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DO AMERICANS/CANADIANS TRAVEL TO POLAND????


miranda  
7 Aug 2008 /  #31
Are you an idiot??

you are an idiot of you are assuming that everybody form Poland is Polish.
ukpolska  
8 Aug 2008 /  #32
Polak

Why do you use this term Polak, as it is seen as a derogatory term in the US and being of Polish ancestry I would have thought you would have been a little bit sensitive towards your kind.

You sound like a typical Polak. Always focussing on the negative not the positive.

No I am just being realistic after living here for many years, you on the other hand have been here once with your rose tinted glasses and suddenly are an expert on it all.

If you are going to give an informed opinion you should have some experience in justifying it and a holiday in the country just doesn't cut it.

However, I suspect this will fall on deaf ears as you seem to have total disregard for other people on this forum, who have more experience than yourself in this matter......but hey, you know better, don't you!!
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
8 Aug 2008 /  #33
I suspect this will fall on deaf ears
Christ... what is your problem? I am wrong because I went to Poland as a tourist? So what? And how would you know I've only been there once? Anyways, if you have nothing good to write then don't write anything. See, this is why Americans/Canadians don't travel to Poland. Because of people like you. You've probably never uttered a positive word about your country.
Andrew78  - | 97  
8 Aug 2008 /  #34
Hi Rychlik
Come to Uk and you see most people are arrogant(london)
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
8 Aug 2008 /  #35
shut up rychlik
yes north american cities can be ugly, but that doesn't mean that polish cities can't be either, the two are not mutually exclusive.

people on here were just politely disagreeing with you and giving good reasons for their opinion.
You're more an annoying, obnoxious, know-it-all yank than a Pole. A lot of polish towns are grey and gray- fact. if you've been to sląsk and haven't got over it then your opinion is worthless as far as aesthetics go.

If you can't figure out why this place hasn't become the attraction for north americans that England is then you're analytical abilities are sorely lacking.
ukpolska  
8 Aug 2008 /  #36
You've probably never uttered a positive word about your country.

I suggest you read through my post's then, and do I have to remind you again that I am British. You are not very bright are you!!!
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
8 Aug 2008 /  #37
Ukpolska- you're a dummy. You never once acually stated that you were an ethnic Brit. I merely thought you were an expat Pole living in the UK. I suggest you read your posts a little more carefully.

Foreigner- are you British too? If you are then sorry if I hurt your pride. Actually I'm not you wanker. England's over hyped and over exposed. You guys are losing your country to foreigners :)
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
8 Aug 2008 /  #38
You guys are losing your country to foreigners :)

i agree with that to a certain degree.

England's over hyped and over exposed

care to explain that??
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
8 Aug 2008 /  #39
Ukpolska- you're a dummy. You never once acually stated that you were an ethnic Brit. I merely thought you were an expat Pole living in the UK. I suggest you read your posts a little more carefully

Well, we can all do without calling each other dummy...but, he is in Poland ;) The name says it all.

To the topic, I know many Americans that travel to Poland , but mostly because of family or GF. It's true there aren't many adverts for PL, but sometimes they do have European travel destinations and I've seen Poland on there a few times. We have a travel agency here thats famous for trips to Itally called Perillo tours or sth and this brings a lot of tourism beacuse they set up different travel packages. I think that we need one for Poland that offers the same type of package offering destinations all over and not just the popular cities. MAybe I'll have to start one :)
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
8 Aug 2008 /  #40
in response to your posted assumption i regret to inform you that no i'm not british ya muppet.

England's over hyped and over exposed. You guys are losing your country to foreigners :)

And the u.s. isn't? Besides the point really as most of the 7 (i don't count russia), no wait 6 (italy's out too) leading industrialized nations and most if not all the english speaking nations are being overtaken via immigration. it's simple mathematics really, there's more of them than us. I beleive one can find a rather strong mexican representation in the u.s., no?
Kilkline  1 | 682  
8 Aug 2008 /  #41
You guys are losing your country to foreigners :)

Thats the price you pay for having a country that people actually want to live in.
ukpolska  
8 Aug 2008 /  #42
Ukpolska- you're a dummy..

Jesus, so you really thought I was Polish, so by saying that I never stated where I was born, you can justify it with a pathetic attempt of an answer as above, that really shows your level of intelligence, what are you 10? And as Zgubiony points out it's not really that hard is it!!

