Why aren’t Poles immigrating to Canada? Because – honestly – what’s the point? 1. Winters are hard 2. Taxes are way too high; one of the highest in the world 3. “Free” health care system sucks 4. Government is controlling almost every aspect of your life (instead of what it should be controlling) and always knows better than you what you need to be happy
5. Your foreign university credentials won’t be recognized and you will end up working as a nanny or cab driver 6. Political correctness is a king 7. Lack of national identity (hating Americans and feeling superior in comparison is all they have) 8. If you don’t know French - don’t bother coming to Quebec 9. Black flies: they are much worst than mosquitoes Cheers!
Hi Franek, how are you??? I agree with you entirely. I have lived in the UK for 4 years, it gave me loads of lifetime experience, but I have to say that only when I went to visit Canada did I realize that this is the place I feel the happiest. The weather is great, there is plenty to see, people are amazing and peaceful. I am sure that if the immigration process to Canada was easier many Poles would choose Canada instead of the UK.
The Bristish Pund is going down the drains and many Poles are going back to Poland. I myself am starting Canadian immigration process around January, coz I know it has a lot more to offer than both The UK and the US.
Ziuta, have you wver been to Canada??? You seem to be very negative? I have spent there 2 months and I experienced both the harsh winter and humid summer. The govt is not controlling you as much as the UK govt or even American, Canada seems to have its own identity, its own movies and programmes. Whereas in the UK everyone and everything seem to be American. Americans are regarded as Gods...Not everyone speaks French I friends who are immigrants working for Can govt and they do not know French at all, not many people do in Ontario. If you cannot speak French, move to any other province.
Although I have nothing but good things to say about my travels to the UK - London, along with Paris, is the most beautiful city I've seen in my life - hands down, Canada would be the better place to live for a Pole.
The reason is simple, life is easier in Canada. The cost of living in considerably lower. Prices of nearly all goods are more expensive in Europe than they are in North America. The Macbook I'm typing this on which I recently purchased cost me $400CDN less in Canada than it would have in Germany. Cost of housing is much cheaper. Taxes are actually less if you think about it. Ontario has a 13% tax on goods. Poland's VAT is 22%, Germany's is 19%, I'm not sure about the UK, but I'm sure it's in that range. From living in Canada and Europe, life in Europe is a lot tougher for the average middle class citizen, I think most people would agree with me on that. Gasoline is another thing I forgot about. Gasoline in Europe is over twice the price of what it is in Canada. Cars are cheaper in Canada. I hope I've got my point across.
Foreigner, I don't know how you can say that the entire country has 6 months of hard snow and gets -30 degrees celsius weather. That's simple not true. Vancouver experiences mild winters, and in the last 5-10 years, Toronto's winters have been becoming much more milder due to global warming.
I'm not saying Canada is the best country in the world, I think it's definitely one of the best and would give most immigrants an easier life than that of what they're offered in Europe. Ethnic assimilation is another factor. It doesn't matter if you're a foreigner in any large Canadian city, or any city for that matter, because Canada is made up of foreigners! No one is going to judge you based on where you came from.
So there are my two cents. Feel free to agree or disagree.
The thing about Canada is that it's so flippin' big. If you can speak French, can you understand Quebecois? If you can speak English, can you understand a Newfoundlander (sounds a bit like Cornish English)? Any Poles learning to speak Cree or Inuktitut? So if you do choose Canada, you then have to decide which bit of Canada.
Foreigner, I don't know how you can say that the entire country has 6 months of hard snow and gets -30 degrees celsius weather. That's simple not true. Vancouver experiences mild winters, and in the last 5-10 years, Toronto's winters have been becoming much more milder due to global warming.
I think you know what i meant. Of course Vancouver and the South Pacific coast don't get much snow. Let's just say that there's a reason people say canadian winters are rough.
Having grown up there, and having worked with canadians from across the country, i'm more than entitled to my opinion.
But it really depends on what you like. I think a lot of poles would find it difficult to adjust to life in a canadian city or small town (like there are big ones) after living in Poland. It can be an "emptiness" to some and a "solace" to others.
I miss it, but not the politically correct bs that permeates from every orifice of life there.
Anyone coming from canada this christmas? I'm going to visit so i wanna buy some dollars and avoid the commission at a kantor. anyone? anyone?
As we have seen with the UK, they have been more of a drain on the economy, social service and a nuisance than any real benefit.
Yes, doing all the menial jobs that Chavs are too good for. They are the real reason Chavs are so lazy. If they hadn't come to the UK, the Chavs would have gotten the idea that they maybe should get a job and contribute to society by now.
You do not want these scavengers to come to Canada, they will probably bleed your country dry too!
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As we have seen with the UK, they have been more of a drain on the economy, social service and a nuisance than any real benefit.
Rubbish ! Lets see all the statistics to back this up. If you haven't got any then it is just your views huh !
It is a big mistake!
