UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


I think your wife is correct. I've seen very elaborate graffiti as well as simple scrawls that indicated someone was in a hurry but still showed a skill that had been practiced over quite some time. Someone who had never done graffiti before and with adrenaline rushing could easily have gauged everything wrong and run out of space while they were spraying the lettering across the entrance of POSK. With the obscenity written in English it was obviously done by someone who doesn't know Polish but wanted to intimidate the local community further knowing it would very likely get media attention inside the UK.

No one can seriously believe that a tagger (usually of a very young age group) would also be intimately involved with internal Polish politics a thousand miles away and just so happen to know the initials for an obscure conservative think thank that they felt the need to lash out against. However, a young tagger would very likely have very strong emotions about seeing his or her country changed by immigration and not having the maturity to deal with it other than through angry acts of vandalism. A Polish community center easily accessible to the public was simply an easy target.

Case closed.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


Well, since it is obviously amateur detective hour here on PF I'll use your own methods of investigation (i.e., guesswork) and conclusively show without any need for further proof or explanation other to say that I am completely correct that it is indeed the case that the cursive lettering style is nothing more than the wide variety used by graffiti artists the world over and the letters OMP are nothing more than the graffiti tagger's initials similar to those in the following example:

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


Typical presumptuousness and as usual you made no case.

So, since you are so confident this is "Polish graffiti" and isn't anti-Polish then why would it be written in English if meant to send a message back to Poland in response to internal politics?

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


The only thing that is clear is that you haven't made any connection.

All you have offered up is conjecture based on a wild guess that three letters just so happen to stand for an obscure think tank along with your personal handwriting analysis using a children's learning book.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


Absolutely. British nationalists most certainly know their own history and would definitely revere a racist xenophobe like Mosley especially given his popularity back in the day which lead to him gaining political office.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]

Not at all. I just used your own words to point out correctly that you have made no connection regarding either the suspect(s) or motive.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


Hmm, no. You actually answered it best just before this.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


There are plenty. But in your usual evasive manner you still haven't told us what the connection is. All you offered up was an image of the Polish alphabet which is obviously straight out of a book for children. Certainly an odd item for a childless homosexual male to have but it still doesn't explain who defaced POSK or support your amateur guess that it has everything to do with internal politics back in Poland.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]

Yeah, a Polish cultural center in London a thousand miles away from a conservative think tank in Krakow is going to be a hotbed for Polish internal politics. Is there a war on for membership? LOL.

But since you claim to hold the truth then lay it out for everyone.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]


Who were the ones in this thread who out of the blue and without any evidence whatsoever began blaming Poles for the vandalism done at POSK?

Oh, that's right, it was these British nationals who are deflecting blame away from their nationalist brothers and sisters back home:


&


And your absurd explanation for the graffiti:


Right. Sure.

OK Sherlock, here is a link to London-based POSK's website regarding their history and mission:

posk.org/c5/en/about-us

Here in particular is a copy of POSK's Articles of Association when they were incorporated:

posk.org/c5/files/5314/6175/4931/POSK_Memorandum_and_Articles_of_Association.pdf?lbisphpreq=1

And here is a link to the website for Krakow-based Ośrodek Myśli Politycznej (OMP):

omp.org.pl/onas_en.php

Notice that all links provided are in English for your benefit.

Now, armed with this information, by all means dazzle everyone with your instinctive and effortless crime solving skills and instantly crack this case wide open for everyone and long before the Metropolitan Police ever would.

Go on, everyone on the forum is waiting.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]

^ Right on cue with the victim blaming.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]

@dolnoslask - I'm very glad to hear that and hope you haven't had any problems since. As you know from your own unfortunate experience though it really is a serious issue.

I believe that bigots feel emboldened enough to try to get away with expressing their completely unjustified intolerance towards Poles simply because there is very little to no vocal condemnation of it from the wider public especially those in elected offices.

It's no exaggeration to say that amongst all immigrant groups to any country there isn't a better class of citizen one could ask for than a Pole. And this makes Polonophobia completely unacceptable.

UK, Ireland / London's POSK smeared with anti-Polish grafitti [150]

This latest hostile act of Polonophobia can't be condemned strong enough. I've pointed out this problem before and this outrage shows that it truly out of control on the streets of Britain.