It quite simple really, as I said before every country has it's own style of architecture, unfortunately Poland is made up of many styles has influences from many countries, some they wanted and some they didn't. You mentioned rightly that there is some French influence in the country, but you can go on and on, Russian, German, Austrian e.t.c it is all in the country, but everywhere you will see the tired old buildings of communist design.

But you are right, and in holding out a olive branch between us, these buildings are slowly changing for the good :)
espana  17 | 947  
8 Aug 2008 /  #43
ok ukmatepolska!!!:)
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
8 Aug 2008 /  #44
Ukpolska, grow up and don't get so hung up on my words you lazy twat Brit. Your pathetic attempt at mockery just shows how insecure you are of my criticism. Poland will surpass England one day because the English are known to be lazy. They need the Poles :) Just watch. The Brits even admit this fact.
Eurola  4 | 1898  
8 Aug 2008 /  #45
rychlik

Lukasz, is that you?
I know Poland is quite changed and beautiful, but take it easy, dude. It is not the center of the world. Poland needs to be advertised on a large scale before people will believe you. You know, you can sell a piece of sh*t any time you serve it on a silver platter. That's the power of advertising.

I'm not saying that Poland is "sh*t". It wonderful...it's just that nobody knows about her.
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
8 Aug 2008 /  #46
Eurola,
You're right. In the west you can sell any piece of **** as long as people think it's trendy. Maybe the Poles aren't doing enough on their side. Or maybe Americans aren't letting them advertise cuz of politics :)
Eurola  4 | 1898  
8 Aug 2008 /  #47
Americans aren't letting them advertise

Hey, you pay for it - you advertise anything you want on the air. No such thing as not letting you to do it (unless it is cigarettes, drugs or porn) lol. Alcohol is OK.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
9 Aug 2008 /  #48
I would suggest rychlik to stop being so offensive and our British posters to stop being so defensive.
ukpolska  
9 Aug 2008 /  #49
Oh wise words from from the Matyjasz, I for one will heed them ;)
melanieebby  1 | 13  
9 Aug 2008 /  #50
I think many people know more of France and England because of the media. Like American movies filmed in England or France. I can't think of one movie or song mentioning Poland. And our school system is not the greatest, we spend only a short time exploring european countrys. I would love to visit Poland soon and will spread the word as much as possible. (:

Take care all!
ukpolska  
9 Aug 2008 /  #51
I can't think of one movie or song mentioning Poland.

Wow, try watching Katyn, but I know what you mean ;)

I would love to visit Poland soon and will spread the word as much as possible.

And you will be very welcome I'm sure, maybe you can team-up with rychlik and he can show you round Poland.
Just out of interest rychlik, what do you regard as Poland's selling points, what I mean is how would you market Poland to the world?
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
9 Aug 2008 /  #52
To Ukpolska: you get an attractive Polish man and woman dressed in a goral outfit and you advertise the Slavic culture of course. Or you focus on medieval history (Malbork etc) :) I happened to see Bolkow Castle myself in southern Poland. Also I think Krakow sells itself as a great medieval historical city. Warsaw of course is on there as well. Advertise it as chic, cosmopolitain city with a great but also tragic history. The amount of renovations on old historical monuments and buildings has been impressive in the last few years- and it's still ongoing. I love that city. But the amount of hate that city gets from Poles is shocking to me and quite embarassing. The Baltic coast should be advertised as a cheaper alternative to souther Europe. And put a similair spin on our mountain ranges. Every country in Europe is unique. I don't like how a few years ago the Poles used a bloody plumber to entice the French to travel to Poland. Is that what they're seen as in Europe?

On a sidenote, did you know that the Germans hardly know anything about Poland despite being one of our "closest" neighbours? Poles know way more about them then they do about us (like literature and historical heroes).
Wahldo  
13 Aug 2008 /  #53
Americans only know about Prague in this region. Poland should definitely do a little advertising, you don't have to do it like American advertising, over the top and silly. Probably start out in the New Yorker , Atlantic Monthly magazines.. do some spots in LA, Miami. Word of mouth will carry.
OP rychlik  41 | 372  
13 Aug 2008 /  #54
Perfect timing! Check out this article on Poland in Deutsche Welle.

