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Polish Thoughts on Britain and the British


Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
23 Sep 2007 /  #121
Brits have little or no knowledge of history other than their own or of languages.

Dear james123, I have no problem with Brits don't knowing the history of Poland. Ask any average Pole what does he know about Belarus for example and I can assure you than accept of the name the capitol city, £ukaszenko or the location of the country you wont hear much from him. Ignorance isn't a British phenomenon. But what I do have problem with is people that talk about things that they surely don't have an idea of.

PS: As for the level of education problem, I do hear from young parents that something similar is starting to happen here as well. Maybe it's an international problem caused by our technological development? Who knows.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
23 Sep 2007 /  #122
Since we are all talking to each other in English!!

Because you idiots usually don't know any other language.
osiol  55 | 3921  
23 Sep 2007 /  #123
C'est vrai!
Firestorm  6 | 399  
23 Sep 2007 /  #124
Because you idiots usually don't know any other language.

Privet..
Kak u vas dela. Kak tvoyo zdorovie?
Govorite li vy po angliyski?
Da..? zaebis'!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
23 Sep 2007 /  #125
OK. I'm sorry. Should be idiot instead of idiots.
Catherine1011  1 | 5  
24 Sep 2007 /  #126
I've heard and read besides Polish immigrants also other Eastern European immigrants like Lithuanian are kind of full of themselves about their looks and what they don't have that the U.K has like fastfood McDonalds which is good imo. They say that they are too beautiful for British, Irish schools. Which made me laugh. Because you get pretty, plain, average, ugly, and beautiful people in every country.
Daisy  3 | 1211  
24 Sep 2007 /  #127
Because you get pretty, plain, average, ugly, and beautiful people in every country.

This is true

which is why

I've heard and read besides Polish immigrants also other Eastern European immigrants like Lithuanian are kind of full of themselves about their looks

this is a generalisation

My cousin's first husband was Lithuanian, he was quiet, modest, considerate and totally hen pecked and nagged by my cousin.

People are people and we're all different, thank God.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
24 Sep 2007 /  #128
I accept the chalenge. :)

geez matty - if you took that patriotic vitriol with anything other than a pinch of salt then theres not a lot i can say...

and if think you will probably find it was directed at our friends across the pond ;-)
ogorek  - | 165  
26 Sep 2007 /  #129
F-ck me not that again!!.......Who does all that??.......about 1% of the population!!

Never in the field of drunken stuper
have so few - caused so much grief - to so many!!!!!!

polish intelligence that was responsible inter alia for sending information’s as well as pieces of V2 to England

Hey ajgraham also don't forget that it was the Poles that broke the Enigma
code in the 30's and gave it to England just before the war. The Brits just kept up with the German upgrades. The Enigma machine contributed to the success over 70% of allied operations.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
26 Sep 2007 /  #130
What do I think about UK, historicaly we had neutral relationship, sometimes we were enemies (because of our good realtionship with France) we were alied durring WWII.

So all in all we had better friends as well as enemies

According to present, I m realy glad you opened for our citizens your country, I m surprised that after coming about 0.5-1 mln of our citizens there are no tensions or they are not so common.

I have been to London myself, only for 4 days, but London was realy nice. I noticed that Paris is more about culture and London is more about money (as to your competition with France) I really enjoyed London ;))) And all in all you opened your country for Poles, and France is still partly closed ...

I think that UK have made good investition by this move, your reputation in my country increased, and I think you will use it for long time. What means English products are more popular, more people study your history, and your point of view in different cases is better undestood ...

I have trade contact with UK and I find british people as a good business partners.
ogorek  - | 165  
26 Sep 2007 /  #131
Since we are all talking to each other in English!!....Well....we won't say any more about that!!...

Ok lets talk about empires (remember both no longer exist)
The Polish empire (Kingdom actually) was created through marriage, common relations, religious understanding, freedom of speech. The Polish Kingdom contributed to Europe - it saved Europe from Ghengis Khan in 1259 and 1287. The Poles stopped the Mongols by being a buffer to Western Europe. Thousands died. The kingdom saved Europe from the the Tutonic Knights (Nazis of the time) by defeating them in the battle of Grunwald 1410. The Brits were fighting with the Germans then, but learned a lesson there. The Kingdom saved Europe in 1683 when it defeated the Ottoman Empire (Turks) who had reached Vienna. The Poles saved Europe in 1920 when it defeated the Russian army when it tried to invade Poland.

