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New British Based Points System


ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
20 Mar 2008 /  #1
I would just like to know if Polish people think that this would be a good idea for Poland to follow. It does not affect members of the EU also I wonder what affect this will have on the rest of members of the EU, these people will want to go somewhere...

bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/newpointslive
plk123 8 | 4,150  
20 Mar 2008 /  #2
washingtonpost/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/13/AR2008031304353.html

sieg heil

seems rather a big step back from the idea of "union." canada has one of these also and it seems to work for them just fine. however, i am not sure if it is a good idea in a supposedly open EU. i think the spot fines for hiring illegals is a great idea which would really solve the illegal immigration issue in the USA but i doubt it will ever be implemented in that way.

if this exact point system was implemented by all of EU members then that may work but i think this will lead to some diplomatic issues. we'll see.
postie 7 | 112  
20 Mar 2008 /  #3
Dubious link the PLK, as it's akin to the ancient laws we have in the UK, where I can, as an Englishman, kill a Scotsman in the city of York, after midnight, with a longbow....

..it seems to be one of those laws that are a hangover from the past.

BUT to get back to the main point. Yeah, I have no real disagreement with a points based system, as used in Australia. It keeps out undesirables and lets in those who would benefit this country. As those from EU states wouldn't be affected by that ruling as they have the right to travel and reside, then fair enough.

I've always said that Great Britain is "great" because we take the best...and leave what we don't want. Seems to follow that logic.
OP ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
20 Mar 2008 /  #4
postie

These are being introduced..so I have no idea about what you mean by dubious

as an Englishman, kill a Scotsman in the city of York, after midnight, with a longbow

Its Wales actually ;-)
Mali - | 300  
20 Mar 2008 /  #5
In Canada the points based system has its problems but overall it seems to be working okay. I think it would be a good idea for the EU to do this. A nation can only be so open.
Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #6
Is that you Shelly?I didn't recognise you without all the F's N S's?
plk123 8 | 4,150  
20 Mar 2008 /  #7
These are being introduced..so I have no idea about what you mean by dubious

i'm pretty sure this was in reference to the link i provided which to me is a paralell to the points system.

I've always said that Great Britain is "great" because we take the best...and leave what we don't want. Seems to follow that logic.

lol.. USA is great because everyone (almost) is welcome here.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
20 Mar 2008 /  #8
Its Wales actually ;-)

Nope,its a man born within the city walls of york can kill a scotsman after dark with a bow and arrow if the scotsman is found inside the city walls after dark,akshuly :)

USA is great because everyone (almost) is welcome here.

yes,also rather larger than the uk,what.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
20 Mar 2008 /  #9
Its Wales actually

I thought that was in Chester rather than York if Cymricide is your thing.
miranda  
20 Mar 2008 /  #10
In Canada the points based system has its problems but overall it seems to be working okay.

no, it doesn't. People who score high and are admited to Canada has to prove that they know the language, have some relatives and are educated. The reason for that is that they can enter work force and if they cannot for one reason or another there is a family memeber they can lean on, not teh Canadian government. So, teh point system is good for the country but not neccessary good for the immigrant.
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #11
I've loved this plan ever since they first mentioned it. No more Muslims! No more Africans. No more non-eu migrants apart from the highly skilled! Immigration will be reduced VASTLY.

Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera
What will be, will be!!!!!

Uncle Bob 2 | 82  
20 Mar 2008 /  #12
Got no idea who is cleaning the hospitals but they're not doing a very good job.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
20 Mar 2008 /  #13
no, it doesn't. People who score high and are admited to Canada has to prove that they know the language, have some relatives and are educated.

that's not true.. you don't have to have family to qualify for canadian immigration/work but it surely helps. the ca$h requirement is there for that. it also vastly helps to already have a job lined up.
djf 18 | 166  
20 Mar 2008 /  #14
namibia

Dont you go ruining Namibia with your 'dodgy' emigration ideas. Frankie Fredericks would have a nightmare.

You could try Columbia though. :-)
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
20 Mar 2008 /  #15
Again,admin,looks like the islamophobia is creaping back into your moderating....shamefull.arise st george gets to post vile rascism and lies and the counter is removed,shame on you.


Actually, the namecalling was removed, if you've a point to make, don't include namecalling in the post and it won't be removed.

actualy,admin,thats rather feeble of you,name calling,er,never heard of sticks and stones? Come on,you leave nasty rascist crap all over here and then wonder why people think poland is full of bigots..........