And what's even more troubling is the absolute silence from Britain's political leaders especially in London on this crime.

Look for instance at the numerous twitter feeds of London's mayor (@SadiqKhan; @MayorofLondon; @LDN_gov) as well as the London Assembly (@LondonAssembly).

As of this post you'll find dozens of PC PR posts on gay pride and not a single word let alone one of condemnation regarding this latest example of hate crimes against Poles residing abroad. Not even a single assurance that the Polonophobic bigots behind this hate speech and property damage will be hunted down with the greatest urgency and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

It's quite amusing watching the full-on display of schizophrenia at every level of society in the UK.

Oh well. The decision was made and the decision is final. It's too late for regrets.

The reality is that Britain no longer has a seat at the table in Europe and therefore needs to get up and leave. As in now.

Yet, the news this weekend is plastered with British persons carrying crudely made placards written in childlike scrawl with childish pleas of "I love no borders" and "I am not British I am European." LOL!





Oh and don't forget the futile petitions which have started to have yet another referendum! Yep, keep on voting over and over again expecting to get a different result! And then there is that butch Scottish nationalist (of all things) Sturgeon foolishly thinking she can be as undemocratic as she pleases and block the results of the referendum made by the majority of her fellow British subjects or even more foolishly thinking Scotland can negotiate its own terms with Brussels to stay in!

Mass delusion!

I even came across one article which said that some of the top search terms in Britain AFTER the referendum concluded was "What is the EU?" and "What is Brexit?" LOL!

Source:
washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/?tid=pm_pop_b

One can't help but smile at the site of something so pitiful. But then again it is all self-inflicted.

Britain and particularly Scotland just needs to stop its collective swivel-eyed huffing and puffing and accept that parting ways with Europe is for the best. The British were never European anyway and were never going to be.

The British need to remember that Scotland and England have been in union together for over 300 years. Compare that to them be reluctantly in the EU for just over 40 years. Therefore the British need to remember that they are British first, foremost and always. Britons now more than ever need to join together and not only respect but fully embrace and unconditionally support the decision of the majority will expressed at the polls all around their sceptered isles.

And Britain can still have all the liberal trade and immigration it wants too. Let's not forget that Britain is lock, stock and barrel part of the Commonwealth of Nations with origins going back to its days of empire centuries ago. It can and should push to have it become a political union with tariff free trade. And if British persons demand no borders and immigration and multiculturalism without limits all they need to do is revisit and dust off their Commonwealth Immigration Acts and allow anyone from the Commonwealth to come and go as they please. Indeed, their Commonwealth would bring far more youth and cultural enrichment than Olde Europe ever could.

UK, Ireland / How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here? [474]

The accusations flying that it was the old and uneducated who were the ones who voted to leave the EU is a classic leftist elitist smear used when things don't go their way.

Did Millennials establish the EU? Are they the ones running it today? No.

The results of the referendum are clear and given the severely bad weather on the day it very evident that all age groups were determined to go out and express their convictions at the ballot box.

Thanks to leftist media bias most reports and images are distorted to propagate a myth that only the young and educated wanted to remain.

However, some information is available out there to show the contrary. Take for instance this passionate and articulate viewpoint expressed by a young English student from London on the need to leave the EU:

youtube.com/watch?v=bz5EOYjTLIo

And these smiling, cheerful photos (including one of a well known middle aged celebrity Brexit supporter) leave no doubt that it wasn't just OAPs who wanted out:

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Of course. It is about as exciting as visiting an elderly care home in the dead of winter.


No I talk facts so do try your hardest to follow along since I realize that facts are too difficult and definiently too inconvenient for so-called "progressives" like yourself to accept.


Far from it. Two points. First, I said previously that its economy isn't as robust as its neighbor to the south. Indeed, compare Scotland's GDP of $216 billion USD to the UK as a whole which is at $2.7 trillion USD. So Scotland is a mere 8% of the UK economy. Second, Scotland's economy falls into mainly four sectors: mining, construction, manufacturing and services and the vast majority of jobs are in the last category. So as I stated Scotland has not been an attraction for migrants. Honestly, how many migrants are beating a path to the Scottish highlands in the hopes of landing a job at a fish and chip shop in far flung Thurso?


