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Scotland encouraging immigration.


RevokeNice 15 | 1,854  
28 Jul 2009 /  #61
Matowy

Foreigners can always be repatriated, times are changing, as are peoples opinion on them. I will not be run out of my capital city, where I was born and bred, by third worlders and slavs. Aint going to happen.

Times are changing alright, and Ireland is deporting a lot of asylum scammers and non EU citizens, for a change. It is virtually impossible for Non EU citizens to immigrate here now due to recent legislation.

As you said, times are changing, the foreigners are guests, not citizens of the Irish nation. They have no right to stay here for infinity. Repatriate, repatriate, repatriate.
ragtime27 1 | 146  
28 Jul 2009 /  #62
Rev
what you gonna do about EU members?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854  
28 Jul 2009 /  #63
ragtime27

I would issue a work permit system ala Germany and Austria for the new accession states. There are also perfectly legal ways of encouraging EU foreigners home, which myself and my fellow compatriots, partake in.

Be boycotting the foreigner.
ragtime27 1 | 146  
28 Jul 2009 /  #64
work permit sounds good,will it be for new comers or members already there?

work permits tend to be used as temporary solution eventually Eu rules will force country to scrap it after a while,it happened in UK with Spanish and the Portuguese.

then what afterward,the problem for Ireland or UK have to work around EU rules unless they opt out from EU(it's a long shot)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854  
28 Jul 2009 /  #65
ragtime27

If they do not have a job, cut welfare entilements and give them a one way ticket home. Those who work here should be given a work permit. Any new arrivals must get a work permit.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
28 Jul 2009 /  #66
National socialists maybe. Beware of labels, though. Wise old Shawny, or was it RN?, said that the SNP are a bunch of nationalists but not in the negative sense of the word.
Robert A 1 | 102  
28 Jul 2009 /  #67
Eu rules will force country to scrap it after a while,it happened in UK

Incorrect. Accession State workers are still required to register for work . . . for their first 12 months here.

Please see here: ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/eea/wrs/whomustregister/
Matowy - | 294  
28 Jul 2009 /  #68
As you said, times are changing, the foreigners are guests, not citizens of the Irish nation. They have no right to stay here for infinity.

Incorrect. They will gain citizenship at some point, or they'll marry someone with citizenship, or their children will have citizenship. After that, they can stay indefinitely, which they probably will.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854  
28 Jul 2009 /  #69
Matowy

Citizenship can be revoked from foreigners. The tide is turning against the foreigners, nationalism is on the rise. The madness of mass immigration will come to an abrupt end.

Back to the land of goulash with the Poles.

Ireland for the Irish!
kerbcrawler - | 12  
28 Jul 2009 /  #70
And British for the British.

Poland is a charity case.
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
28 Jul 2009 /  #71
Back to the land of goulash with the Poles.

Isn't that Hungary?
frd 7 | 1,399  
28 Jul 2009 /  #72
I'll be moving to Scotland as software developer soon, hope you'll greet me with open arms kerbcrawler.
Matowy - | 294  
28 Jul 2009 /  #73
Citizenship can be revoked from foreigners. The tide is turning against the foreigners, nationalism is on the rise. The madness of mass immigration will come to an abrupt end.

Your "us and them" mentality is so cute :D It'll be a shame for it to disappear as you mature into adulthood. Playing silly games of cowboys and indians gets quite tedious as you get older. I suggest taking up a competitive video game, such as Halo.

They are not Irish they are second world slavs. Hence, us and them.

That's not at all what I meant, and you know it.
tornado2007 11 | 2,270  
28 Jul 2009 /  #74
Why is everybody so anti immigration, i can understand if people were coming out saying 'they are too many immigrants and we need to control it' however saying things like 'Ireland for the Irish' 'Britain for the British' & 'Poland for the Poles' is so short sighted and out dated its unbelievable. If you want your own little world then why don't you take a tent and pitch it in the middle of the forrest and live on your own.

