I recently came to some Irish forums ( particulary politics.ie ). What I have read is a bit astonished to me. I would appreciate some imput from a shamrock people.
ps RN , your views are already known so you dont need to post anything here :)
Me post was deleted. What exactly are you looking for here, Trotter? Irish views on Poland as a place to visit/live? Or Irish views on mass immigration from Poland or Polish people?
Well Poland is a very lovely country, Especially zakopane, Krakow is beauiful city, Kielce is a very nice little city, Lodz on the other hand is a very standard one, I've been to poland many times always had a wonderful time have come across a few Pr*cks there, like everywere, But I never really had much trouble from it, came very close once only the guy had 10-15 other guys standing behind him lol
Alot of polish people is very nice, In ireland all poles i have come across have nearly been all very friendly some are a bit weird,
I also have the most beauiful girlfriend who is polish so i have been away out of city areas and there is some very amazing countryside.
Well, I'm not Irish, but I've lived long enough in Ireland to be able to tell the Irish view on Poland. But I'm not really sure if you meant Poland as a country or Irish views on the Polish ppl? I guess I'll give both (as far as I hear from my Irish friends): most ppl I've met are fairly positive about Poland as a country and like to go there. However, it depends a bit on the person wether he/she likes it because of the landscapes or because of that it's so cheap over there (cheap in comparison to Ireland). One friend of mine said he and his wife went on a cycle-trip from Germany via Poland to the Baltic countries. He said that he had been approached the nicest in the Polish country side and that the landscapes were absolutely stunning, especially in Mazuria (do I spell that right?). The lakes there reminded him of Minnesota in the US (I took him there once), which also has a lot of lakes. Given his enthousiasm when he came back, I guess I have to go there some time. Other friends said they liked Zakopane, and Carpathian mountains. And others again said they were really impressed by the cities. As for myself, I've only been in Warsaw, Krakow and the obligatory Auschwitz (of course - had to see where my family perished). I must say that I wasn't really impressed by Warsaw (though the time we are talking about is early 90's - I'm sure things have changed since then), but Krakow was truly amazingly beautiful (funny, but somehow it reminded me of a German city) and Auschwitz, well, some ppl say that on some places on Earth you can feel the presence of evil and I used to laugh about that. But in Auschwitz you can actually feel the evil that has taken place there.
About Polish ppl, that's a bit different: most Irish like the Polish, mainly for two things: 1) Poles are Catholic too and like to drink, just like the Irish and 2) the huge amount of Polish ppl in Dublin brings with it the presence of Polish skleps, which finally gave the Irish the opportunity to sample a tast of European continental food. Then there is another side: Irish DON'T like the Polish because: 1) they tend to stick to themselves and except some exceptions, they don't really mingle with the locals; 2) especially in the beginning, they didn't like the Poles because they were willing to work for a lower pay than the Irish would get and now at this point in time, with the crisis and all, they complain that the Poles take away their jobs. Which is nonsense of course, Poles at first did the work the Irish didn't want to do and now there's no work left, they are willing to do those crappy jobs, but now they are taken already by Poles. For me personally, I don't mind the Poles being here, they don't threaten my job in any way and the presence of skleps came in handy as it gave me the opportunity to buy some foodstuff every now and then that reminds me of home.
Hope this was a bit what you were looking for? Thanks.
I'm Irish, living in Ireland. I've met lots of Poles here over the past few years. They're a seriously sound people and very welcome in my country.
I like the Polski Skleps too, as I once lived in continental Europe and got used to types of food that just weren't available here in Ireland until the advent of the Polski (and other Easten European) Skleps.
I've been looking for a job since 4 months. Firs I went to an interviu to big shop company in Dublin (Christmas job). I've been waiting form 10am to 10pm, to speak with recruiter. I've got this job. In the morning they call me back. Some nice woman said : "Sorry, today we've heard so many people...you don't have this job"
After month, I got job in some shop, near my house After 3 days,(there was cold really cold) I've asked boss if I could got a company jacket (I can't wear mine at the shop).
She told me : "yeh, all Polish are the same...alway cold, F***K Polish!"
How do you think? how I've felt then, how I feel now..
yena Hi yena, However this in not about the subject of the thread I would like to give you a bit of advise about your problem. Ireland suffer heavily from Credit Crunch and I am afraid this sort of behavior would only increase, if you intend to stay save as much you can don't spend your precious savings ( if you have any ) and prepare for moving back to Poland.
I know how you feel but we simple have to compete with indigenous populations and you have to understand this is not our home. Dream about moving freely around EU, getting job wherever you stay is finished, is dead. No such movements en masse again, not any more, it done enough damage to Poles and other countries where the went.
I came here not for "money", in Poland I've left good prospering family busines. If I want money I would stay there. I came here becouse of love. My partner has got a exelent job here,opportunity which gonna take him to high IT level. I decided to move here with him. Just to explore world, see how people live in other places. The same as IE or UK goes to Australia, for exp. But as I see you meet Poles who seeking for money, only.
This two example shows only how it's sometimes. I glad, I dont need to work for people who don't respect me as a person, as a human. Propobly I have better life conditions then them, here and in Poland. Life is to short to stand in the same point there are many to see. Lucky me, I was born I the time when We (from Eastern Europe) can travel wherever we want, and we don't need to ask for permission goverment.
Back to the topic:
There are many beautiful places in Poland, I'm from Tatra Mountains, if someone would like to visit it. Write to me I could help to find a cheap hotel, ect.
Juche Yes, and all of them - Poles, Romanians and Turks will flood UK and Ireland again. Wait a second Turks? here? oh yes Kebab shop at every corner. There are no Romanians as they prefer warm countries with similar culture like Italy or Spain. Only so called Romanians here are Roma ( Indian descent ) people. They must feel smell of their compatriots from India thats why they like it. I am not so sure about Poles coming over again in such scale.
Where are you from Juche? I bet you are smelly chav from somewhere between Scrabster and Dover
There are good one's and bad one's,very much like any other nation in the world,In Ireland,that is when i am on my island,i find that they want to work hard and get ahead,they do not ask for special or expect special privaleges,you may find that they are largely involved in cigeratte smuggling,but that is about it,but then again when you have a greedy goverment chasing taxes for their own purpose and to pay for a ever increasing benefit mentallity,what is to be expected.
