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Are the Poles in England hated?


IronsE11  2 | 441  
6 May 2008 /  #391
How about the fight over Berwick?

Or the West Lothian question?
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
6 May 2008 /  #392
Could be academic before 2010, now that Labour in Scotland support a referendum on Independence.
Todays news -bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7386258.stm
Seanus  15 | 19666  
6 May 2008 /  #393
Well, there's another one.
IronsE11  2 | 441  
6 May 2008 /  #394
Could be academic before 2010, now that Labour in Scotland support a referendum on Independence.

Bring it on. The less of Britain that London has to subsidze the better :)
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
7 May 2008 /  #395
Sean Connery ?

City of Discovery.

I'd say City of Dishcovery :)
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 May 2008 /  #396
That's city with an S and an H.

The less of Britain that London has to subsidze the better

London could quite happily exist on its own without the rest of the country to have to deal with.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 May 2008 /  #397
But The Treaty of Union was signed in 1707. Both sides have had multiple opportunities to rescind the treaty but the union remains intact. In all honesty, there would be few implications for Constitutional Law but the process of ostracising wouldn't be that hard. We have different legal systems after all.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
7 May 2008 /  #398
But The Treaty of Union was signed in 1707

Parcel of rogues etc

multiple opportunities to rescind the treaty

When ? - I can think of only two, 1715 and 1745.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 May 2008 /  #399
If the necessary collective will was there to bring about its retraction, it would be done. Parcel of rogues indeed
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
7 May 2008 /  #400
had multiple opportunities to rescind the treaty

Hmmm......

If the necessary collective will was there to bring about its retraction, it would be done

Yep, thats democracy - seems to be heading that way now. :-)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 May 2008 /  #401
Not so sure if it needs to be done but Salmond has been pushing this agenda for many a year.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
7 May 2008 /  #402
Indeed Salmond has, its the raison d'etre of the SNP.
The SNP have been in power for just over a year now, look at the accomplishments - stunning.
All political pundits from all sides admit they have played a blinder so far.
Bodes well for the Independence referendum in 2010.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
8 May 2008 /  #403
Sometimes u need to state the obvious :) Salmond speaks with conviction and is generating widespread support. He knows that he won't run out of steam
ElvisPresley  1 | 6  
9 May 2008 /  #404
most english are not of polish origin
17,000 poles came to england after the war compared to a population of 50 million thats nothing.
the biggest influx of poles in england came in the 1900's when 300,000 eastern european jews came to england,100,000 of them were polish.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
12 May 2008 /  #405
It was more like 170,000 Poles who remained in the UK after WW2, Although the total is 228,000.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West
Davidow  - | 6  
17 May 2008 /  #406
The Poles here in the UK are not GENERALLY hated - there are some individuals that hate anyone who isn't english - but they are few and far between.

But on the whole most people I know would welcome any of my Polish friends into their homes (and hearts in my case)
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
17 May 2008 /  #407
exactly, i have put it the same many times myself, there are people on here who just like to post 'well the english actually hate the polish' just to start something, what they are posting is utter rubbish.

Granted, there is a minority of people who are biggoted and don't like anybody who is foreigh, its not just Poles, after all the Polish are no more special than any other nationality in the world. In every nation around the world there are idiots who do not understand or are to ignorant to really understand how they themselves actually feel!!!!

I think in this case there is a bit of the old 'polish victim' going on and a few iditots who post biggoted texts. Pretty simple, maybe to much so but hay its about opinions :)
ozdan  8 | 67  
17 May 2008 /  #408
Come to Australia! Where brits are the annoying drunken fools with backpacks and poles are exotic mysterious people with an interesting accent. No one will force you to clean toilets and drive taxis here, that is for the Indian guy with the masters in computer science! Pay rates are good, the cost of living is lower than UK and the quality of life is excellent! The plane ticket will probably kill you though, expect to pay about 4500-6000zl
Deise 07  3 | 76  
17 May 2008 /  #409
Parcel of rogues etc