Not true at all. Go and do a quick search of the numbers. The Polish-born population residing in the UK at the moment is around 800,000. How many of these chose Scotland? Only 55,000. That's less than 7%. And overall immigrant numbers reflect roughly the same with Scotland's share being between 5-6% of the total who have settled in the UK from other parts of the world.

So for you a statistical drop in the ocean of at most 7% settlement rate is proof of Scotland being "massively popular" with immigrants but for sober, educated people it isn't. What this tiny percentage does prove is that Scotland voted in favor to remain in the EU because they haven't felt the full brunt of one of the major planks of the referendum; i.e., uncontrolled immigration.


And here I thought a page had turned and ad hominem attacks were no longer being the go-to face-saving move used by PF members who couldn't defend their positions with facts and civility. Wasn't the early Brexit of your ringleader only a few weeks ago enough of a warning to you and your fellow Brits on the need to comport yourselves properly here on the forum?

Happy Independence Day by the way.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Both have very dire economies. They may want to leave just to free themselves from the yoke of EU regulations. However it is very complicated for them. Firstly both are heavily burdened with debt so being in the EU helps them stay afloat on the international stage. Secondly, unlike the UK, both being in the Eurozone makes any departure of theirs even messier.


Yes but their perspective and experience are very different from those living to the south of their border so it is easy to see why they are more Europhile. Compared to England their economy is not as robust. Therefore Scotland has not been as much as a magnet for migrants as England has. Geographically they are much further north so therefore more rural, colder and darker. Not much of draw on that front either then especially for those young unskilled males from sunnier climes looking for a flash lifestyle in a modern bustling metropolitan region.


The average citizen in EU countries are the ones who have been concerned. But their dismissive and pretty-much unaccountable governments have not been concerned at all. That's why it has been so out of control and for so long.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

I want to wish all British members of PF a very....

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


Oh really? But as of this post you made 14 separate posts about him on this thread alone going back to last year even. I'd say you are overly concerned about someone who very likely would blank you should you ever cross paths.


Nope, only you have been making his identity an issue and desperately arguing hard that he should be left alone simply because of it.

As johnny_reb rightfully pointed out to you:


I fully endorse johnny_reb's admonishment of you. Indeed, this will come as a surprise to you but I confidently speak for myself and most others that when the vast majority of adults in the world see and interact with children (even if they are not their own) they do not sexually objectify them and do not seek to abuse them. Rather, normal people want children to be safe, cared for and happy so that they can grow and develop healthily mentally, emotionally and physically. It's a win-win for children and society. Shocking to you for sure but it is the absolute truth. It is reality and the reason why that in nearly all countries there are laws which criminalize the abuse of children.


As pointed out to you before this thread is not about Polish clergy. And your wording which suggests that pedophilia is rampant among clerics in Poland is simply a canard. Not all men and women who take religious vows are sexual predators. In any event if such abuse does occurs then it is a matter for law enforcement to handle like in the case of the convicted criminal Roman Polanski whom you are repeatedly defending here.


It's been the Americans who want him extradited back to the US to face justice. And because of the extradition treaty which is in place Poland is legally obligated to comply.


The onus is on you to produce proof of the Prosecutor General making this the reason to comply with the extradition even when the request itself makes no mention that personal identity is a reason for putting the convicted criminal Polanski (your idol) on the first flight headed to the US.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


The only fact is that your idol is a convicted criminal who has been on the run for decades and it chaps your hide that someone of his heritage and status should face the music like anyone else would for committing similar offenses. You really do need to understand and accept the reality that US and Polish laws are not based on the talmud.


Because the title of this thread is about the convicted criminal Roman Polanski and he is not a Polish priest. It's not surprising though to see you trying to drive this thread off topic in order to deflect attention away from you kith and kin.


Produce his criminal docket or extradition request that shows he is wanted for being Jewish. Oh, that's right, he was convicted for sex crimes and is now wanted for absconding. Yeah, well, you've repeatedly made it very clear now that you don't believe he should respect and be subject to the law and this based solely because of how he and you label his personal identity.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


Wow! Just wow!