Of course it is . Go and have another beer or two <or fifty> lol........
These couch potatoes slurping beer in front of the TV/Computer shouting out their outrageous comments. Mad world LOL. Wonder if all the beer and fish and chips addles their brains ?
*Sometimes I wonder how many aliases some posters have*
It seems that Winnipeg (I was passing through and met up with an old friend) residents (well the ones i spoke with) are a bit annoyed at the number of eastern european immigrants of late- their sentiments, not mine. It seems, again their sentiments, not mine, that they bring more problems than they contribute. I don't know if it's a Polish thing or a Ukranian thing, to the average Canuck, there really isn't a difference. Anyway why the hell anyone would immigrate to winnipeg is a mystery to me.
Because – honestly – what’s the point? 1. Winters are hard 2. Taxes are way too high; one of the highest in the world 3. “Free” health care system sucks 4. Government is controlling almost every aspect of your life (instead of what it should be controlling) and always knows better than you what you need to be happy 5. Your foreign university credentials won’t be recognized and you will end up working as a nanny or cab driver 6. Political correctness is a king 7. Lack of national identity (hating Americans and feeling superior in comparison is all they have)
This is pretty good. I know some Poles in the Toronto area, but no, Poles won't be going to Canada. There is 0 incentive. The incentive isn't available to come to the U.S. either (anymore at least).
England & Germany are the two countries where Poles have been, and will be going, for quite some time. No paperwork (visas) necessary. Plenty of contacts in those countries. The currency translation works in your favor, and the wage rate is good. You stick with your kind - Poles don't like to assimilate.
Poles are some of the most practical people in society - that's the perspective that they are looking at when they leave Poland for another country. And for most, it's a temporary leave.
Ziuta: Because – honestly – what’s the point? 1. Winters are hard 2. Taxes are way too high; one of the highest in the world 3. “Free” health care system sucks 4. Government is controlling almost every aspect of your life (instead of what it should be controlling) and always knows better than you what you need to be happy 5. Your foreign university credentials won’t be recognized and you will end up working as a nanny or cab driver 6. Political correctness is a king 7. Lack of national identity (hating Americans and feeling superior in comparison is all they have)
1. In Vancouver, it is not that cold. However, it tends to rain there more than other parts of the country. 2. This depends on what you are going to be doing in Canada. We certaily have some high taxes, but we also have some lower taxes than other countries (ie. corporate tax- which would be relevant if you wanted to start a business here). Plus, you need to consider what you are getting in return for the taxes. Americans might pay less taxes, but they often pay very high premiums for access to heath care. In total, some might pay more on average for access to the same kinds of services.
4. Well actually you probably will have more social freedoms here than many other Western countries (regarding gay marriage, abortion). Of course, this all depends on what you think NEEDS to be controlled.
and as much as a laughed at zuita's post it is pretty true, lol....
Thank you. It happened to be my post from the time I was not yet PF member.
Of course, this all depends on what you think NEEDS to be controlled.
I was thinking about gov over regulating TV content and dictating what are you allowed and not allowed to watch for example but not regulating enough whole financial sector (letting you invest in mutual funds and be ripped off without any consequences to anybody)
Halle Berry, Niaomi Campbell, Beyonce, Angela Bassett, Tyra Banks, Alex from the Ex - Factor. All stunning black women. You are an idiot whoever you are and I doubt that any black women would even look at you once.
hmmmmm I live in Canada GTA (Greater Toronto Area) for 17 years. Its not all peaczy here at all. Winter is ok, not too bad. Summer sucks big time with the humidyty making +30 feel like +40. Taxes are brutal: less you make, more taxes you pay. Only rich get breaks and get away with anything. plus crapload of freeloaders on all kinds of goverment help programs need to be payed from my taxes too.
Free health care, buhahaha, what a laugh. you go to hospital with a major cut on your arm, you eather bleed out or it will heal itself before you get help.
Ziuta put it spot on about goverment. I will just add that they(politicians) just get in, steall as much as they can, and then gladly retire with even more money from gov to keep quiet about how and how much they stole.
5,6,7 like Ziuta, and the Canadian Superiority over all others is just unbeliveble, after all, it takes like few of us, Poles to screw in the lightbulb, so they must be supreme and thats it.
Dumb bums never heard about revolving ladders we used in Poland. Not our fault Canada does not have those. Piotras6 from Brampton
guys the only reason polish people go to the uk is cause its cheaper to work there and fly back and bring money back home cause the pound is high but if they came to canada it wouldnt be worth flying back to poland when the damn plane ticket costs around 2000 each way unless the whole family moves here which is veyer costly
It's good that Poles aren't coming here any more. At least for men it's good. I don't think any man immigrating to Canada understands the family law we have here. When I tell my friends in Poland that a wife can leave her husband for no reason at all and that husband must pay her spousal support, they don't believe me. Then I tell them that spousal support is much more than child support... :) None of my friends is asking me for help in getting here... :)