You might enjoy this Skotzja - Great version from Dublin's finest

youtube.com/watch?v=Lcm3MmD7uyc
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
18 May 2008 /  #410
The plane ticket will probably kill you though, expect to pay about 4500-6000zl

I think about moving down under, but I recently heard that Ozi people voted for commies in the latest elections :)
sunka  2 | 6  
18 May 2008 /  #411
iam a english guy,been in England,all my life,and to tell you the truth i get fed up when i see the way some english people act,they really need to grow up,and learn a few manners us well,ive met polski people in hull,were i live,they are hard working good people,and speak English very good,can you imagine English people talking polish us good us what polski people can talk English,lol no chance,were too lazy,think about it.....
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 May 2008 /  #412
can you imagine English people talking polish us good us what polski people can talk English,lol no chance,were too lazy,think about it.....

In fairness I think when you live in another country you ought to learn their language, not visa versa, I live in Poland, I therefore, take the responsibility of learning Polish. It is a bit unfair to to suggest English people should learn Polish. Although I understand your sentiment, English speakers (not just English people) generally are bad at learning foreign languages, I think, because today it is the main language and tomorrow, when it is Mandarin or Hindi I wonder will it be different?

iam a english guy,been in England,all my life

Really? I do not mean to be insulting but your English is not all that great.
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
18 May 2008 /  #413
Bartolome:
can you imagine English people talking polish us good us what polski people can talk English,lol no chance,were too lazy,think about it.....

I didn't say that :)
sunka  2 | 6  
18 May 2008 /  #414
i knew somebody would pick up on my English grammer,and my computer skills,lol,I was lazy at school,never to keen to learn,but ive worked with my hands all my life us a bricklayer,building houses,factory,shops,and even my own place,my hands are my tools,what have made me lots of money,and been able to let me have a great life,ive worked with Polski people,and made them lots of money,they are good hard working people,far better than alot of English people ive worked with.regards sunka.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 May 2008 /  #415
I didn't say that :)

Excuse me, I must have pressed the wrong quote button.

sunka.

Fair enough, I have spell check set up on this, I can't spell, thank goodness for it.

I have worked in different places in England and years ago I was referred to as a F!"king Paddy Bast"£$£ by some English people (now it is kinda fashionable to be Irish). I find that some Polish will have to go through that as well, as I see it the Poles are the new Irish, the main difference is that Polish people don't generally speak perfect English (ha ha, I am not saying that Irish people do either) , you gave us your language and we gave you back literature ;)

But there is no bad blood between Polish and English, so I am very interested about this topic.
sunka  2 | 6  
18 May 2008 /  #416
ok no problem,we could chat all day about this,and i have done with family in newry,northern Ireland,i have family,(republicans)who in past years helped the cause in your beutifill country,iam English,i go over Newry and spend time with my family and there friends,but yet I get stick off protesents people,who think just because iam english,and should not have cathlic family,iam very proud and love my famly in Northern Ireland,they been through so much,over the years,thaks thanks to the British Goverment.Irish and polski people allways welcome with me,there is good and bad every were,I just hope and prey,there more good,
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
18 May 2008 /  #417
there is good and bad every were,I just hope and prey,there more good,

I hope so too.
It is amazing how people project their narrow understanding on you. Who or what you are is almost immaterial.
I suppose categorising is a simple way to form order out of chaos.
IronsE11  2 | 441  
18 May 2008 /  #418
Come to Australia! Where brits are the annoying drunken fools with backpacks

I don't know where to begin...
osiol  55 | 3921  
18 May 2008 /  #419
How about something like this:

It's all part of a cultural exchange programme by which Australia gets drunken Brits with backpacks, and we get their drunks with backpacks. Is the bit about backpacks really important?
IronsE11  2 | 441  
18 May 2008 /  #420
Keeping Walkabouts in business since 1999.

The backpacks just make them easier to identify.

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