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National Holiday To Celebrate Britishness Could Be On It's Way


tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #61
Then it would technically become "English Day" so why introduce that when there's already St George's day?

not all scot's and welsh are so ignorant, or defiant about independence, some of them acutally like to be part of the UK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, there not all anti-uk, some are anti-england yes, thats what you call close quarter rivalry.

Why let the views of a few spoil it for the rest of the UK
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
14 Mar 2008 /  #62
not all scot's and welsh are so ignorant, or defiant about independence,

Whats ignorant or defiant about wanting Independance ?

anti-england

No, just don't want to be part of UK.

Why let the views of a few spoil it for the rest of the UK

The right of self determination ?

Latest polls show a majority for Independance in Scotland, if the people of Scotland want it they will vote for it in a referendum. If they don't want it, the status quo remains.
plk123  8 | 4119  
14 Mar 2008 /  #63
Arise_St_George

crappy food and beer for everyone! yay lol
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #64
Whats ignorant or defiant about wanting Independance ?

look at the reality of the situation if you did become independent, i mean how much money does scotland get given by the english government again??? :)

No, just don't want to be part of UK.

let me guess, anti-monarchy and a celtic fan at a guess :)

Latest polls show a majority for Independance in Scotland, if the people of Scotland want it they will vote for it in a referendum. If they don't want it, the status quo remains.

i believe that there should be a referendum on the subject, if scotland wants to be independent and the majority agree then i don't see a problem with it.
osiol  55 | 3921  
14 Mar 2008 /  #65
The right of self determination

When will I have self-determination? Am I just being greedy? Am I just being individualistic?
Scotland and Wales help to keep the balance of power between Labour and Tory. It looks like if Scotland and Wales waved goodbye, we'd be stuck with the Tories for perpetuity.

Go on Scotland, have a referedum. Then maybe I can have one too.
Liberation for Donkeyland!
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #66
not all scot's and welsh are so ignorant, or defiant about independence, some of them acutally like to be part of the UK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, there not all anti-uk, some are anti-england yes, thats what you call close quarter rivalry.

Hmm, I was merely point out a fact. Scotland could very well vote for Independance (my views on that are neither here nor there). I would imagine that if Wales was asked to vote on a so-called "British Day" they would vote against. Even people who are not "anti-UK" wouldn't necessarily vote for a "British Day".

What would a British Day involve anyway? Street parties and events where we celebrate hundreds of years of being "British"? No, it would mostly involve too much drinking and probably a sudden surge on attacks on foreigners (maybe a slight exaggeration, who knows).

Why let the views of a few spoil it for the rest of the UK

You haven't been in Scotland for a while then...
irishdeano  5 | 304  
14 Mar 2008 /  #67
scotland would do better out of the uk.if scotland do go independent they get most of the uks oil storage plus if u look at republic of ireland their richer than the Uk bring a united ireland first....
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
14 Mar 2008 /  #68
i mean how much money does Scotland get given by the English government again??? :)

English government ?
Scotland subsidizes the rest of the UK with its oil. UK government lied about the figures in the 70's as they were afraid that the true figure would encourage Independence. In the 80's it kept UK afloat and has done so since.

let me guess, anti-monarchy and a Celtic fan at a guess :)

Don't see the point in a monarchy, even a Stuart one. Caley fan.

Referendum coming hopefully in 2010
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7065783.stm
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #69
Referendum coming hopefully in 2010

And the first British Day would, apparently, happen two years later...
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #70
What would a British Day involve anyway? Street parties and events where we celebrate hundreds of years of being "British"? No, it would mostly involve too much drinking and probably a sudden surge on attacks on foreigners (maybe a slight exaggeration, who knows).

nice positive outlook there PD :) so nice to see that attitude towards a day which is supposed to bring everybody closer together and not pulling away :)

You haven't been in Scotland for a while then...

uuuhhh yes actually i have, not under good curcumstances but yes i have. Although my fatehrs relations live on one side of glasgow if you understand what i'm saying :)

Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK with its oil. UK government lied about the figures in the 70's as they were afraid that the true figure would encourage Independance. In the 80's it kept UK afloat and has done so since.

