Why do Poles come to England?

Seanus
7 months left to 6 years lol...I checked I'm nearly 5 years and 5 months here fully legal

That was how the law was but I don't know if it still is.

Not sure without checking but if you apply you will become a British citizen (there are no Separate English,Scottish,Welsh passports yet and hopefully never will be) just tell everyone your English :-)

Seanus
Yes it is and it will remain until National Party will be in power, hopefully never will be!

workpermit.com/uk/naturalisation.htm

santander
hahaha.,..that's why they still use word 'expenses'

So you intend to hold dual nationality and carry two passports ?

I don't want to see anything "done" to you or your family now or in the future :-)


That's where we came in as it were. The UK is a cash-cow for all and sundry and those in power seem oblivious to the strain that resources are being put under.

Strange logic I know, but it's no wonder British people emmigrate ;-)

Yes I agree with some part of it but please deal first with your Arab brothers in milions here on temporary visas with getting everything. You will see how much it will improve in your economics then.

I thought anyone whose IQ dropped below 50 was automatically English. :p

You have come to join us then?

The Plan

Phase 1 : Join PF and lower my IQ.
Phase 2 : Become English.
Phase 3 : Claim all the benifits I can while living in Poland.

to explain - although I've been living in the UK for way over 10 years, I still hold Polish passport and I'm Polish citizen. It was laziness on my part not to sort out British passport earlier, but to be honest it didn't really matter that much.

So the refusal to treat me was even more ridiculous.

I know about the EHIC and other health forms but my most serious sickness is a heavy cold. It was an exception what happened last year and the attitude of the senior nurse and the doctor I saw really seriously pi$$ed me off.

I don't know a single Polish person who came to the UK and was once asked for the EHIC or anything like that when going to the A&E here. Stating that you are Polish national is sufficient for them.

That's why the system is crazy - works one way.

and slawek - the guys here are right. There's no 'English citizenship' only 'British' and British passport you will get, not English. English is a nationality/etnic group.

the only correct source of information is not workpermit website, but the former Home Office immigration section - currently UK Border Agency
ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/applying/applicationtypes/naturalisation

The big problem in the uk is asylum seekers (with the great sob story, the bigger the story the better, because basically the british are a set of mugs and love a sob story, just look at reality tv), and the illegal immigrants, who enter the country commit crimes and noone can track them.

Oh and of course if the illegal immigrant happens to be an asylum seeker, well bingo that person will receive every symphathetic vote going, even from that disgruntled taypayer who is paying for him.

I know that Home Office is the source but Work Permit is under Home Office regulations and the information is the same. I just gave some example of plenty information you can get on-line.

As I said before in the law meaning it doesn't change anything you're British or English except you were born in England or not. You have the same rights, passports ect.

What in England?

Unfortunately in some part of this I agree but there are many English whose commit crimes either. Worse many English uses drugs and too much alcohol. We don't use drugs in Poland as much as you can do it here. You can buy them like Pizza with delivery to your doors. I know many English law lovers but the other side of them they're just junkies using grams to snif it. Drinking alcohol in this country on every occasion it's only possible for fun lovin people every Saturday until the dawn, driving after that even worse killing other foreigners. Many info about that we can find in every day news.

Slawek076
Yes I suppose you are right, however, at least we know who they are and don't have several different names, like some cultures, no excuse for drink driving though. Noone can be responsible for a car under the influence, however much they feel they are.

Slawek076


In the light of you obtaining Brit-passport it doesn't matter, of course. But in the light of nationality and ethnic groups I think it does make a difference to indigenous people. :)

Slawek076

All about naturalisation process is said here.

ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/naturalisation

It's not only British Passport it's either British citizenship


I know, you're special, chosen one :)

you've lost me now
I've always thought British passort equals British citizenship...?

Its the government that allows them, if you asked the majority of people what they want then iam sure they would be more than happy to have the lot of them kicked out.

We see the damage that is being done and i suppose thats why the likes of the BNP have done so well in recent years because people think that a vote for the BNP or maybe UKIP is the only thing you can do.

