Polish people in an english army

Rules have changed. Members of all forces can apply to the SBS these days. In practice most of them still come from the Marines though.

i had heard of marines trying for the sas, but didn`t know you could go the other way. ta for that.

How old is he? 11?

Maybe you can get him an action man doll.....lots of fun and fantasy.....and nobody gets hurt....

It should be noted that a lot of positions in the army and navy in britian are open only to native born brits. This excludes even commonwealth citizens who have a british passport.

I am sure that the british special forces branches exclude entry to foreigners, even those with british passports.

one of the ill fated bravo two zero patrol was a kiwi and i`m sure of some fijians who fought in oman.

thats right...one Fiji guy killed in Oman , one injured....Take a look in St Marys churchyard in Hereford there are more than a few non English names there , and on the clock tower in the S.A.S HQ...

yeah i've heard of both canucks and kiwis in selection (don't know if they got in or not) so, i think aussie's have their own sas and i think I also heard about fijans too.

and there's one canadian guy i know of who signed up for the british military (can't remember but i think it was the royal marines)- go figure.

He served with the new zealand sas.

chris ryan (ex sas and bravo two zero) has a new program out called the worlds elite police. in one episode he trains with and then goes on a mission with B.O.A the elite polish police unit.

he says of all the units he filmed with they were the nearest to the sas training and operation wise. they also looked a mean set of guys who you wouldn`t want to mess with :-)

Nope....Trooper Laba served with 22 S.A.S...a British unit....

If he wants to apply for the SAS he will need to be in the army for 3 years and 3 months then he can apply, I would think that in this world climate he would definitely be deployed before then. I doubt he would pass selection into the SAS it is one arguably of the most difficult training regime in the world and fewer that 25% make it past the first week.

I'm sure he knows all this.

I would suggest if he is serious you re-evaluate your relationship because if he goes in the army and gets deployed you won't be seeing much of him at all.

If he did get in the SAS (i.e. passed selection and made it to Hereford) he would be a different person and you would see even less of him than if he was operational in the 'standard' British forces.

In a word - bollocks. Is there any subject at all that you are informed upon ?

late reply. Yes sas training is first rate. As for the " term" special forces, armies all
over the world have been using special forces, since the concept of war started.
to get back to the question?. What kind of life does she want?. Been in any kind
of relationship, is like been with the whole military, pains, laughs and all,real day to
day living, not easy. So she has to understand the future, with that life, or walk away.
How many relationships last in that world, not many. Look at the stats...

Hundreds of Polish people gave their lives fighting for the British during WW2, and we owe them a huge debt of gratitude for that fact! Would YOU fight for your own country, then go fight for another one? No, you would run away with your tail between your legs!

I think a good deal more than just hundreds.....The Poles fighting at Monte cassino in Italy had to be withdrawn from the battle because of the huge number of casualties , they did however take the position after other units had tried and failed to capture it....

But would a Polish citizen be able, in all conscience, to swear the Oath of Allegiance to The Queen? And what would happen if there was some sort of European conflict and he found himself having to bear arms against Poland?

No they did not, we declared war on germany because they invaded poland. We were fighting for the poles not the other way around.

Maybe, who fought for who matters not, the fact remains that the Polish were on "our" side in the fight against a fascist dictator, and heaven forbid anything like that should rear it's ugly head again, I am sure that the Polish would do the same again. My main point is in reply to the chap who said the Poles can't/won't fight is totally invalid! They can, and they did!

What get conqeured and surrender again ?

According to the army careers advisor I spoke to in Glasgow, a Polish person can join the army after gaining british citizenship. As long as long as you have this there should be no disrimination regarding your country of birth and which positions you are entitled to do. This is certainly what I was told when i enquired as to whether I would be allowed to join the British army.

Not quite correct. You apply yourself, you do have to have done at least 3 years tho'. Mind you, that doesn't apply for SAS TA units.

Why doesn't this lad try for Polish GROM and then see about trying to work alongside Brit units (might be more feasible)?


Funny, there are a number of Australian and NZ members of SAS (at least one of Bravo 2 Zero was antipodian).

Get him to go to a local Army Recruitment office.

They do have University Units which would be a good bet for him. A guy in my first year did it and would go away for weekends with them. Used to turn up at odd hours wearing his uniform!

The Paras' are a crazy bunch if he wants to see some action. Or the Marines'.

Failing that, the French Foreign Legion will take anyone, turn them into a killing machine, and send them into Hell! They are at least as bad ass as the SAS.

I know there are Fijians in the Army, as well as the Gurkhas' from Nepal.

These guys are mental!

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Danielle1,

Well I have to say that some of the best people in my Squadron are on the Polish section\team that we have, they are all British Citizens now, although Poles at Heart; I can not speak highly enough of our Polish cousins as my wife is Polish.

(Polish Women Rule!)

First Citizenship and then decide on:

OTC (Officer Training Corps) at University is good if your boyfriend is thinking about being an officer, there is the option for university to be paid for or a contribution made towards it, but you will have comitments to meet to repay the loan by serving a certain amount of time.

- This is excellent if you want to be an officer!

The comments are quite right that mention regular SF <Special Forces> units like the regiment (The SAS) require some service in the regular army before you can apply for selection; the SF <Special Forces> TA (Reserve Forces) will allow anyone to apply, this does mean that loads of wasters\dreamers apply for every selection process with absolutley no chance of getting in.

- If you want to apply directly then go TA SAS!

Failing a SF (Special Forces) unit selection does leave you with a sore memory that people have to live with, so I would suggest trying out with something slightly less demanding to see if he really likes it and if it is suited to him; he may be inclined for something less hardcore and wont now until he tries it, this will also allow a chance to build up to the requirements and knowledge that they will expect.

- If you want to avoid jumping in the deep end and trying to learn too many skills at once, try the gradual approach!

I would suggest that this is done via the TA or Regular Army by initially joining the Royal Corps of Signals and then once a trained soldier & traded with a professional skill\trade, he can then apply for a transfer to a Royal Signals unit that is attached to a SF (Special Forces) unit, then if he still likes it and wants to be solely SF, it would be straight forward to move across.

- I am suggesting the Royal Corps of Signals because a.) you can do this via Signals and b.) this happens to be my unit!

I hope this answers your questions; The best thing you can do is collect as much information as possible and then make your own mind up on what suits you best.

NOW:
For those of think the Polish are not good soldiers - look at Monte Cassino!

- If it was not for the Polish, we would be speaking French!
The British and the Polish have had long military links, for example Waterloo (The Polish saved Wellington from defeat by Napleon at the last minute - look it up and learn your history!), the Polish formed the first Tank Transporter Unit in the British Army and this is why this unit still toasts with Vodka and not Port and are excused toasting the Queen but instead toast absent friends.

Best of Luck!

Yes Kev121... some of us do know our History thank you....and if you knew yours you would know that the Polish were on the same side as the French during the Nepoleonic Wars you idiot!!...So i think we can take it the rest of your claims are false also?