The Poles were defeated in 1939 BECAUSE THEY WERE FACKED IN THE ARS!!!

The British empire was built on slavery, misery, invasion, murder. The English language was imposed onto the world which is why we all speak English. Maybe we should'nt say more than that...
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
26 Sep 2007 /  #132
The British empire was built on slavery, misery, invasion, murder. The English language was imposed onto the world which is why we all speak English. Maybe we should'nt say more than that...

better than being facked in the ars, no?
ogorek  - | 165  
26 Sep 2007 /  #133
Quoting: ogorek
The British empire was built on slavery, misery, invasion, murder. The English language was imposed onto the world which is why we all speak English. Maybe we should'nt say more than that...

"All is fair in Love and War" is what you said remember? again I tell you - no it's not.
And I tried to explain to you - that is a vile, immoral, cynical attitude to have without humility. It is not a mature response.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
26 Sep 2007 /  #134
"All is fair in Love and War" is what you said remember? again I tell you - no it's not.

adopting this attitude is likely to lead to an ars facking - regrettable, perhaps, but true
ogorek  - | 165  
26 Sep 2007 /  #135
you have to give me more than that for me to reply
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
26 Sep 2007 /  #136
i wasnt expecting a reply ogorek - we obviously disagree so lets leave it at that
ogorek  - | 165  
26 Sep 2007 /  #137
it's a forum - expect replies. I ran out of steam darn it.
ajgraham  - | 121  
28 Sep 2007 /  #138
Never in the field of drunken stuper
have so few - caused so much grief - to so many!!!!!!

Have you ever seen any of these people Ogorek?......or are you just quoting newspaper headlines?

Hey ajgraham also don't forget that it was the Poles that broke the Enigma
code in the 30's and gave it to England just before the war. The Brits just kept up with the German upgrades. The Enigma machine contributed to the success over 70% of allied operations.

Yes you did play apart.......the problem was that.... The Germans added an extra rotor to the machine on the very first day they invaded Poland, which obviously f***ed everything up for the Allies.......To cut a very long and complicated story short which you obviously know F***all about Ogorek.....It wasn't until the Royal Navy had captured the Binary tables from one of the U'Boats in the Atlantic where they able to start reading the codes again......and just for the record......Britain did a great deal more than just keep up with "Upgrades" We invented the Computers which enabled the messages to be read in "real time" and "up to date"....Without them everything else would have been useless......So can i stick two fingers up at you??......but i always give credit where credit is due..... Poland did play an important part!

Ok lets talk about empires (remember both no longer exist)

No not quite Ogorek....Britain is still head of the Commonwealth (they are the former Empire nations).

Ok lets talk about empires (remember both no longer exist)
The Polish empire (Kingdom actually) was created through marriage, common relations, religious understanding, freedom of speech. The Polish Kingdom contributed to Europe - it saved Europe from Ghengis Khan in 1259 and 1287. The Poles stopped the Mongols by being a buffer to Western Europe. Thousands died. The kingdom saved Europe from the the Tutonic Knights (Nazis of the time) by defeating them in the battle of Grunwald 1410. The Brits were fighting with the Germans then, but learned a lesson there. The Kingdom saved Europe in 1683 when it defeated the Ottoman Empire (Turks) who had reached Vienna. The Poles saved Europe in 1920 when it defeated the Russian army when it tried to invade Poland.
The Poles were defeated in 1939 BECAUSE THEY WERE FACKED IN THE ARS!!!

and if you hadn't of done all this.....who is to say the Germans or the French or someone else wouldn't have?......It was the Brits with Gen Montgomery who Planned the D-Day landings.....does that mean we are responsible for saving western Civilization?.......I think most people reading the above will just laugh!

The British empire was built on slavery, misery, invasion, murder. The English language was imposed onto the world which is why we all speak English. Maybe we should'nt say more than that...