In 2008, a spot check of Children's Allowance found a greater incidence of fraud amongst eastern euros. The fraud amongst eastern euros was 13% of all claims compared to 1.5% among Irish citizens. So, one in eight of those children not resident in the state, in receipt of the benefit simply do not exist. Eastern europeans are 800% more likely to commit benefit fraud. I am sure there are plenty of non existant Pawels and Agniezkas in the Uk too.

irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0721/1216565492868.html

As for the Pole stating that free movement of labour cannot be over ruled. Err, err. Wrong. It can be revoked, at a stroke of a pen in Brussels.

iv) safeguard clause (paragraph 7)

If an old Member State stops using national law measures and moves to free movement of workers under Community law, there is a possibility to re-impose restrictions if there are serious disturbances on the labour market, or the threat thereof. These "safeguard" clauses have always featured in accession Treaties, but have never been invoked. Therefore the Commission has no practical experience in their operation. However, it is clear that the Commission would expect a Member State to put forward convincing proof of a high level of disturbance on the labour market, in order to justify seeking to re-impose a restriction on free movement of workers, one of the four fundamental freedoms under the EC Treaty*. This same comment will apply to the use of the safeguard clause as between the new Member States (under paragraph 11).

We've already done it with the Bulgarians, we "imposed" restrictions, so as for "free" movement to all, its simply a matter of adjusting things and considering another goodness how many jobs are going at General Motors are going in the UK and Threshers and the rest who are going to the wall on a daily basis, its only a matter of time the government HAVE to do something with regards to immigration, not just from the new member states but all who want to come to my Island...When times are lean, you have to look after your own, its nothing personal, but I dont suppose foreigners understand this.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8343517.stm

business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article6904972.ece

The above are just articles from today, there are jobs going on a daily basis in the UK...

business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article3228324.ece

buyassociation.co.uk/money/news/general/recession-shuts-26-000-shops-14474.html

The above are last year.

The British would want probably ALL foreigners kicked out if they were totally honest. It does depend on your definition of foreign though. I would never class a British born Asian for example as foreign and many them have better family values than quite a few English people I know. I'd certainly rather keep them and sling out the chavs from the estates.


The foreigners I know would understand where you are coming from totally.

You're right about the UK needing to look after its own and that is something that we never seem to do anymore. It wouldn't matter so much if the those that benefit from our help were in any way grateful. Some most definitely are not grateful and I think it just gets taken for granted now.

The British and Irish youth have been abandoned by their respective political establishments during the elites quest for multiculturalism. Treason of the highest order.

do you know what i think about it? B... S... As I've told you before the Empire time is gone, no more slaves working for your wishes, no more better and worse class of citizens, no more and never again. I would like to see you how you survive alone without natural resources on your island, without empire states in africa, europe, north america as it was 200 years ago. You are getting weak because not of immigrants because of the fact you don't realize your position in nowodays world, how much important is to work together not just dream about old times when you had enough gold and other resources possessed from other world states. It's gone forever, the last act of it was losing Hong Kong.

Now it is time to move your ass to work hardly, not to consume only. Everybody wants to live on this planet not only you. That's what I think.

In some ways I agree with you, however, people can't just sit around blaming others and waiting to be rescued.

So what are you advocating, rioting or voting for a party that seems to stand up for the forgotten and abandoned. I believe you have already slated the bnp on here.


Add the working class to that as well.

They could join a party and stand as a candidate rather than start a riot. They could do a lot worse than writing to and generally being a thorn in the side of their local MP.

I wouldn't advocate voting BNP, definitely not, but UKIP seems a pretty sensible alternative to mainstream parties. It's who I voted for at the Euros and am even looking into joining them.


Politicians have abandoned pretty much everyone. These days you have to be able to afford to look after yourself and your own.

Very true mr h.


I have always admired the French in that respect, they are way more politically active. The Brits just sit and moan and then get on with it.

you are one deluded little boy. your poxy little country isnt that old for history. the only reason there is no empire, is that we have took what we want out them sh"t holes, then give them back in a much stronger position. then there f@@k it up again, i.e india and pakistan. yes we have resources, thats what made us great. sadly these times are over, but we will always have slaves. there come over in there thousands and keep wages down for everybody else. what these fools dont realise is that there are getting exploited. and when they shelf life has ran out, they will be cast aside for a life on the state, paid for by tax payers. i made the mistake my self, thought i could use cheap labour, but it has caused nothing but problems. but the big one is there just not very bright, it must be a genetic thing. no wonder they get walked over.

There have been always, there are and there will be 'better and worse class of citizens'.
UK or Poland - doesn't matter. It's everywhere.
And quite funny actually, the above statement coming from you. I thought that we got rid of marxism in 1989 beacuse it didnt work.

laddy -whatever you say.
The only angry about immigration people with arguments like yours are the working class masses and readers of the Sun and Daily Mail. You are probably at the end of the food chain in the royal Britain and taking out frustration on someone who's even lower than you.

Good on you mate. I admire people who know how to make themselves feel better.
lol