England can get the oil elsewhere, not like there isn't the big wide world out there or anything :)

as far as your claims of lies, i don't like getting into, he said she said situations so we'll leave it there :)

Don't see the point in a monarchy, een a Stuart one. Caley fan.

well to be honest i'm not a great fan of the monarchy but i'm not anti either, my goodness thats doubt on the monarchy and coming from a blue nose :) a few old firm games around the corner, let's hope they live up to the bill, they usually do!!!
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #71
so nice to see that attitude towards a day which is supposed to bring everybody closer together and not pulling away :)

You can imagine that's how it would be. Reality would suggest that it would most likely involve a bunch of boozy chavs falling about the place, insulting foreigners and saying "I feel British" or other such nonsense.

However, if Scotland did gain independance, would the term "Great Britain" cease to exist? Britain is, of course, an island in the United Kingdom and it's made up of Scotland, England and Wales. Technically, if such a day were to ever come to fruition, it should be called "UK Day"

Britain isn't a country.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #72
Britain isn't a country.

no its England supported by Scotland & Wales, that sentence there is the problem, its what Enlgish people sometimes think, therefore the scots and welsh want to prove they have bigger balls and say 'stuff the english we can do without them' and you get that circle of hate hate and more hate. I'm happy for scotland and wales to be independent of England, after all England will be find, I expect Scotland will be too, Wales however i'm not sure
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
14 Mar 2008 /  #73
as far as your claims of lies, i don't like getting into, he said she said situations so we'll leave it there

Under the Freedom of Infromation Act is was found that the UK government had lied.
It is a lie that England subsidises Scotland. Every person in Scotland pays a £700 subsidy to the UK.

England can get the oil elsewhere,

I am quite willing for an independant England to buy Scottish oil !

This whole British day has been dreamed up by Gordy Broon whose "coat is on a shoogley peg" down in Westminister. He has been trying to convince all the English of how British he is.

Remember when asked what his favorite goal was ?
Backing England in the football instead of Scotland ?
Poor Gordy.
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #74
no its England supported by Scotland & Wales

Strangely, I've never heard that.

This whole British day has been dreamed up by Gordy Broon whose "coat is on a shoogley peg" down in Westminister

That's true.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
14 Mar 2008 /  #75
Don't forget Norhtern Ireland.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #76
Strangely, I've never heard that.

strangley enough you never think anything i say is true, correct or even has purpose so i'm not suprised by that to be honest.

Anyway its not just those particular words, they can be mixed around a bit and replaced by other words, plus your in scotland are you not?? I'm in england write now where the English are :)
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #77
Actually, it's just a phrase I've never heard...

What has my location got to do with anything? Or do you assume it's because I am in Scotland that I don't want a "British Day"?
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #78
no no i mean you wouldn't hear many people say that in scotland would you :) i mean its mostly used in england. so in a sense your location has a lot to do with it :)
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
14 Mar 2008 /  #79
I don't see the point in a British Day because I don't think it would now serve any purpose. As I said before, it should have been introduced 60 years ago, then it would have meant something and probably would still now. It would have been celebrated properly but not now. It would only serve as an excuse (as I said before) for a boozy day off work (if you were to actually get the day off work).
irishdeano  5 | 304  
14 Mar 2008 /  #80
[quote=tornado2007] England can get the oil elsewhere, not like there isn't the big wide world out there or anything :)

well actually your wrong because there is not that much oil left in this "big wide world" everything to do with oil is up. filghts are up cause of it,petrol gas whatever there even testing bio fuel planes and another thing they think oil will be done in 15 years so dont think its just so easy to get.
_Sofi_  
14 Mar 2008 /  #81
I don't want independence.

Eek.
irishdeano  5 | 304  
14 Mar 2008 /  #82
i do want INDEPENDENCE make Northern IRELAND UNITED IRELAND WERE WE CAN WIN THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE WORLD CUP :P :P :D :D lol
osiol  55 | 3921  
14 Mar 2008 /  #83
Northern IRELAND

I say anyone else can have it because I certainly don't want it.

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