Poles singled out as responsible for increase in knife culture

VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #1

A chief constable gave a stark public warning yesterday of 'immense' pressure placed on resources by the unprecedented influx of immigrants.

Julie Spence, who heads Cambridgeshire Police, took the highly unusual step of singling out Poles, Lithuanians and Iraqi Kurds who are carrying knives on the streets.

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Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #2

BS in Poland we don't have problems with knfes UK is famous form using this weapons on streets ...

noimmigration

4 Jun 2008 / #3

what are you talking about, knuckledragging poles can carry knives legally in poland. Is it a coincidence that knife crime has risen consistantly with levels of immigration.

If you dont want to live in a civilized country leave britian and go back to ex soviet poland

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #4

Did you read the article Lukasz or just immediately fall into denial mode?

The message is simple.

Whilst it might be legal to carry a knife in Poland it is NOT in the UK

Don't do it

I posted a list of teenagers stabbed and killed in London this year. There aren't many English names on the list and even fewer responsible for the stabbings.

Knife crime has increased dramatically in the UK recently. Poles are one of the three ethinic groups that a high ranking police officer has identified as being responsible for this increase.

The message is clear

DONT CARRY A KNIFE IN THE UK

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #5

In Poland we don't have problems with knifes ... If I were in UK I'd start to carry knife ... :) even I don't do it in Poland ... :)

To defend myself ...

read this article

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7421534.stm

According to the British Crime Survey (BCS), overall violent crime has decreased by 41% since a peak in 1995.

Ms McCluskey said: "Much of it is to do with bravado. Machismo is a huge issue up here and the lack of role models too. We often get knives being used by grandfathers, fathers and sons.

Criminologist Kevin Stenson, from Middlesex University's Crime and Conflict Research Centre, said the politicians needed to do more to address the problems of those aged under 16 and added: "They are the people who fear being attacked with knives, they carry them because they are scared and for respect. It is about macho status."

In the past few years politicians both north and south of the border have steadily increased the penalty for carrying knives, but Richard Garside said there was no evidence tougher sentences act as a deterrent.

it is your old problem ...

Wroclaw 44 | 5359

4 Jun 2008 / #6

If I were in UK I'd start to carry knife .

Not very wise. You could get four years, just for carrying one.

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #7

don't worry. As you know I am not going to move to UK. :)

I don't carry knife in Poland.

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #8

As you know I am not going to move to UK. :)

nah don't, theres hardly any room here now haha

only thugs and gang members carry knives

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #9

You're not actually very bright Lukasz, are you ?

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #10

ahh that's ok! :D

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #11

XXX

not thanx ...

you are not very bright Va...

I'd never post such info If I were British ...

Kinves are very well known problem in UK ... that is why your press write articles about it.

yes I know that you post all bad things about Poles but in this case :

"According to the British Crime Survey (BCS), overall violent crime has decreased by 41% since a peak in 1995."

"Ms McCluskey said: "Much of it is to do with bravado. Machismo is a huge issue up here and the lack of role models too. We often get knives being used by grandfathers, fathers and sons."

you have missed :)

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #12

not thanx ...

oh well, you missed out on a bargain ha ha. but really, you're not the brightest cookie, luv.

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #13

Kinves are very well known problem in UK

Yes Lukasz. Thats the point. Poles seem to be responsible.

PS. 'decreased' means to go down incase you hadn't realised

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #14

Poles seem to be responsible.

may i ask how? all the knife crimes i hear about are the ones comitted by them gang members and drug addicts, who are mostly black guys anyway. like all them stabbings in london. havent heard about any Poles stabbing someone in UK. heard about them being stabbed over here though...

Zgubiony 15 | 1274

4 Jun 2008 / #15

I knoiw someone who was attacked at a bus stop in Poznan by a teen with an axe :) Not a knife, but it's sharp.

okgirl66 3 | 88

4 Jun 2008 / #16

oh well, you missed out on a bargain ha ha. but really, you're not the brightest cookie, luv.

and you think it's clever to offer a 'blow job' ?! Sounds like a dumb blond suggestion. And in any case leave poor Lukasz alone - in fact why single out the Poles any way. If people carry knives then it is a really stupid thing to do (although I don't live in an area where I am in fear of my life) but I don't think it is because of some-one's nationality that they carry a knife.