Poland Targets Young Tourists with Image Makeover

dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3557456,00.html
Harro  - | 3  
24 Aug 2008 /  #55
I just got back from Poland. Went to a wedding in Bielawa right outside of Wroclaw. My friends sister got married to a Polish guy that lives in Canada. So it was me the American, along with my Canadian delegation that was there partying it up with the locals. Looking to go back again this winter just to experience more. Can't wait! <3 Poland!! -_-
brendamayer  - | 1  
25 Aug 2008 /  #56
I'd really like to travel to Poland one day and hope to meet relatives when I do eventually make it there. My maiden name is Szuszczewicz and I've been told that all of us with that name are related somehow. I've only been able to learn a little about Poland online since I just haven't seen tourism to Poland promoted here in the US. I don't speak the language, so that makes it difficult, too.

A friend of mine toured Poland by bicycle years ago and said it's a lovely country full of the nicest people. What she found lovely about it though, is that she's a socialist and said she found socialism to be working very well there and that the people loved it. I thought that was a little odd when she told me because some recent Polish immigrants, who lived there at that time, told me it was awful then.

Maybe it just depends on your perspective.

I just found this forum tonight.
beckyinjozefow  1 | 27  
6 Sep 2008 /  #57
What she found lovely about it though, is that she's a socialist and said she found socialism to be working very well there

I would be interested to know what she means.

As to the beautiful parts of Poland. There are many interesting places to visit. There are the famous places like the Salt Mine near Krakow, Malbork near the Baltic Sea, The Old town of Krakow, the small town centers of most of the old smaller cities. But, I personally don't like to visit a place for the buildings...I'd rather see the scenery and/or the people. When we moved to Warsaw in 1994, it was UGLY! It has changed incredibly since that time. They have painted many of the old grey communist block apt. buildings interesting colors and added interesting looking malls and skyscrapers.

I personally think that the architecture of the old cities like Krakow is interesting, but the greyness is daunting and I don't like the overriding feeling of real black soot/dirt that the buildings seems to collect.

I've only been to London to the airports, Heathrow and Gatwick and the ride by bus inbetween, so I am by no means an expert, but the beauty of England is legendary. The beauty in Poland exists, but is a whole lot less exploited.

As to being a whole lot cheaper for the average tourist...I'm not sure that is true anymore. I find it impossible to find a cheap hotel that is decent and meals out are quite expensive unless you want a kiosk or a kebab. Even then, we found kebabs in Germany for 1 Euro a couple years ago...here they are 8-10 zl. Prices for Americans have skyrocketed here in Poland because of the devaluation of the dollar. Because of that, travelling has become exponentially more expensive. McDonalds is more expensive here than the USA now for us, for less food.

I live in the boring flatlands of the Warsaw area, but think the southern part of Poland and the western part of Poland, esp. the area west of Wroclaw to be beautiful. Since my home in the US is FL, by comparison, the lake region, while maybe considered beautiful by many, isn't that really spectacular to me. I personally prefer mountains. Seas are pretty, but it seems to be difficult to get to the Baltic just to get a look.

I do love the fields of wild lupine, and the poppies that are in the area that you can see as you drive, though.

Things I'd like to see again...there's a very interesting rocky section between here and Krakow that we discovered by accident one day. I'd love to go back there.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojc%C3%B3w_National_Park

I wish the national parks had better visitor centers and more to see in them besides going for walks. We'd learn so much more if there was more information there. One summer we couldn't go anywhere for a real vacation, so we took every Tuesday out and visited things that were a few hours away. We always were home at night, so we ate out after checking out the interesting site. We have a book called "The Most Beautiful Places in Poland". They have it in English and Polish.

In defense of the person who said that

Americans don't travel...

You really didn't mean that, right? You meant, that they don't travel internationally, esp. off the north American continent. When you consider how large the continental USA is, and how many Americans have been to neighboring states, it is impossible to say with truth that Americans don't travel. The average country in Europe is about equivalent to the states in the USA...esp. the western ones.

I'd say that MOST Americans have visited another state other than the one they were born in, so I'd say that "most Americans DO travel, but that they may not travel, yes, probably do NOT travel internationally." Your 80% "no passport" is interesting. I think that is changing due to the climate in the USA about needing a passport if you go to Canada.

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