"SOLIDARNOŚĆ" is just a word for Polish people?

Hi everyone,

I was wondering that there are lot of Polish ppl who talks about "Solidarnośći " and being together and helping each other. For some they say it and act according to it just from the past experience they have been through and for some its just like sheep following a flock.

Is it the time, need, ppl, thinking ; which has changed or is it some other factor that changed the meaning of this word?

Any nice words, thoughts, explination are welcomed.

I dont think it was just a word. I recall being very young when Solidarnosc inundated Poland. My dad was very happy - you couldn't tear him away from his Solidarnosc t shirt.

I see it as a metaphor for something that Poland did for themselves that really meant something - perhaps akin to the US Bill of Rights?

Yeah, i agree with you that there was time when this word has its meaning but if we look in today context where Poland is then I must say that its disappearing day by day.

Jabwaw maybe it's dimishing, but that's because their isn't a common enemy to unite us. However it will always be there engrained in the Polish culture, if a common enemy arises then so will Solidarnosc.

It is the same sort of thing as the old Russian word 'pjeristrojka' from a couple of years ago.

you mean perestroika? wasnt that late 80s/early 90s? thats not exactly couple of years ago is it.

Someone get the nurse - he's out of bed and playing with the computer again!

We always knew it as Solidarity when it was reported in the UK.

I see.
So in Russia they wanted to get rid of Russians too?
How did that go?

So eceonomic restructuring in the USSR was the same thing as a trade union in Poland?
Maybe I just don't understand these things because with age comes wisdom. Eh Michal?
Unfortunately, so does senility.

It could be used now to mean "The Beginning"

The Russian word is pjerjestroika but the stress falls on the final dipthong so we get peristroika but the spelling is now incorrect.

cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/at-cold-wars-end-us-intelligence-on-the-soviet-union-and-eastern-europe-1989-1991/art-1.html

Looks like those guys at the CIA need some assistance M, care to give them a call?

No. The Russian word is перестройка.
JustysiaS used the commonly accepted English spelling of the word, which is in fact "perestroika".

judging by the support of Polish public to Serbian suveregnity, SOLIDARNOŚĆ isn`t just a word for Poles.

Thanks Poles

This site is great. Choose archive number of "Daily Liberty" to find the history of the creation of the "Solidarity" movement

solidarity.gov.pl

Carol

Had you read what I had wrote then you would have seen that I had written in Latin script the exact same thing. It is pjerjestroika-that is how it is written.

No, it's not. Check any dictionary of the English language, American or British. The spelling has no "j". That would be confusing to English speaking readers as "j" is not pronounced as you would hope (i or y)

You are using home grown transcription suitable for some non-English speakers. The official language of this forum is English. Again, JustysiaS used the correct spelling.

Yes, her simplified transliteration is acceptable but, like Arabic and Japanese, there is no official transliteration so you must either learn the official alphabet or not try at all.

first of all its not my simplified transliteration, but a commonly used version that is in the dictionary/encyclopedia. move on for gods sakes, it's not the end of the world just because you were wrong, accept it and move on.

As someone who has studied Russian,the correct wa to spell it phonetically over here would be pYerYestroYka....but we dont spell things phonetically so its,perestroika zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cant you just say Glasnost ? ;) or sorry,do I mean Glaznoost.....

michal phonetically spelt a russian word in a way a polish person would, he put j's where you put y's. he is a strange and stubborn man isn't he...

Гнилой фашистской нечисти
Загоним пулю в лоб,
Отребью человечества
Сколотим крепкий гроб!

That better M'?

To the rotten fascist scum
We'll drive a bullet into the forehead,
For the rabble of humanity
We'll knock together a solid casket!

WTF are you rambling about? This polish uniform doesn’t suit you.
Anyway it's a text from Svyashchennaya Voyna.

er,yes pirion ,I sort of know what I write,unlike many,many people on here.....
just for you...

My,Pierwsza Brygada,
Strzelecka gromada,
Na stos - rzucilismy
Swoj zycia los -
Na stos,na stos.

there,is that better?


I could care less what you think about it mate,my veteren friends seem to disagree,the ones who I raise money for their memorial and their profile over here but,I justify myself to no one unless they actually served with the WP or AK during the war,did you?No,well,keep quite old bean theres a good chap.

Much much better.

Thank you,and sorry for snapping,I hope I explained why I am wearing what I am in the photograph.

Yes you did.

Thanks,you wouldnt believe how proud I was to have a veteren of the Mokatow district and some former Radoslaw veterens tell me how glad they were that someone in Britain who wasnt even Polish was trying to keep their memory alive and maybe educate a few people along the way.

all the best mate.

i learnt this at school, it's a song right?

the song of the Polish legions J',it was actually your national anthem for a short period of time too :)
(although,whisper this...the tune is an old russian one....)