It was actually built on trading agreements that still exist to this day.....and the export of the language and laws etc was apart of it......Thats why we are the worlds 5th Economy and Poland is nowhere to be seen!.......All the stuff about wars and slavery etc was just a side show!
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #139
It was actually built on trading agreements that still exist to this day.....and the export of the language and laws etc was apart of it......Thats why we are the worlds 5th Economy and Poland is nowhere to be seen!.......All the stuff about wars and slavery etc was just a side

You have plundered many nations, divided many lands and terrorized people on every continent of this world numerous times over!,

What are you a Black and Tan boy!

If a police barracks is burned or if the barracks already occupied is not suitable, then the best house in the locality is to be commandeered, the occupants thrown into the gutter. Let them die there – the more the merrier. Should the order ("Hands Up") not be immediately obeyed, shoot and shoot with effect. If the persons approaching (a patrol) carry their hands in their pockets, or are in any way suspicious-looking, shoot them down. You may make mistakes occasionally and innocent persons may be shot, but that cannot be helped, and you are bound to get the right parties some time. The more you shoot, the better I will like you, and I assure you no policeman will get into trouble for shooting any man."

--Lt. Col. Smyth, June 1920[7]
ajgraham  - | 121  
28 Sep 2007 /  #140
You have plundered many nations, divided many lands and terrorized people on every continent of this world numerous times over!,

......Ok James....could you name afew????

What are you a Black and Tan boy!

I think you will find they were Irishmen!

If a police barracks is burned or if the barracks already occupied is not suitable, then the best house in the locality is to be commandeered, the occupants thrown into the gutter. Let them die there – the more the merrier. Should the order ("Hands Up") not be immediately obeyed, shoot and shoot with effect. If the persons approaching (a patrol) carry their hands in their pockets, or are in any way suspicious-looking, shoot them down. You may make mistakes occasionally and innocent persons may be shot, but that cannot be helped, and you are bound to get the right parties some time. The more you shoot, the better I will like you, and I assure you no policeman will get into trouble for shooting any man."

--Lt. Col. Smyth, June 1920[7]

Yes but the Irish weren't exactly 'Shrinking Violets' themselves were they???
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #141
Let's do them one by one starting with Ireland!
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #143
Yes but the Irish weren't exactly 'Shrinking Violets' themselves were they???

The same as the communists were Polish!
ajgraham  - | 121  
28 Sep 2007 /  #144
wtg aj

Ok what does that mean?

Moving on to

"I am convinced that the time has come for the British and the Indians to be reconciled to complete separation from each other. Complete and immediate orderly withdrawal of the British from India [...] will at once put the Allied cause on a completely moral basis. [...] I ask every Briton to support me in my appeal to the British at this hour to retire from every Asiatic and African possession. ... I ask for a bloodless end of an unnatural domination and for a new era. Leave India to God and if that be too much, leave her to anarchy, necessity for withdrawal lies in its being immediate."

Yes but I would imagine these incidents took place decades apart?....Is it fair to squash every single wrong doing that took place over centuries into a single sentence?
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #145
I think you will find they were Irishmen!

The same as the communists were Polish!

Yes but the Irish weren't exactly 'Shrinking Violets' themselves were they???

And you are right on at least the point concerning the " Shrinking Voilets"
ajgraham  - | 121  
28 Sep 2007 /  #146
[quote=christoner] wtg aj

I take that back........ofcourse i know what it means!!

I take it your an Irishman then James?
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #147
Yes but I would imagine these incidents took place decades apart?....Is it fair to squash every single wrong doing that took place over centuries into a single sentence?

We haven't even began to cover one century! Both of these incidents took within a twenty year or so period.

Don't get me wrong I love England, regardless of all her wrong deeds in the past she is still one the greatest countries in the world!

I take it your an Irishman then James?

Polish in fact! History being one of my passions! And you?

Jestem Polakiem, mieszkam i pracuję w Wielkiej Brytanii.
ajgraham  - | 121  
28 Sep 2007 /  #148
Jestem Polakiem, mieszkam i pracuję w Wielkiej Brytanii.

So what does that mean then?..........Nothing abusive i hope?
James123  
28 Sep 2007 /  #149
Just that I am Polish and live and work in the UK! As I mentioned a great country!
AvJoeUK  
28 Sep 2007 /  #150
Thats the spirit James :)

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