"Arise_St_George wrote:
No more Muslims! No more Africans. No more non-eu migrants apart from the highly skilled! Immigration will be reduced VASTLY. "

wot a total 'sillybilly'! Have you never been inside a Doctors surgery or a bloody Hospital??? 'nincompoop',go to any Hospital in the UK and I can guarentee you will find atleast 10 Dr Mohameds on the staff....its brain dead 'bottom' wipes like you that should be forced to sit a points test,if you fail we can deport you to namibia........ 'potential'losser.
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #16
wot a total 'sillybilly'! Have you never been inside a Doctors surgery or a bloody Hospital??? 'nincompoop',go to any Hospital in the UK and I can guarentee you will find atleast 10 Dr Mohameds on the staff....its brain dead 'bottom' wipes like you that should be forced to sit a points test,if you fail we can deport you to namibia........losser.

I already responded to this you 'Pushtt.' Nurses and doctors are HIGHLY SKILLED workers.

I don't need to sit any test. I'm British, I was born here. I automatically qualify as a British citizen.

Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera!!
plk123 8 | 4,150  
20 Mar 2008 /  #17
that's a shame asg as you sound like a baffoon who brits shouldn't be proud of.

I don't need to sit any test. I'm British, I was born here. I automatically qualify as a British citizen.

PolskaDoll 28 | 2,105  
20 Mar 2008 /  #18
There are many immigrants who would pass a "Britishness" test with a higher score than some Brits :/
_Sofi_  
20 Mar 2008 /  #19
Que Sera, Sera

Myself, three other Scottish people and a Latvian woman [in her own language] were singing this at work a few weeks ago. Was quite a surreal thing, I stopped when I saw the amount of attention we'd gathered..

that's a shame asg as you sound like a baffoon who brits shouldn't be proud of.

Many wouldn't. Some would behave the same. His opinion is similar to what I hear at work a lot. Thing is, many speak like him [in a two-faced manner of course] and do nor say nothing to those they speak of. Currently, they can simply be ignored.

A forum like this can make a good platform for those who like to express their opinions [but not too loudly...:) ]
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #20
that's a shame asg as you sound like a baffoon who brits shouldn't be proud of.

I don't ask anyone to have pride in me. Have pride in the country. Look after the country.

There are many immigrants who would pass a "Britishness" test with a higher score than some Brits :/

My uncle's wife who is Thai cannot gain British citizenship as she cannot pass the Britishness test.

Myself, three other Scottish people and a Latvian woman [in her own language] were singing this at work a few weeks ago. Was quite a surreal thing, I stopped when I saw the amount of attention we'd gathered..

Brilliant song, especially when sung in a crowd!

Many wouldn't. Some would behave the same. His opinion is similar to what I hear at work a lot. Thing is, many speak like him [in a two-faced manner of course] and do nor say nothing to those they speak of. Currently, they can simply be ignored.

I don't talk to them because I quite frankly don't like them. It's not two-faced. It's a refusal to associate with muslims and Africans. It's not the colour of the skin.. it's much more than that.
_Sofi_  
20 Mar 2008 /  #21
I don't talk to them because I quite frankly don't like them.

You know this before ever having entered conversation with any Muslims or people from Africa? Everyone is different...
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #22
I know alot of Anglo-Africans and muslims and I know exactly what they're like. There is a huge crime rate here with 'Anglo-Africans' and even the government has called upon the 'Anglo-African' community to sort themselves out (/politics/2007/apr/12/ukcrime.race). The majority have a lack of respect. They have the NWA. As for muslims their culture is incompatible with out culture and if they don't get their way you'll know about it. They feel superior to non-muslims. They don't integrate, they don't even care for the country! I'm against multi-culturalism.
_Sofi_  
20 Mar 2008 /  #23
I'm against multi-culturalism.

It sounds like it is people like yourself who

don't integrate

. My experience is completely different from yours of Muslims and Africans. I guess there would be no point in giving examples, you would not believe me [or simply point out you said 'mostly' -yet you are against all...] I could even say maybe one day you will have a nice encounter with someone who is Muslim or African, but it's not quite possible when you are predetermined against to the point of not speaking to them. I will leave you to your opinions.
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #24
I've met 2 decent muslims and about 3 decent Anglo Africans and that is NOT enough. That in no way helps the country. Isolated communities? Isolated ethnic groups? Increase in crime? Poltical correctness as to not offend them? Good riddance!
plk123 8 | 4,150  
20 Mar 2008 /  #25
I don't talk to them because I quite frankly don't like them. It's not two-faced. It's a refusal to associate with muslims and Africans. It's not the colour of the skin.. it's much more than that.

right, you're just a racis bigot.