Since when do convicted criminals in any society get to determine how long they will serve a prison sentence and base it upon hearsay?

The law is an established process. If the convict Polanski believed his sentence was too harsh then he could have appealed it. If he believe the judge had acted in bad faith then he could have filed a complaint of judicial misconduct.

He had avenues for redress but calculating chose to flee to places where he knew he couldn't be extradited. This is not the behavior of any innocent person or someone who has been wronged by the legal system.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


You never have so don't bother with the collective "we" to give your remark some semblance of credibility.


You're wrong. Every jurisdiction is different but that's only because some societies prefer not to call a spade a spade. Such watered down language can only help the prosecution's efforts to secure a plea deal by giving the defendant an incentive in thinking that what he or she did wasn't as bad as it actually is. And in this disturbing case your idol pleaded guilty. But he refused to complete his prison term. So he broke the law again. He deserves to be extradited and complete his original sentence and any additional time tacked on. And if he dies in prison then so be it.


Not true and this is because you and your cohorts on here most certainly would.


Not true. And who are they anyway? Just look how long he has evaded justice. Clearly he has done so due to his wealth, his connections, his seriously overrated career, and undeniably the Holocaust hangover which routinely gives the likes of Polanski a free pass in life.

No one wants his blood but instead his sorry criminal butt back in the slammer to finish his sentence.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


The Prosecutor General is absolutely correct. There is no denying the fact that the absconding convict Polanski has not completed his prison sentence. This only shows a double standard and indeed contempt for the law. This can only lead to the public's distrust of the legal system as well as the agreed extradition treaty between Poland and the United States.


There is another legal term for unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. It's called statutory rape. Minors cannot give consent. And this is all the more so in this particular case when including the published account that he plied his underaged victim with alcohol and a quaalude.


What's absolutely bizarre is how the PF apologists for the absconding convict Polanski are the same ones who have started multiple threads and wrote scores of posts criticizing of Roman Catholic clergy (and only Roman Catholic clergy) for committing the same office of "sexual intercourse with minors" (aka statutory rape).

All right for some isn't it? Must be KODpiece logic, eh?

Life / Poland is safe to visit - "Daily Mail" [100]


Looks like yet another carpetbagger with his head buried deep in the sand (or more to the point up his own fundament) when it comes to the reality of Polonophobia.

Here is a very revealing article published on 19 May in Britain's Telegraph newspaper in response to Dagmara's suffering at the hands of British bullies. Not surprisingly it is completely opposite (i.e., it's the truth) to what the usual suspects on PF are trying to sugarcoat and preferably want sweep under a rug.

The shocking reality of racist bullying in British schools


Source: telegraph.co.uk/women/life/the-shocking-reality-of-racist-bullying-in-british-schools

Life / Poland is safe to visit - "Daily Mail" [100]


Yep, right on cue, blame the victim. That's the evasion tactic all bullies, racists and Polonophobes use to avoid responsibility for their despicable behavior. Never mind that a person can only take so much abuse from others. Never mind that she was fine and healthy before moving to Blighty. Never mind that her expressed concern about racism against her was a cry for help. Never mind that like in the case of Daniel Pelka's slow motion abuse they were both met with indifference by wider British society who could have said something or done something to help. But no one cared. No, actually they only thing you lot secretly care about is enjoying the spectacle of seeing someone else who is different from you suffer. And history has record this over and over again.


You can provide quite a peculiar level of detail about a topic which you simultaneously claim doesn't even exist. And why the repeated talk about stairs? Granted you obviously come from a long line of stock who worked downstairs for the people who lived upstairs but you don't need to project this onto others. Just be like your ancestors and know your place.


How on earth are the hurt feelings and misplaced expectations of foreigners rich enough to travel to Poland who feel slighted for not being treated like royalty worse off than Poles living abroad who suffer from Polonophobia and in circumstances so bad that it literally leads to their death?

I'm not surprised at all though that you are putting the regard for foreigners above that of Poles. Polonophobes naturally do. Like I said in another thread some people's interest in Poland has nothing to do with Polish people or Polish culture. They want to secure land and property in Poland and seek prospects for a better life for themselves and their own kind. This is not a 21st century phenomena either. In the 1940's the Germans violently displayed a similar attitude towards Poland and Poles. I recall now you once posted that you are quite fond of Berlin. Now I understand why.