I'm not in anyway saying that people who say this are 'racists' because they probably are not, they just lack the 'adaptiveness' needed to move on with the ever changing world. I also believe people who talk like this lack any understand of other cultures, lifestyles and people, in my opinion this is just 'ignorance'.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
28 Jul 2009 /  #75
So, to get back on topic,,,,Scotland needs migrants to fuel an economic recovery.

Demographics suggest that with an ageing population, Scotland needs to attract workers to earn the revenue which will fund the social infrastructure.

Interesting that there is a thread about Polands shrinking population too as Polish migrants were credited with fuelling a boost in the Scottish birth rate ( first time in around 150 yrs ).

It could be deduced that the increase in the birth rate suggests an....ahem.... willingness to accept migrants.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437  
28 Jul 2009 /  #76
Demographics suggest that with an ageing population, Scotland needs to attract workers to earn the revenue which will fund the social infrastructure.

that has been done before in other countries and there are mixed feeling about this kind of solution. I am neither against it, nor for it since it is a quick way of solving problems related to decreasing and aging population. It is a short term solution if not carried with a plan.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
28 Jul 2009 /  #77
Planning is essential. This is a long standing problem to which there will be no quick fix.

Migration will be strictly controlled.

Scotland is mostly a rural country and the Govt is sensitive to the impact migration can have in rural areas with a rich culture.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437  
28 Jul 2009 /  #78
Migration will be strictly controlled.

so what is the plan?

with a rich culture.

what do you mean by that?
Torq  
28 Jul 2009 /  #79
rural areas with a rich culture.

what do you mean by that?


Probably rural areas around Aberdeen and their rich cultural relationships
with their sheep ;)
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
28 Jul 2009 /  #80
sheep ;)

We dont call them sheep round here - we call them entertainment centres
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
28 Jul 2009 /  #81
Careful, lad, careful ;)
Torq  
28 Jul 2009 /  #82
We dont call them sheep round here - we call them entertainment centres

LOL

I see that PC language mania is in full swing in Scotland, but you have to admit
that entertainmentcentreshaggers doesn't sound half as good as sheepshaggers.

Are you really from the Aberdeen area, szkotja?

Seanus

Talking about sheep... ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
28 Jul 2009 /  #83
He's from the Highlands of Scotland :)
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
28 Jul 2009 /  #84
so what is the plan?

snp.org/node/13782

what do you mean by that?

A recent example would be that the island of Lewis had its first scheduled Sunday ferry service two weeks ago.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437  
29 Jul 2009 /  #85
so you are talking about remote/isolated areas then. Interesting. The reason I am asking because I do have a friend who is already there, so I maybe able to give him some tips. As far as I know he is staying in Scottland and he loves it.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
29 Jul 2009 /  #86
As far as I know he is staying in Scottland and he loves it.

Glad to hear it.

so I maybe able to give him some tips.

If you need any advice just ask.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
1 Aug 2009 /  #87
I used to be against scotland being indepedent but i've changed my mind, lets just hope this idea spreads no further than scotland.
I heard talk once of germany offering people money for each child they had, that sounds a much better idea of boosting the population.
O sh*t that costs money, money that we could spend on trident and 2 super carriers so we can carry on acting out our dream of being a world power again.
Matowy - | 294  
1 Aug 2009 /  #88
I heard talk once of germany offering people money for each child they had, that sounds a much better idea of boosting the population.

Don't we pretty much have that already? You can get benefits for just about anything these days. A single teenage mother working a part-time job can easily pay all her bills and still have enough left over to pollute her lungs with an endless supply of fags and go out every weekend to get pissed. If anything, this country is rather soft.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
1 Aug 2009 /  #89
The problem is it only benefits people that are willing to live like animals or are seeking asylum, my wife and i just about manage to earn the national average for one person and the government sees it fit to pay us £14 a week + child allowance (something that everyone gets) i dont see how thats a soft touch.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854  
1 Aug 2009 /  #90
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