The majority have a lack of respect. They have the NWA. As for muslims their culture is incompatible with out culture and if they don't get their way you'll know about it. They feel superior to non-muslims. They don't integrate, they don't even care for the country! I'm against multi-culturalism.

you have no respect either, it would seem. and you think you're superior to muslims and africans so you are a RACIST BIGOT, like i said. and maybe you also bring rudeness and whatever other issues you seen with 'them' all up on yourself because of your small mind a rude behaviour. hmmm
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
20 Mar 2008 /  #26
Very sad ,very sad,you are going to spend the rest of your,undoubtedly misserable little life all balled up with fear and hate.......its people such as yourself,lets face it,cowards,who give the rest of us a bad name. They say sh*t attracts sh*t,maybe thats been the problem in your case in your meetings with people of a different hue to you....BTW st george,your blessed patron saint never even set foot in this country,and if he did know you certainly wouldnt take a shine to his near eastern beehind now would you?
CoolMoon 1 | 60  
20 Mar 2008 /  #27
The points system would be a good idea for UK also for many other countries. I can't see how anyone thinks it would stop Asians/Africans etc entering the country.
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
20 Mar 2008 /  #28
you have no respect either, it would seem. and you think you're superior to muslims and africans so you are a RACIST BIGOT

Ha ha are there anymore words you would like to put in my mouth? I know a fair bit about Islam and I know alot about the mentality of muslims. As for the 'Anglo-Africans' just look at the friggin crime statistics! When striking a conversation with them they have this "don't mess with me" attitude. I'll give you an example of the way the majority of Anglo Africans are. New Orleans. Read it up.

I'm far from miserable and I don't/won't live in fear. Utter bull....As for St. George, was he black? Was he muslim?

The points system would be a good idea for UK also for many other countries.

It won't stop them but it will enable only the decent, intelligent migrants to come to work here rather than the dirt. Immigration will reduce by it's thousands. Even Pakistan is worried by this.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
21 Mar 2008 /  #29
When striking a conversation with them they have this "don't mess with me" attitude.

So would anyone talking to an obvious toss pot like you mate,like I say,crap attracts crap....

give you an example of the way the majority of Anglo Africans are. New Orleans. Read it up

dura....How many British were there in New Orleans? You really are a retard wrapped up in a teeny veil of normality....So,how is nasty glass eyed Nick? Doing well,tried to sleep with you yet?Ah well,keep up the hard work and Im sure you will come to his attention soon. Bet you cant wait can you,your fuhrers meaty hands all over your swastika boxer shorts...

No,he was a turkman or possibly a Kurd,so,like I say,not your cup of chai at all really eh Georgey boy?...
Arise_St_George 9 | 419  
21 Mar 2008 /  #30
So would anyone talking to an obvious toss pot like you mate,like I say,crap attracts crap....

No, many would disagree. You're just blind as a bat. Even the Tony Blair, the-THEN Prime minister of Great Britain admitted there are problems within the black community. Blair AND Brown has also admitted there are problems in the muslim communities. WAKE UP NUMBSKULL! Bloody hell, the liberals these days. They cause more harm than good.

dura....How many British were there in New Orleans?

Blacks are blacks. The majority of blacks have that tribe culture within their blood which goes back to Africa where they kill, rape and beat innocent men, women and children. Check the streets of London, Chicago, New Orleans, the Bronx and elsewhere in New York and you will see what I mean. Open your eyes.

You really are a retard wrapped up in a teeny veil of normality

Funny really, that's how I see you. You are in the minority with your views from the people I've spoken to. Only find people like you on the internet strangely enough.

Bet you cant wait can you,your fuhrers meaty hands all over your swastika boxer shorts...

I'm not a nazi, I like Jews. Why? Because the pose no threat to my country. Simple as.

No,he was a turkman or possibly a Kurd,so,like I say,not your cup of chai at all really eh Georgey boy?...

Turks aren't really muslims. They're secularists. They favour a ban on veils and headscarves. They're against an Islamic state and they are against Islamic values. They drink alcohol and have sex with strangers. That's not Islam. Therefore, I would assume he was secularist.

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