WWII - who really was the first to help Poland?

A while back i saw a program on one of the history/discovery channels about the Brits in the waffen ss, one old survivor said they spent most of there time getting drunk and trying to shag the local women. Not at all British like :-)))

Brits in the SS? please paste the source, many coutries defected but ive never heard of Brits doing that. First ive ever heard about it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps

Well there will always be a few but:


Is a joke, getting pissed and chasing women was their ambition probably, and hell why not, better than serving the rest of the war in a military prison trying to escape. I may have done the same.

youtube.com/watch?v=uVRPO4T6A2g

here you go WB

OK and what will you say to this time means, it's very interesting

feldgrau.com/poland.html

I saw arguments on this forum about territories whether it was Polish or German and some of you were strictly claiming it to be from the beginning on 100% Polish and if it's so then whatever is written above shows us that Poles volunteered by the German Army. My question is, which one is true, were they Poles within Poland or Germans living on ex German territory and that's why they joined the Wehrmacht?

The article above says they are to be seen Polish.

Youre missing some of the point here, my last post was moved to Random.

Actually mods can you move it back please, ive just signed up for another $55, thats a $110 in.

You repeat this over and over again, BBoy. Unfortunately, Treaty of Versailles can explain the outbreak of WWII and what the Nazis had done during it, but it certainly cannot justify it.

yeah, it happens very often :-)

He knows that.

He does at times give a different impression, though.

Who want's to justify a war? Any war?
Explaining is enough...


WWI was a fight for power between the old bullies and the new one.

After a combined effort the new one was shown his place and due a treaty it was tried to keep him down.

Holding down an industrious, highly industrialized and technological savvy (and miffed) people of 80 millions in the heart of Europe proved to be impossible...

WWII followed, worse than the first one.

Another joint effort was needed again to stop the madness but instead another vindictive "hold the hun down" kind of treaty it was seen by another new "kid" on the block (the only one with real power now) without all the european baggage and centuries old powergames and grievances that the balance in Europe was changed nevertheless.

The old bullies lost their empires, the new bully was being pacified and all more or less pressed into a kind of structure which made any further war kind of senseless....

You were saying?

Haha. Yeh, they barely managed to stay a couple of months. If you want to talk about screwing by Germans, maybe, you'd better explain Polish blue eyes and blond hair prevalence :0)

its crazy discussion. You worry me brate Natane

Germans are anyway Germanized Serbs, Poles, Obodrotes, etc, etc Slavs. Whats wrong with a little bit inter-Slavic mixing?? i know, i know, you would say- but Germanization. Listen, nobody is perfect and after all, those germanized Slavs would return to mother Slavija sooner or later.

on the end, blue eyes and blond hair are something normal and usual among Poles. No need for outside intervention here

I think Germans are mostly slavic who learned to speak German so they believe they are but really aren't.

exactly

Complete so called west pledge to support and invest in Germany after WWI and WWII for only one reason. They consider Germany as their outpost closer to the Slavic world. So called west expect that all Slavs follow example of germanized Slavs

In the eyes of EU, NATO, Islamic league and Israel- Slavs are on menu. That`s one of rare points where they agree among themselves

I tested this theory by observation in Berlin and I found it partially true.Eastern Germans have some slavic mix like slightly polonized features,I would rate this mix to 20%.

I told you...Germany and Poland just should merge!
We would be the coolest country in Europe!

As just about every woman in Berlin between the age of 10 and 60 was raped by Russian
soldiers at the end of WW2, it's hardly surprising.

Well...as the Germans spread their seed in the East for centuries it should make for a good balance!

At least one fourth of the Poles should have german roots actually :)

That's probably quite true. We could put the capitol in Silesia for major awesome. But wait... what language?

English would be the logical choice. But no doubt Poland and Germany would go down the Swiss route.

^The Swiss route? Not familiar with it.

Yeah!:)


Hmmm....why not two languages? There are examples in Europe where that works..


English??? Why english???

we have better helmets than you :)

Not true!

You mean like Belgium?!


Because it is linguistically neutral to those two countries and the international language of business.

But it's a foreign language to both, the Germans AND the Poles.
It's illogical to make a language of business to a lingua franca in such a construct.

German for example is the native language of many Europeans, more than Russian, English or French!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-speaking_Europe

English became the language of business only because of the aftermath of WWII and the US-American influence..such things can change ya know!

The Poles will continue to speak Polish/the Germans will continue to speak German and the officials will have to use both....from bilingual kindergartens onwards etc...:)

The first country that helped Poland was Soviet Russia of course!
Don't you know ? 17th September.
About heroic Soviet tank commander :
youtube.com/watch?v=da1e9Sz8I8k

Soviet Russia helped Poland by signing the pact with Hitler. Is that what you mean?