Oh? I didn't know you used to give articles to your mate and fellow carpetbagger Szczecinian to publish in his online rag. I haven't seen him post anything on here in ages. Is he well? I take it that wannabe-Guardian venture of his is now defunct. Kind of like many of your own in your (ahem) "portfolio" career.


The problem is real. Your denials and dismissive behavior won't change this fact but only serve to underscore it.

Life / Poland is safe to visit - "Daily Mail" [100]


A repeated lie is still a lie.


But only a moment ago you claimed:


That sounds like a very serious issue though. Obviously one which you took the time to study yourself. It must be the case then that you don't have the prospects of an academic career so there was never anything there for you to put at risk.

News / Polish girl, 16, found dead at school after complaints of racist bullying [29]


Your repetition of lies won't purchase one iota of truth.


Legitimate sources please. Surely you can come up with at least one. And no, your imagination-fed agitprop doesn't count.

News / Polish girl, 16, found dead at school after complaints of racist bullying [29]


You both hate the attention tragedies like this draw to yourselves. Silence = Death.


My gawd! Since when do victims at the hands of bullies have to come with suggestions for improvement? Only a sociopath could make such a shocking statement. And in the same breath you still show you have your head deeply buried in the sand (or more to point up your fundament) by falsely claiming Polonophobia "doesn't exist."


Provide links then to these so-called "well documented" studies you read. Oh, but you can't, your Freudian slip of stating "nothing more, nothing less" (aka "nothing there at all") gave you away.


Dagmara raised concerns about racism. Your cohort on here admitted that bullying is a problem in your homeland and that she knows personally of two children with Polish names who have been singled out for mistreatment and it is so bad that she is in fear for their lives. Why does your lot have such a unjustifiable problem with Poles? What's wrong with you?


I and the rest of the forum are still waiting for you to stand by your remarks and repeat them rather than being a sudden coward and using the tragedy of this young Polish girl's death to hide behind.


But nothing compares to the level of bullying that is rampant and categorically deadly in your English speaking homeland and its replicated societies (founded on genocide) around the world.


Worked in schools? Past tense uh? Do tell.


You are a non-stop poster on this forum with numerous and lengthy suspensions to your name. You can repeat your lies all day and all night each and every day all year long for yet another decade too. But it still won't change the fact that your ad hominem attacks against me on this very real problem only go to demonstrate your own desperation in not wanting to take any blame for your own Polonophobia and that committed by others when we see examples like this tragedy unfold.

News / Polish girl, 16, found dead at school after complaints of racist bullying [29]


So why are two children with Polish names being singled out? Why are their very lives at risk in a country that loves to boast about being diverse and inclusive?

Would changing their names and denying their heritage buy them some time from being bullied?

News / Polish girl, 16, found dead at school after complaints of racist bullying [29]


How on earth is discussing this tragedy justifying racism? Yet again you make no sense at all.


Polonophobia. If you can't be part of the solution then you need to sit down, shut up, pay sharp attention and start furiously taking notes so you can at the very least get educated about it.


If you are going to troll you need to up your game. The story only just came out and already you can find hits for it on news sites both in English and in Polish. Granted you can't understand the latter but still.


Lies. But since you are so brave with your words then stand by them and make a statement right now attaching Dagmara and her family by name to your insulting dismissal of Polonophobia.


Bullying is only rife in those societies who encourage it either implicitly or explicitly.


You are completely wrong. All you and your cohorts are doing is trying to deflect any blame and responsibility for what happened to Dagmara and her family. You know full well that her mistreatment in your society is a direct reflection on yourselves. You are the ones who don't care about her or what happened to her.

Indeed, I raised this issue in general only a week ago. Only the carpetbaggers came out swinging in defensive denials. Unfortunately that thread was closed. But today it was another PF member who posted the tragic news about what happened to Dagmara on here. This tragedy is another unfortunate but telling example of the problem of Polonophobia. If you can't call it for what it is then as I stated previously to your cohort that makes YOU part of the problem of Polonophobia as well.