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #17

Yes Lukasz. Thats the point. Poles seem to be responsible.

Ban on imitation Samurai swords

And at the beginning of December this year a Lincoln man was jailed after using a Samurai-style sword to murder a passer-by whom he thought had attempted to rape his wife

Vernon Coaker said: "In the wrong hands, samurai swords are dangerous weapons - there have been a number of high profile, serious incidents involving samurai swords in England and Wales

Thomas Roe: Jailed recently in Lincoln

(from previous article)

"Parents have a duty now to be asking their teenagers: 'Are you involved in this knife carrying?'"

yes Polish immigrants are under 16 ...

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #18

and you think it's clever to offer a 'blow job' ?! Sounds like a dumb blond suggestion

if you look closely, you'll se he fabricated it and i havent said that...

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #19

PS. 'decreased' means to go down incase you hadn't realised

... decreased ... after Polish immigration ... in 1995 there was peak ... :) you hadn't realised ...

Edited by: JustysiaS Today, 11:25

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #20

well lukasz, all your posts except ONE here have been edited, i'm sure all the male users are deeply disturbed by your explicit descriptions of what you're gonna do to them. but i guess you are a bit ashamed now so you deleted them all :)

another day, another fatal stabbing in London, comitted most probably by an English guy on a foreign schoolgirl

uk.news.yahoo/pressass/20080604/tuk-murdered-girl-s-family-seek-an swers-6323e80.html

Kennitz 5 | 32

4 Jun 2008 / #21

I just think it's just newpapers and TV reporting make it seem like there is a problem.

I live in the U.S in Atlanta where there is 400 murders per year (not including metro cities here) but everyday living is pretty nice. It'd be an intensely rare situation if you ever saw a gun fight (since most here use guns and not knives). Even in the rough sections...

So, not much of a point, but the statistics don't really make it seem as the Polish have severe problems, only haters and those who want a story.

I don't live there, but of the hudreds of stories and blogs I've read, no one ever sees this. Gangs are worldwide, so it's silliness to single this out.

osiol 55 | 3921

4 Jun 2008 / #22

UK is famous form using this weapons on streets

Really? Is that our claim to fame? Why did no-one inform me? I thought we were more famous for putting milk in our tea.

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #23

... decreased ... after Polish immigration ... in 1995 there was peak ... :) you hadn't realised ...

Of course I realise you muppet.

What you fail to realise is that efforts have been made over the last ten yers to reduce it. We don't want immigrants turning up and spoiling all the hard work. FFS

comitted most probably by an English guy on a foreign schoolgirl

No, Justysia. Probably committed by an immigrant as the statistics suggest.

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #24

Probably committed by an immigrant as the statistics suggest.

one way or another, he wasn't Polish...

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #25

Highly unlikely given the two met at an Eritrean church.

Lukasz 49 | 1746

4 Jun 2008 / #26

Of course I realise

wow

What you fail to realise is that efforts have been made over the last ten yers to reduce it. We don't want immigrants turning up and spoiling all the hard work. FFS

yes it is immigrant problems ... because as statistics show most of this accidents are commited by people under 16 years old ... (yobs)

JustysiaS 13 | 2235

4 Jun 2008 / #27

so he probably was Eritrean, hmm. unless the guy was just following her to the church, then he didnt have to be Eritrean...

osiol 55 | 3921

4 Jun 2008 / #28

Anyone who comes from a country where there aren't any psychotic, violent nutters, say "Aye!"

rafik 18 | 589

4 Jun 2008 / #29

everyone knows that this is the problem amongst blacks and asians.poles don't carry knives,they use fists.this policeman is an idiot.lots of albanians carry knives and they are very often referred to as eastern europeans which is very missleadind.tony blair said that the stabbings are the problem of ethnic minorities.damn it is shame that such a bright politician has gone.

vafankuloo.check names of victims and and all attackers and you will see that 99% of them are blacks or asians.

OP VaFunkoolo 6 | 654

4 Jun 2008 / #30

rafik. Check what I have actually written.