczyński's friends top jobs over the ordinary people.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]


Not really. From what I saw, there were a lot of ordinary citizens that had lived through the PZPR once and didn't like PiS appointing endless ex-PZPR functionaries to top positions.


Now now Greggy. We have drone footage showing the size of the KOD demonstration. You, in return, posted footage of some people walking along Nowy Swiat - which means nothing when there's almost identical footage from the KOD demonstration the day before.

It's pretty obvious that the KOD demonstration in Warsaw last weekend was significantly bigger than the PiS one the next day, and it's also pretty obvious that the streets will be ours on Saturday.

And another one!

Tarnów - Rynek

Demonstrations on Saturday will be from West to East, North to South - all in the name of defending Polish democracy against this government and Duda.

Law / Drinking in a parked car. What the Poland's law says? [24]


I *think* yes, but I'm not 100% certain. But as the laws require you to have actually driven the vehicle, it seems that they would struggle for a conviction in this case. I'm guessing that if you were caught on the sauce in a public car park, they'd have you - but if you were clearly parked up for the night somewhere that wasn't public, probably not.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Of course, those that want to see how many ordinary citizens turned out last week in Warsaw would be well advised to check this out :



Anyone that isn't a pro-government supporter can clearly see for themselves that this was a significant demonstration against the government.